Line Cutting

[monte4623]

I have a question. WHat is with the people on motorized scooters who are overweight and not actually handicap? They go right to the the front of the line? This appeared to be the case on our trip.

Someone with a real disability that prevents them from waiting in line by all means go ahead. Someone that is overweight or lazy is not disabled. They should have to park theyre scooter with strollers and stand in line like everyone else.

Otherwise I may as well rent a scooter for the day and bypass all lines.

 

[Disneymadhouse]

I have a question. WHat is with the people on motorized scooters who are overweight and not actually handicap? They go right to the the front of the line? This appeared to be the case on our trip.

Someone with a real disability that prevents them from waiting in line by all means go ahead. Someone that is overweight or lazy is not disabled. They should have to park theyre scooter with strollers and stand in line like everyone else.

Otherwise I may as well rent a scooter for the day and bypass all lines.

Oh dear I don't think you are going to be very popular around here if you post threads like this. I really hope that you are either joking and trying to be funny or are just having a down day.

I think the mods should close this thread before it offends anyone (further).

Claire

 

[Eeyore98]

And you have a superpower that lets you detect who is and is not "actually handicap[ped]"?

Also, newsflash - disabilities that limit one's mobility make it harder to exercise and easier to gain weight.

I guarantee you will enjoy your vacation more if you focus on your traveling companions and the fun you have planned rather than worrying about whether someone else does or does not have a "real disability".

 

[mrsksomeday]

You have no idea if the person on the ECV has a disability or not. They could have heart problems, cancer, lung issues, etc. They could have issues with their legs where standing is very painful. YOU DO NOT KNOW.

ECV's sometimes are moved to different entrances due to how the que is for the ride, that DOES NOT mean they went to the front of the line. Some ride vehicles can be slowed down for them or stopped so they can transfer.

One day you might end up needing a scooter and feel the judgement you pass over others.

My boyfriend has Cerebral Palsy, he uses a power wheelchair, he has limited use of his right arm and might "look" disabled to you. He would NEVER want you to pass judgement over anyone using a mobility device. They are hard to navigate through the parks, they are not easy to drive, and there are many times you wait longer than an able bodied person to get on an attraction.

How would you like to look at butts all day when you are trying drive through the parks.

How dare you post something like this. It is very UN-Disneylike.

 

[Buzz_gator]

i think this person is joking around not saying its funny though

 

[Avojeo]

We get one for my in-laws and my dad each time we go to Disney, mainly because the walking gets to them. No they are not disable but its hard on them to do all that walking for a week. We have tried multiple times to park the ECV and wait in line especially at Animal Kingdom and they won't let us. We have to take it in onto the ride. So please know that before passing judgment on people.

 

[LisaTC]

OP, if that's what you really think, fine...It's America, but just because you think something doesn't mean you must post it on a forum. You don't know anybody else's story anymore than I do. Who is to really say that morbid obesity isn't a disability anyway? Many people become this way from paralyzing depression, adrenal gland dysfunction, undiagnosed diabetes and a plethora of other reasons. Yes, some people are overweight because they eat too much, period, but morbid obesity is physiologically far more complicated that that. I was raised to be kind one to another, tender hearted, so I cannot relate to your comment in the least. I have compassion for those with any physical challenge. I'm sure they go throughout their daily life with disdainful looks from folks and just adds to their challenge. How hard must that be? Is this really the most helpful thing you can offer on the Disboards?

 

[PrincessAli]

My husband is thin and tall ,but has a fracture in his back that does not allow him to walk or stand for even a short period of time--he uses his own ECV. If you saw him in the parks, I'm sorry if you thought he was just using it to annoy you. As was mentioned before--many times, he has to wait longer to get on an attraction then if he was able to walk.

 

[WantToGoNow]

You don't know anything about these people and you sure don't have the right to judge them. Just because someone doesn't look "disabled" doesn't mean there's not an issue that prohibits the standing/walking that is done in Disney. I have a 27 y/o dd who looks perfectly fine - but tell her Cardiologist that. I was going to fill you in on her disability but then, it's not really your business.

 

[DisneyHead]

I recently messed my back up. I am actually contemplating using a wheelchair/scooter to get around parks. I cant walk very long before the pain makes me have to sit. I dont want to hold up my family. I yet feel guilty going to front of line because so many others have it worse than me. I dont want to ruin my families time by holding them up. Will probably load up on pain meds and walk it best I can though.

 

[JacksLilWench]

I recently messed my back up. I am actually contemplating using a wheelchair/scooter to get around parks. I cant walk very long before the pain makes me have to sit. I dont want to hold up my family. I yet feel guilty going to front of line because so many others have it worse than me. I dont want to ruin my families time by holding them up. Will probably load up on pain meds and walk it best I can though.

Posts like this are the only thing about ECV's and wheelchairs that bother me: the fact that people DON'T use them who feel they need to, because of fear of judgement from COMPLETE STRANGERS who have no business making a decision about you just by looking at you. It's insane. If you are so bothered by the fact that "people in wheelchairs ge to the front of the line", then rent one for a day and see how easy it is to get anything done in the parks. I don't use a wheelchair, nor does anyone in my family, but basic human dignity is a right, regardless of whether or not you can stand or walk for any length of time.

I'll get off my soapbox now

 

[mossy1]

Really in the grand scheme of things I don't mind waiting for people with disabilities to board the ride before me. I am just happy to be at Disney!! I will however say, there should be some area where training is provided for first timers on those things. I have personally witnessed people getting run over by inexperienced drivers. But just keep in mind Disney is for everyone to enjoy!! Have a good day everyone.

