Little girl gets knocked out during parade

[bumbershoot]

.... her biggest "fault" was probably not making a bigger incident at the time. This should have been documented in case further incidents arose......this is patron/guest management 101.

I agree.

I do not see her getting up. I see her lying there, then it looks like she is being carried or cradled from how close the outfit is to the camera.

If that were my son he would be seeing our chiro twice a day for awhile, then every day for awhile. He would have multiple visits to our acupuncturist as well. He would be checked more than once for concussion and whiplash. And Disney would be paying for it. I would not have left the park or state until that was worked out.

That CM has no business dancing in such an environment if he can't keep his body parts to himself.

I recently fainted and hit myself in three different places on the way down. I was OUT. But only for a short time, very short. I said I was ok. DH believed me and didn't take me anywhere. I has pain and soreness for weeks and a very bad brain fog that lasted longer than the physical pain. I has a concussion absolutely but since I was concussed, i didn't realize it.

That girl is going to have effects from that event for a long time to come.

And that dancer needs to go back to a totally controlled and choreographed environment.

 

[cheer25mom]

And where does that info come from?

If they are making this kind of fuss over a black eye, which they got an appropiate apology for, then I cannot see what else they could hope to do by talking to multiple media outlets. They are defintiely looking for Disney to compensate them in some way over this. Now, IF the child was indeed more severly injured and required more medical attention and IF Disney refused to provide that I think she has a case, but I see no indication of that here. The little girl jumped right back up and mom kept filming.

 

[LSUfan4444]

lol she was hardly just "putting a vacation video of her daughter online". she has 1 video on youtube and joined on tuesday.

So, are you saying that how you word something can change perception even though what you are saying is factually correct?

If so, that's exactly what I said. Be careful, you might be agreeing with me without realizing it.

 

[cheer25mom]

That girl is going to have effects from that event for a long time to come.

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The is NO WAY anyone can determine that form the video footage we saw. I have taken similar falls and had NO ill effects at all beyond small bruises. Certianly nothing that requires mutiple chiropractic visits a day as well as accupuncture. How in the world can you begin to say you can determine all that from a video???

 

[smitch425]

You don't have to defend anything, but changing how you word something doesn't change what is..I can easily change the words to read like this:

There is a huge difference between sharing family photos here with complete strangers on the internet for the whole world to see on a daily basis versus putting a video of your child being being injured in an unfortunate accident.

It doesn't change the truth, just perception. You are criticizing a women for putting a vacation video of her daughter online when you have vacation pictures of your family online simply because you don't agree with what you think what her motives MIGHT be. Until you get the facts of what her motives are or actually know more details, it's being irrationally judgmental.

The only direct things I have said about the mother is that she exaggerated the situation (by stating she was knocked out when she wasn't) and that I didn't understand why she would put the video online if she wasn't wanting something to become of it. All other statements were just my opinion on the information that we know. Other people in this thread have talked about compensation and greed, not me. I don't know why you are so determined to prove that I am judgemental person, but you are barking up the wrong tree. Just because I have opinions doesn't mean I am being judgemental. And rewording my posts to suit your needs is creepy. I will no longer engage you in this conversation.

 

[LSUfan4444]

If they are making this kind of fuss over a black eye

What kind of fuss???? She put the video on youtube, then she was sought out and contacted by news stations.

I'd be shocked if she wasn't told by the news stations that their investigative reporters will help assure her Disney was "held responsible".

They are defintiely looking for Disney to compensate them in some way over this.

Oh, thats definite now. Well, as long as you say it's definite, then okay. who needs information and evidence.

As long as your intuition defines what is and isn't definite, we're all good.

Now, IF the child was indeed more severly injured and required more medical attention and IF Disney refused to provide that I think she has a case, but I see no indication of that here.

There is hardly an indication of anything....thats the entire point.

You, and many others are rushing to judgement without actually knowing what has happened to this point. All we know is she posted the video, was contacted by the news and hasn't heard from Disney....thats it.

 

[robinb]

This is exactly what happened with my ds and husband. The lap bar was face level and he was bending his arms to hold on. The cm let them through like that. Now let me tell you, my husband got a HUGE earful bc he should have said no way! And asked for separate seats. I was more furious with him than Disney.

In your husband's defense the ride attendants really do try to cram people into that ride. The last time I rode it (in December) I was with my DH, my DD and another teen girl. I wouldn't let one of the girls sit next to him and if I sat next to him I would have been squashed the whole time and we would need a crowbar to get us out . I had to insist that we have 2 cars and with much grumbling and eye rolling the CM complied.

