llinois to South Dakota trip

... Also we rode the 1880 train between Hill City and Keystone. Once again touristy, but we aren't against being tourists on vacation.

Anyways, the RV trip from IL to SD created a lot of lifetime memories for us and our kids. I'm glad we did it.

We also did the train ride between Keystone and Hill City. It was a fun thing to do.

If you need to be entertained, if you need to be visually stimulated, you might be bored. But if you want to enjoy the beauty of nature, see America (and maybe meet Abraham Lincoln - did that at Mt Rushmore and had my picture taken with him), you need to take this trip at least once.

And we met some other DVC members in Keystone in a diner. I had on my DVC hat and they asked if we were members. They were, too, and we talked a while about that.
 
East of Rapid City, on ! 90, there is a small town of Belvediere. They have a replica of an 1800's frontier town. It is a nice place with lots of room for a motor home to take a break. It also has a nice campground.

Word of warning here: We found the price of gas to be about 30 cents per gallon higher at this exit than almost anywhere else in SD when we were there in July. It's actually quite reasonable in Custer, right in the heart of things. Our trip report is here if you're interested, OP.

http://www.disboards.com/showpost.php?p=49097066&postcount=50

We did not make it into Wyoming on this trip, but Yellowstone is just fabulous. I've actually been twice (Mt Rushmore 4 times) and can't wait to go back!! I for one really enjoy the lonely highways through this part of the country just imagining all the millions of people (not just in the U.S.) who depend on the Heartland for food. And there's a real beauty to the stark landscape. :thumbsup2 Custer National Battlefield is worth a trip, and it is REALLY in the middle of nowhere. But, you get a real sense for what happened there, and Custer comes off even more foolish than the history books made him seem :lmao: The highway into the NE section of Yellowstone (Beartooth Pass) is breathtaking!

Back in SD, a word of warning about the Needles Highway, it is not RV friendly. In many places, it's only a lane wide, and it's a 2-way road. If you have a chance to do this by car, you should. It CAN be done in an RV, but it would be a real pain. It's not to be missed though. Definitely get the SD and WY travel guides, and for any other states you plan to pass through. You'll find all sorts of little hidden gems you wouldn't have known about otherwise. Also, not sure what part of IL you're in, but if you cross Missouri on US36, you will pass very near Walt Disney's boyhood home ;)
 
Great info everyone!
3boymthr, I'd love to see the pictures! We'll see if we can decide on a date and book campsites today.

We've never towed our van. Will we need to? Our motorhome is 29 feet and sleeps the 7 of us pretty comfortably! Other than having to unhook and hook up every day, it's been pretty easy getting around (I say as the passenger, not the driver.)

I look forward to reading your TR, Gumbo. Thanks!

So, never having made this trip, it's still not clear to me where we should be looking for campgrounds. Mt Rushmore and Yellowstone obviously. How many days at each. I've read just one at Mt Rushmore...will that allow us to see everything we need to in the surrounding area? I plan to have 2 weeks roundtrip for this trip (unless we don't need that much time, but we are pretty slow going with lots of stops for my little ones.)
 
You could spend a week at the Mr Rushmore area if you really wanted to. I think 2 days is enough to cover the basics. Yellowstone is a minimum of 3 days inside the park IMO (and another day or 2 outside the park) and I would move to a new spot each night. The park is more than 100 miles across at some points. So, it's not really convenient to park in 1 spot for the entire stay. A whitewater raft ride on the Snake River out of Jackson Hole is a blast. In June, the water will be high and VERY cold. It's still cold later in the Summer, but more tolerable.

You're heading to one of the most spectacular places on Earth. I'm jealous!
 

IIRC, the SD guidebook has a blown up map of the Mt Rushmore area showing all the attraction locations. There's also campground listings in the index.
 
We did this trip 14 years ago when DS was 5, so I think it's a GREAT trip to take with kids the ages of yours!

What he remembers most: doing the mammoth site junior excavators program, panning for gold, Reptile Gardens, and the Spam Museum (don't ask me :confused3).

What I enjoyed most: Crazy Horse, enjoying the peace and quiet of the campground and parks, feeding the donkeys at Custer State Park. It was lovely being able to cook a few of our own meals (although we ate out our fair share).

Your kids are going to love it, just pack clothes for ALL kinds of weather!

Terri
 
As my husband and I sat down to discuss our itinerary, we started wondering what the Yellowstone part of the trip will be like. We picture mostly hiking. With our little ones, I don't know how much time we should spend here.
Where should we camp and what should we do?

I appreciate all the help!
I'm sure once we've been there once, it won't seem so overwhelming, but for now it does!
 
