Line cutting

[The Sweetness]

I agree that it is only appropriate to have one person saving a spot in line for one person. That is a total of 2 people re-joining the line (emphasizing that the que allowed for those 2 people to get in line, and manage to get out of that line, which may not always be accessible). When it comes to grabbing a drink or ice pop etc... this is something we would do before lining up. The same goes for grabbing an FP. However, there is one point where I may have a different opinion. I do not expect a 2 year old to understand being still, quiet or patient, YET. These are important things to learn for sure, but not to be understood by the tender age of 2 (IMO). I would much rather allow 1 person rejoin their fam/ group, with their 2 y old sib or child, than to hear the screeching of an impatient 2y old for the duration of my que time. Thats just how I see it. I also think that if 2 people maintain our spot in line, me rejoining with my 2 y old will have no effect on someones wait time at Snow White, Buzz, etc. It is still 1 ride vehicle. Just a much more peacefull que IMO. I would much rather be inconvenienced by letting the little one and daddy etc back in with mommy and sis etc, and be spared the tyopical 2 y old impatient behavior.

 

[IMGONNABE40!]

My biggest pet peeve is when 1 person madly runs past me &/or others, getting in line just before I do, then waves his arms & shouts for his party to stand with him--inevitably, the rest of his party are just leisurely walking behind the rest of us--now that burns me.

Jean

This happened on my last trip. When the group behind me said "excuse me" I said I am not letting you ahead of us (me and my 7 year old nephew). The girl who was about 4 people ahead of me explained "it's alright, they're my brothers". I said that she almost ran into us while she was rushing for the line and that if she wanted to ride with her brothers, she would have to stand back with them. She stayed put for a while, but then slipped back in line with them under the guise of getting something out of a backpack.

 

[mickeyfan2]

I have a question though. DS16 and I are going again in March. Sometimes when a line is long one of us, usually DS, will go ahead and get in line and I will run around to get FP for the ride for later or sometimes I have a quick pitstop. Do y'all have a problem with this? I would hate to get back home and read about myself on these boards.

Get your FPs and use the restroom before either of you get in line.

 

[Race the Reaper]

This happened on my last trip. When the group behind me said "excuse me" I said I am not letting you ahead of us (me and my 7 year old nephew). The girl who was about 4 people ahead of me explained "it's alright, they're my brothers". I said that she almost ran into us while she was rushing for the line and that if she wanted to ride with her brothers, she would have to stand back with them. She stayed put for a while, but then slipped back in line with them under the guise of getting something out of a backpack.

How smooth.

 

[CowboyCO]

I have had the experience where we got in line at Haunted mansion (which was 40 minutes according to the sign. After being in the line for 5-10 minutes, DS(4) has to go pee. NOW. I grab DS(4), leave DW and DS(7) in line and duck out and hit the head. We're back in 5 minutes and got verbally accosted by several people who shouted that we were cutting. I explained that my son had to go potty and we need to re-join my family who were in sight. Everyone seemed to be OK with this explanation except...

One lady actually put her hands on my child and told him he had to go back to the end of the line. I politely and firmly told her to remove her hands from my son unless she wanted to draw back a bloody stub, that he had to go potty and we were returning to our family. The line was no longer than when she got in it. You can touch my kids if you are protecting them, but keep your hands off my young children.

In my book this isn't line cutting. Sending people ahead so you can shop, eat, finish another ride IS line cutting.

Flame me if you want but life happens and if I see a parent with a child who is trying to join another parent, I just assume they were handling "kid" stuff. Now, a group of kids, or a group of 3, 4 or more pushing up to catch up should just wait in line because that is cutting.

 

[Collette]

I don't really see any reason for line cutting. Make your plans for drinks, bathroom breaks, gathering your group, etc. then get in line. If I needed to leave the line for any reason, I wouldn't think of trying to get my place back. And I don't want to be labeled anything either. It's just good manners.

I've only experienced one incident of line cutting. We were in line for our CP package when about ten to twelve young adults came up beside us with beverages in hand and the first adult ducked under the rope. I questioned what was happening and she said, "Oh, it's okay. We're with them." And she pointed to the two women in front of us who confirmed that they were indeed with them. I said, "All of you???" Which was yes and I just shook my head and didn't move.