 

[bwang123]

"this thread is about to get knocked the **** out." -smokey

 

[markman04]

So, are you saying that how you word something can change perception even though what you are saying is factually correct?

If so, that's exactly what I said. Be careful, you might be agreeing with me without realizing it.

Ok, professor.

she posted a video on youtube with a specific intention.

either u handle a situation when it happens and you're there or u move on.

 

[robinb]

If they are making this kind of fuss over a black eye, which they got an appropiate apology for, then I cannot see what else they could hope to do by talking to multiple media outlets. They are defintiely looking for Disney to compensate them in some way over this. Now, IF the child was indeed more severly injured and required more medical attention and IF Disney refused to provide that I think she has a case, but I see no indication of that here. The little girl jumped right back up and mom kept filming.

The is NO WAY anyone can determine that form the video footage we saw. I have taken similar falls and had NO ill effects at all beyond small bruises. Certianly nothing that requires mutiple chiropractic visits a day as well as accupuncture. How in the world can you begin to say you can determine all that from a video???

I don't know . Maybe the same way you see no indication of a serious injury?

 

[tbia]

Here are the questions I immediately have, and maybe I have missed it....

What was the date of the incident?

When did she call (or email, or contact) Disney the first time?

How did she phrase the situation? Did she send the video to Disney with first contact?


I would imagine she contacted a general person or email account. In a corporation of Disney's size, they are getting thousands of contacts a day. Being screened by a low man on the totem pole, who has to decide what to send further up the chain.

All in all, depending on the verbage of the email, it may not have been processed yet, OR it may have been sent higher up and is under review.

Believe me, Disney is going to pull THEIR videos and do all diligence before just immediately responding to this type of email.

Not to absolve Disney, but there may be more going on than the mother thinks.

 

[Donald Duck888]

I just watched the video and the news report attached to it and have a couple of thoughts I wanted to share. First I do not recall any talk of "monitary compinsation" from the mother nor do i think there should be any based on what i viewed.

Perhaps the part about "Disney doing more" meant that perhaps Disney should have had the little girl checked out medically at the time of the incident?

I know if my daughter was knocked down and hit her head I would want her checked out medically to be sure she was ok. Perhaps instead of going back to dancing the cast member should have gotten the girl to someone who could have directed the family to the first aid station and then things could be sorted from there.

I totally understand that accidents happen and do not believe in going to the next level with litigation and such but i really think Disney should have reacted a bit better after the event then they did.

Unfortunantly they seem to be doing less and less of that lately.

 

[LSUfan4444]

The only direct things I have said about the mother is that she exaggerated the situation (by stating she was knocked out when she wasn't) and that I didn't understand why she would put the video online if she wasn't wanting something to become of it. All other statements were just my opinion on the information that we know. Other people in this thread have talked about compensation and greed, not me. I don't know why you are so determined to prove that I am judgemental person, but you are barking up the wrong tree. Just because I have opinions doesn't mean I am being judgemental. And rewording my posts to suit your needs is creepy. I will no longer engage you in this conversation.

Maybe you won't respond, but you'll be back to read.

You criticized the mom for "making a spectacle" and putting the video of her child on the internet without knowing anything behind it.

Maybe she was sending it to her sister for advice on what to do and her sister's email is down.?.? If she is just doing it for attention, I agree, that's wrong. I am not arguing that your belief in that is wrong.

My point is that you rushed to judgement without knowing the details as to why the video was put on youtube. You just assumed it was for exploitation purposes with revengeful intent behind it.....and it very well might be.

You issue isn't that she put a family vacation on youtube. Your issue is that you think she did it with a cold heart, and that we just don't know from the video, the report and the comments.

 

[Mama Mouse]

In your husband's defense the ride attendants really do try to cram people into that ride. The last time I rode it (in December) I was with my DH, my DD and another teen girl. I wouldn't let one of the girls sit next to him and if I sat next to him I would have been squashed the whole time and we would need a crowbar to get us out . I had to insist that we have 2 cars and with much grumbling and eye rolling the CM complied.

That's what he said- they pulled up on the bar and said "it won't go up." Now my husband is a quiet guy and hates speaking up but I still think it was warranted here. And he feels terrible but yeah. They rushed him and dismisses them Nd sent them through like that which is why I made the report.

 

[cheer25mom]

What kind of fuss???? She put the video on youtube, then she was sought out and contacted by news stations.