As my husband and I sat down to discuss our itinerary, we started wondering what the Yellowstone part of the trip will be like. We picture mostly hiking. With our little ones, I don't know how much time we should spend here.
Where should we camp and what should we do?

I appreciate all the help!
I'm sure once we've been there once, it won't seem so overwhelming, but for not it does!

I think you will need campground reservations at Yellowstone.
 
As my husband and I sat down to discuss our itinerary, we started wondering what the Yellowstone part of the trip will be like. We picture mostly hiking. With our little ones, I don't know how much time we should spend here.
Where should we camp and what should we do?

I appreciate all the help!
I'm sure once we've been there once, it won't seem so overwhelming, but for now it does!

There are numerous hiking opportunities in Yellowstone from mild to wild. In my 20's, a friend and I backpacked 8 miles back into the back country to trout fish. But, there are much shorter hikes as well.

Honestly though, most people enjoy the park primarily from their cars. There is a lot of in & out at various attractions, but it's more driving than anything else. There is quite a bit of walking required to get to many of the main attractions that are a ways off the road. But, it's mostly on paved paths. So, hiking isn't really required, but the opportunities are boundless if that's your thing. Lots around Mt Rushmore too.
 
Hi Dr. Mom,

I would suggest you plan 4-6 days in the Black Hills (BH), 3-4 days of seeing the sights and 1-2 days to just relax. Would you consider renting a car for a few days while there? I would not want to drive a big long RV on some of those windy roads, although you could probably stick to main roads and see plenty too. If it were me, I'd park the RV at a campground and rent a smaller vehicle for 3+ days. Yes, it's an added expense, but maybe less so (and a lot less hassle) than towing your van along. It might be a gas savings too?

I live on the eastern side of SD. Grew up here, moved away and then we moved back to the area to raise our children. As a child, I spent many summers in Spearfish Canyon (northern hills between Lead & Deadwood) at my grandparent's cabin. The cabin is no longer in the family, but we've taken our kids to the Hills 3X in 10 years. Some years, they've chosen BH over WDW or DL. BH is a very relaxing vacation, in our opinions. It helps that it's only a 6 hour drive for us (though it takes much longer, with all the stops we like to make.) :goodvibes

The Corn Palace is in Mitchell. Nice stop along I-90. A good place to stretch your legs, have lunch or an ice cream. I think there is a KOA Campground near Mitchell too. There is a Walmart just south of the interstate and a Cabela's, among other stores, etc. The CP is in interior of the town (follow the signs) toward the north. True that the attraction of the CP is mostly on the outside and doesn't take long to see, but it is charming and I think your kids would enjoy seeing it. If they are working on the artistry, it is fun to see the different colors of corn they use in the artwork. The CP is on the town's main street, so there are several shops to walk to as well. There is a gift shop inside the CP, along with an auditorium and a gym. We've been to several basketball games, concerts and school musical competitions there.

Further west near the Missouri River are Chamberlain (east side), and Oacoma (west side). Be sure to stop at Al's Oasis for a buffalo burger and a slice of pie. It's been there forever (still owned by the same family, I believe). I don't think we've ever gone out to the Hills without stopping. There is also a gift shop and a grocery store, as well as a couple of gas stations near by. If you'd rather picnic, there is a scenic rest stop on the east side of the river, along the interstate.

Wall Drug - also a must-stop, IMO. Yes, it is kitschy, but that's part of the charm. As another poster mention, FABULOUS donuts, especially when they are still warm! Pretty great ice cream cones too. Creaky wood floors, trinkets of all kinds and vintage life-sized cowboy dioramas. When I was a kid, they were coin operated, but I think now they just play sporadically on their own. Most of them sing too! Fun to watch :goodvibes

I would allow at least a couple of hours at Wall Drug. Check out their website and see the map. The store is divided up into different zones. Some are outdoors and in different buildings. Along with just about every souvenir you could think of, there is a western wear store, fudge shop, book store, rock shop, and you can even pan for gold (building out back). Lots of great photo ops, including those cardboard cut-out things where you stick your head through the hole. Don't miss the Giant Jackalope! And, yes it is Wall DRUG store, complete with a working pharmacy. Their "FREE ICE WATER" line was the draw for people back in the 1930s to come off the main road and stop there. There is a drinking fountain/well out back. So, they do still have FREE ICE WATER, but we thought it tasted pretty awful. It was COLD though!

Badlands - yes, they are beautiful. But, it is worth the windy roads to drive all the way through it? Not so sure. Since you'll be driving an RV, I would suggest taking part of the loop and stopping off at the first overlook. Get out, let the kids run a bit and take some photos and go back the way you came. Yes, you'll miss some of the beauty, but you'll also save a whole lot of time and you'll still see some of it. JMHO. :)

I don't think you need to buy a guide book. There are plenty of websites and travel booklets you can get online/order. Go TravelSD.com, order a guide book and see what they have on the website. Also VisitSpearfish.com.