 

[maxiesmom]

I recently messed my back up. I am actually contemplating using a wheelchair/scooter to get around parks. I cant walk very long before the pain makes me have to sit. I dont want to hold up my family. I yet feel guilty going to front of line because so many others have it worse than me. I dont want to ruin my families time by holding them up. Will probably load up on pain meds and walk it best I can though.

If you need a scooter or wheelchair, USE IT! Don't let ignorant posts keep you from doing what you have to to be able to take your vacation without suffering. There is no front of the line pass, so you have nothing to feel guilty of in that regard. Don't worry about what a couple narrow-minded people who you don't even know think of you! Do what you need to to enjoy your trip with your family.

A few years back my sister threw her back out the day before our trip to WDW. We pushed her around in a wheelchair for the first 2 days. It wasn't fun, but it did let her enjoy the parks for those days when she just couldn't walk far. She was able to stand in short lines, so maybe that is what you could do. Use a wheelchair to get around and then try and stand in line. If it doesn't work, then use your chair in line too. Good luck and have a great vacation.

 

[TheTurners]

I don't think the OP completely deserves the slamming that's happening here. Everyone is making good points, especially that there is no way to know if the person is handicapped or not. But I think most of us can accept that there are people that choose to to use scooters for convenience. I have a friend that works for Walmart that says it happens all the time. He said it's like clockwork, these people usually end up at the in-store McDonald's when they're done shopping and it's like a scooter rally in there. The frustration that the OP is trying to express is that the rest of us have to dodge these scooters and play by the rules while they enjoy the benefits. I'd sacrifice any convenience to accommodate a handicapped person. I feel differently about those that are just along for the ride. But I agree, I can't definitively identify those people and I don't concentrate on it while on vacation. I'm there to have fun with my family.

 

[maxiesmom]

The frustration that the OP is trying to express is that the rest of us have to dodge these scooters and play by the rules while they enjoy the benefits. I'd sacrifice any convenience to accommodate a handicapped person. I feel differently about those that are just along for the ride. But I agree, I can't definitively identify those people and I don't concentrate on it while on vacation. I'm there to have fun with my family.

The thing is, there are NO BENEFITS to using scooters at the parks. Unless you think having to wait for a particular ride vehicle in order to enjoy Small World is a benefit. Unless you think having to deal with people cutting you off and expecting you to jump on the brake to avoid hitting them is a benefit. Unless you think staring at butts all day is a benefit. Unless you think not being able to hear the rest of your family's conversation (because they are talking above you) is a benefit. Unless you think having to wait multiple busses to get where you need to go is a benefit.

There are no benefits to using a scooter or wheelchair at WDW. And those who think there are should try it for just one day.

The OP's post was ignorant and judgemental, and they are lucky we are being as nice as we are about it.

 

[skater]

The thing is, there are NO BENEFITS to using scooters at the parks. Unless you think having to wait for a particular ride vehicle in order to enjoy Small World is a benefit. Unless you think having to deal with people cutting you off and expecting you to jump on the brake to avoid hitting them is a benefit. Unless you think staring at butts all day is a benefit. Unless you think not being able to hear the rest of your family's conversation (because they are talking above you) is a benefit. Unless you think having to wait multiple busses to get where you need to go is a benefit.

There are no benefits to using a scooter or wheelchair at WDW. And those who think there are should try it for just one day.

The OP's post was ignorant and judgemental, and they are lucky we are being as nice as we are about it.

This is true. My Mom has lots of pain in her knees and can barely walk around the resort let alone the park. She's also overweight, so I'm sure people think she's just lazy. She knows this and its embarrassing to her, but she has no choice. A few years ago she was on the bus with her scooter and had to use the bathroom. When the bus stopped, she flew off that bus and actually ran to the bathroom . (My Dad got the scooter off the bus). I'm sure there were tired, hot, grouchy people on that bus who were judging her and thinking she didn't really need that scooter. I don't think she could actually run today, but it does point out that there is no way to know what someone is feeling.

And like you said, its usually not a benefit. She sometimes has to wheel it through a maze to get through the line - I think TSM has a crazy system. Also with TSM, our whole family was held up waiting for the right vehicle. Most of the time, I feel that we wait longer for the rides - sometimes we'll park it in a certain area and she'll walk to the ride - its just not worth taking the scooter through some of those lines. Occasionally its a benefit at the shows and of course at the bus stop, we all get on first with her. But most of the time we all wish we didn't have to deal with it. Its also expensive - she doesn't have a lot of money, and she would rather spend it on souveniers.

 

[arielsleepingbeauty]

You do not go to the front of the line for every ride. My 10 year old niece has a heart condition. Last year she used a wheelchair because she was very weak, could not walk, stand or climb stairs for long distances. She could transfer and walk short distances so waiting in most lines was fine. We would all take turns holding her in line if we had to. For Splash Moutain there was no way that she could do all the walking so My sister and I used the wheelchair entrance with her while the rest of the family went in the stand by entrance. We waited about 45 minutes. There was no get to the front of the line.

 

[larryz]

I have a question. WHat is with the people on motorized scooters who are overweight and not actually handicap? They go right to the the front of the line? This appeared to be the case on our trip.

Someone with a real disability that prevents them from waiting in line by all means go ahead. Someone that is overweight or lazy is not disabled. They should have to park theyre scooter with strollers and stand in line like everyone else.

Otherwise I may as well rent a scooter for the day and bypass all lines.

It might be fun to watch if a moderator moved this thread over to the disABILITIES! board...

 

[DisneyFan32WI]

Come on people...DON'T FEED THE TROLL!

 

[DisneyHead]

Wench! Is that seriously what you got out of my thread? Seriously? Lol. If anything I was saying I could do without one. I can tough it out. WOW! Get a grip. Still a gigglin!