I'd be shocked if she wasn't told by the news stations that their investigative reporters will help assure her Disney was "held responsible".



Oh, thats definite now. Well, as long as you say it's definite, then okay. who needs information and evidence.

As long as your intuition defines what is and isn't definite, we're all good.


There is hardly an indication of anything....thats the entire point.

You, and many others are rushing to judgement without actually knowing what has happened to this point. All we know is she posted the video, was contacted by the news and hasn't heard from Disney....thats it.

We know she took the meida up on thier offers to give a statement. She could have siad "I would rather not and rather you didn't broadcast this". Giving statements to multiple media outlets and alloing the video to be broadcast is IMO making a fuss and an indication that she it out to gain something. If it were my kid, I certianly wouldn't be talking to the media.

I don't know . Maybe the same way you see no indication of a serious injury?

Saying you DON'T see something is the complete opposite of saying you see exactly what happened and what the treatment should be. I DON'T see any indication of a serious injury. What I see leads me to BELIEVE she wasn't injured, but you simply cannot determine that from the video, as I said in that same PP. IF she was further injured Disney should make it right, but we cannot detemine that from this video. There is NO WAY she can decide what kind of long term care the child would or wuld not need when we didn't even see wether her head hit the ground or not.

 

[LSUfan4444]

Ok, professor.

she posted a video on youtube with a specific intention.

either u handle a situation when it happens and you're there or u move on.

And what evidence do you have that you know what intention is?

 

[LSUfan4444]

We know she took the meida up on thier offers to give a statement. She could have siad "I would rather not and rather you didn't broadcast this". Giving statements to multiple media outlets and alloing the video to be broadcast is IMO making a fuss and an indication that she it out to gain something. If it were my kid, I certianly wouldn't be talking to the media.

This is just a matter of an opinion difference. I don't believe posting a video on youtube or answering questions from a news station (if I feel I am being ignored by Disney) is making a fuss.

I think making a fuss would be sending it to news stations asking them to help bring attention to this. I think making a fuss would be a video news statement/press conference with her attorney present and her child with a black eye sitting by her side is making a fuss.

I don't think someone that didn't even have a youtube account could reasonably expect that posting one 45 second video on youtube could lead to being contacted by an news station in Florida.

If you think it was a passive aggressive plan to post the video, then wait to be contacted, I think you're way over thinking the issue. I honestly don't feel she made a big fuss, or gave it that much thought.

I think her biggest "faults" are for what she hasn't done, not what she did.

If she was out to gain something, don't you think a personal injury attorney would have been step #1....why post the video, hope it gets exposed then seek an attorney?

 

[Bean786]

I agree.

I do not see her getting up. I see her lying there, then it looks like she is being carried or cradled from how close the outfit is to the camera.

If that were my son he would be seeing our chiro twice a day for awhile, then every day for awhile. He would have multiple visits to our acupuncturist as well. He would be checked more than once for concussion and whiplash. And Disney would be paying for it. I would not have left the park or state until that was worked out.

That CM has no business dancing in such an environment if he can't keep his body parts to himself.

I recently fainted and hit myself in three different places on the way down. I was OUT. But only for a short time, very short. I said I was ok. DH believed me and didn't take me anywhere. I has pain and soreness for weeks and a very bad brain fog that lasted longer than the physical pain. I has a concussion absolutely but since I was concussed, i didn't realize it.

That girl is going to have effects from that event for a long time to come.

And that dancer needs to go back to a totally controlled and choreographed environment.

Gosh I hope ur joking.. DRAMA LLAMAz I'm sure your a pleasure to be around. Goodness

 

[cheer25mom]

And what evidence do you have that you know what intention is?

What other intent could she have had? She was never a youtue user before that and ashe chooses this for her ery first video. What could she have been trying to do other than call attention to it?? Can you come up with another plausible reason to post this video and no others? I can't. She is looking for attention. If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck.... You can argue semantics and fact versus opinion all day long, but its not going to change anything. No one can get inside herhead nad find out what her thought porcesses are so we have to make resonable assumptions based on int information we have. People use words like "defintiely" or "certianly" outside of their pure scientific or logical meaning. It's OK. The most resonable conclusion here is that she is looking for attention and/or compensation by placing this particular video on youtube and them cooperating with the media sensationalization.

 

[cheer25mom]

If she was out to gain something, don't you think a personal injury attorney would have been step #1....why post the video, hope it gets exposed then seek an attorney?

to get someone to take the case without her having to make a financial outlay immediately comes to mind.