There is a Good Earth Natural Food Store in Spearfish that you might enjoy.

Places I've been that you may want to consider:

* Near Rapid City - Rushmore Waterslide, Black Hills Maze, Reptile Gardens, Bear Country
* Keystone - Presidential Alpine Slide, Taffy Shop (Watch them make it fresh!). Note on the Slide: you take a chairlift to the top and then have the option of sliding down or taking the chairlift back down. If you do this, be sure to get off the lift and walk around a bit before heading back down. Your kids would enjoy picking up mica. There is also a snack shack (burgers, etc) and a be sure to take a camera for the awesome views of Mount Rushmore - and wood cut-out photo op of Mt. Rushmore with a slot for a 5th face (your child). This attraction might not be appropriate for your youngest children, but your older children might love it (with one parent?)
* Deadwood - Adams Museum - my kids still remember the 2-headed cow!
* Spearfish Canyon - Bridal Veil Falls, gorgeous drives (but I might be biased ;)) I think there are a couple of fishing places too.
* Cosmos Mystery Area - not far from RC and Mt. Rushmore
* Crazy Horse - especially at night
* Mount Rushmore - be sure to take the walk up to the faces. You miss so much if you don't.

I don't know much about campgrounds as we've always stayed with relatives in their cabins or rented a cabin in the BH. FYI, Rim Rock Lodge in Spearfish Canyon has some charming cabins. Not much has changed in 40 years, so it's not fancy, but we like it. :)

I see that this has gotten extremely long. Sorry about that, but I hope you find some of it useful. PM me if you have any specific questions and I will try to help.

I've read some of your TRs and hope that you choose to do a TR on this trip as well! Have fun! :goodvibes
 
Badlands - yes, they are beautiful. But, it is worth the windy roads to drive all the way through it? Not so sure. Since you'll be driving an RV, I would suggest taking part of the loop and stopping off at the first overlook. Get out, let the kids run a bit and take some photos and go back the way you came. Yes, you'll miss some of the beauty, but you'll also save a whole lot of time and you'll still see some of it. JMHO. :)

I'm not sure I'd bother backtracking. Honestly, if you just drive and don't stop much, you can make the Badlands loop pretty quickly if you want to just pass through. And if you're enjoying it and want to stop a few times, all the more reason to stay on the loop. :) And unlike Iron Mtn Road/Needles Highway, the Badlands Loop is very RV friendly.
 
Not to hijack this thread but my dh has been wanting to take a trip like this for awhile. Any time we start to look into it I become overwhelmed trying to figure out a budget, I have no idea how to start. Any tips? We would be staying in hotels every night, no RV for us.
 
Trips like this are fairly easy to budget. I plan out a route with planned overnight stops. Then a quick web search will get you in the ballpark for hotel costs. Entertainment costs can be found if you get the free planning books and determine the paid attractions you want to do. Gas is easy to calculate, so you're left with food. And I use other past trips to get in the ballpark on food. :)
 
Get out and walk around in the Badlands. But do be vigilant and watch for snakes. I've never seen one there myself, but they are at home there.

I am originally from Rapid City and still take a couple trips home every year. We have fantastic restaurants and our grocery stores have the same thing every other store in the rest of the country has. I'm sorry the previous poster experienced such a lousy time, but I guarantee that is NOT the norm.

Definitely do the lighting ceremony at Mt. Rushmore. It's worth it for a second trip back in the evening. The rangers do a show and are often available for Q&A beforehand.
There's a walkway that you can take--it's worth it.
Sylvan Lake--rent a canoe or just hike for a bit.
Pigtail bridges in Custer State Park.
Have a buffalo burger at Slyvan Lake Lodge.
As you drive through Custer State Park, you may get lucky and see a herd of buffalo.
Avoid the first week or two of August unless you are an avid biker. The Sturgis rally is at that time and many, many, many bikes. Hotels and lodgings are crowded and expensive, too.
Spearfish Canyon--drive through. Find the waterfalls Worth it. Take a picnic and enjoy!
Storybook Island is in Rapid City--it's old, but it's free and the kids love it. Bring some stale bread to feed the ducks in the nearby creek. There are great picnic areas nearby, get some takeout and enjoy.
Dinosaur Park is in Rapid City, too. Free. You can see the largest statue from either side of town. Kids would have to walk or be carried.
Go online to the SD tourism website and they'll send all kinds of information.
 
I live in RC currently and wanted to add my two cents :)

With kids your ages I would make sure to try to see the following:

Storybook Island (free - on the west side of RC)
Dinosaur Park (free - in the middle of RC)

Bear Country - on the way to Mt Rushmore from RC. Not free but worth it IMO. The walk through at the end is fun - baby bears!

Reptile Gardens - also on the way to Mt Rushmore - really cool exhibits and fun shows. Could spend the better part of the day here if you wanted to.

Old Mcdonalds Farm - past Bear Country - fun for smaller kids

Cosmos - also off same highway. Really fun and interesting place to visit for older kids and adults.

As PP said - don't miss the evening lighting ceremony at Mt Rushmore. Very patriotic and awe inspiring IMO. Make sure to pack jeans and coats for the evenings. It does tend to get pretty cool in the hills at night. Also don't miss the taffy shop in Keystone. I actually just picked up a bunch of taffy yesterday to give out as part of my FE gifts on the DCL cruise we will be on next week:yay: Keystone is a bunch of gift shops but it is fun to walk around.

There are lots of hiking trails throughout the hills. Some are quite challenging and others are pretty easy and kid friendly. There are several tourist information places you can find that will have brochures and people to assist. I also have heard (no personal experience) that there are several nice campgrounds throughout the hills (Hill city and Custer areas) if you don't want to stay in Custer State Park. I do know the sites in Custer State park go really fast and usually need reservations.

If there is anything I can do to help, please feel free to ask. I think you will really enjoy your time here!
 
WOW! So many good suggestions! SO much to do! I might be more overwhelmed now than I was 2 days ago before I really started planning!

So far, we've worked to break up the driving into reasonable chunks. Starting out in the western suburbs of Chicago here is our plan so far (VERY likely to change as I continue to plan...)

Please suggest campgrounds, alternate stopping points that are close by if better than the ones we have chosen, roadside attractions, etc. We definitely want to have fun along the way and take this at a leisurely pace.

Day 1: Drive to Des Moines IA (5 hours not including stops)
Camp and rest

Day 2: Drive to Kearney NE (5 hours not including stops)
Camp and rest

Day 3: Drive to Rawlins WY (6 1/2 hour drive not including stops)
Camp and rest

Day 4: Drive to Yellowstone (6 1/2 hour drive not including stops)
Set up camp before dark


Now where should we camp at Yellowstone? There are a few choices for motorhomes. Being able to use our generator (during designated hours) is a must for us.

What do we NEED to see here and how long will it take?

I'm thinking just 2 or 3 days here because it looks like there is so much to do in the Mt Rushmore area. I know we want to see Old Faithful, at least one cool waterfall, and probably do the dinner where you ride horses or a wagon to get there. Not knowing exactly where these things are or what else we need to see, I don't know how to plan the camping.

Day 7ish: Drive to Bighorn National Forest (6 hrs not incl. stops)


Day 8ish: Drive to Deadwood/Rapid City/Mt Rushmore area (5-6+ hours not incl stops depending on where we camp)

Day 12: Drive to Sioux Falls S.D. (5 1/2 hrs not incl. stops)
Plan to stop at roadside attractions

Day 13: Drive to Warrens WI (5 1/2 hours not incl. stops)
Camp at Jellystone Park for 2 nights (to wind down and play at the water park)

Day 15: Drive home (4 hours not incl. stops)


Feel like we're getting somewhere, but still so much to plan! Thanks for the help!
 
I think you can make more progress on days 2 and 3. Its all Interstate until Rawlins, and there is essentially zero traffic to deal with West of Omaha and a 75 MPH speed limit. I'd want to be at least to Jackson Hole by the end of day 3. Be sure to set aside a day for Grand Tetons NP. :thumbsup2
 
I think you can make more progress on days 2 and 3. Its all Interstate until Rawlins, and there is essentially zero traffic to deal with West of Omaha and a 75 MPH speed limit. I'd want to be at least to Jackson Hole by the end of day 3. Be sure to set aside a day for Grand Tetons NP. :thumbsup2

Okay, I'll look at that. Although the max speed on our motorhome is 70 (just really won't go faster than that!) And even though we have a bathroom onboard, we make the kids stay buckled up and stop at restrooms along the way. (With 7 of us, that's always a long stop. Plus stopping to nurse the baby.

We took the motorhome to Florida last year and the trip home when we didn't have time to stop much was miserable.
 
I don't know anything about Yellowstone, but I do have something to add about Kearney, NE. We've been through there a few times on the way to New Mexico and the first surprise we found is that it is pronounced "Carnee". :)

The other surprise was the Great Platte River Road Archway Monument (www.archway.org). It is an arch that goes up over the interstate and inside is a museum about settlers moving out West. The website has some information, but there is better information in the reviews & photos on tripadvisor.com.
 





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