 

[sweetheart2576]

I just returned from disney last night and had a line cutting experience that made me and dh soooooo mad. We were in line for Jungle cruise (30 minute wait) and there was one lady all by herself directly in front of us. She didn't seem to have anyone else with her , I thought she was going the ride alone. Well we were in the last row of lines about to get on and low and behold 10. YES 10 of her family members cut right in. First it was only 2, so thought maybe bathroom break and, but then the other 8(only 2 kids) came in under the rope between me DH,DD,DS and myself. Cutting off me and my DS from the rest of the family, they tried to excuse themselves but my DH would not let them through, but they got with their family, when the 3 that were there 30 seconds earlier were about to step on the boat and were waving their family on. When the lady at the que asked how many in my party i said 4, but 2 are already on because the other family had one person inline and proceeded to let the rest of her 10 members on when we got to the last line adn broke up our family, the lady at the que said nothing. I was mad and should ahve said something more but felt it was Disney and it was not going to ruin my day.

 

[Devil_Dog99]

I will agree with the 'go on ahead I'll get the FP' approach - as long as when you join the line you don't have to pass a hundred different people (i.e. line is moving fast). And only one person. Any 'one person rushes to hold for 3 or 4 more' or 'one gets in line and at last minute the marching band joins' - no way. I believe that you are allowed a one minute grace period for one person to join their group in the line (FP, tieing shoe, etc.). Go past that and you had better have a good excuse.

 

[Devil_Dog99]

I have had the experience where we got in line at Haunted mansion (which was 40 minutes according to the sign. After being in the line for 5-10 minutes, DS(4) has to go pee. NOW. I grab DS(4), leave DW and DS(7) in line and duck out and hit the head. We're back in 5 minutes and got verbally accosted by several people who shouted that we were cutting. I explained that my son had to go potty and we need to re-join my family who were in sight. Everyone seemed to be OK with this explanation except...

One lady actually put her hands on my child and told him he had to go back to the end of the line. I politely and firmly told her to remove her hands from my son unless she wanted to draw back a bloody stub, that he had to go potty and we were returning to our family. The line was no longer than when she got in it. You can touch my kids if you are protecting them, but keep your hands off my young children.

In my book this isn't line cutting. Sending people ahead so you can shop, eat, finish another ride IS line cutting.

Flame me if you want but life happens and if I see a parent with a child who is trying to join another parent, I just assume they were handling "kid" stuff. Now, a group of kids, or a group of 3, 4 or more pushing up to catch up should just wait in line because that is cutting.

No flames here - OMG - she touched your child?? I am amazed you didn't haul off and hit her. I am totally with you on this one and I agree wholeheartedly.

I was going to quote sweetheart2576 - I would have said something. As I am getting older I am no longer standing for such rudeness and I will say something. Probably won't get me anywhere, but enough is enough. The gall of some people.

 

[kristenrice]

I agree that it is only appropriate to have one person saving a spot in line for one person. That is a total of 2 people re-joining the line (emphasizing that the que allowed for those 2 people to get in line, and manage to get out of that line, which may not always be accessible). When it comes to grabbing a drink or ice pop etc... this is something we would do before lining up. The same goes for grabbing an FP. However, there is one point where I may have a different opinion. I do not expect a 2 year old to understand being still, quiet or patient, YET. These are important things to learn for sure, but not to be understood by the tender age of 2 (IMO). I would much rather allow 1 person rejoin their fam/ group, with their 2 y old sib or child, than to hear the screeching of an impatient 2y old for the duration of my que time. Thats just how I see it. I also think that if 2 people maintain our spot in line, me rejoining with my 2 y old will have no effect on someones wait time at Snow White, Buzz, etc. It is still 1 ride vehicle. Just a much more peacefull que IMO. I would much rather be inconvenienced by letting the little one and daddy etc back in with mommy and sis etc, and be spared the tyopical 2 y old impatient behavior.

I completely agree! My 3 yo DD is a ball of energy (Papa calls her the "3 ft Tornado!) Although we are not going unti 2008, we are trying to prepare her for the idea of waiting in line. Unfortunately, other DD (currently 11 months) is still too young to understand. If she turns out anything like her sister, I think she will cause more grief to thiose waiting in line than she would if DH waited with her and joined big sis and myself when we neared the front of the line. Don't get me wrong, I do not advocate line-cutting in general, but sometimes you must pick the lesser of two evils. It comes down to what is more bothersome, a screaming, whining impatient 2 yo or dad and child bypassing the line to join mom?

 

[twinspluscade]

"Line cutting can most definitely be a pain in the you know what but it's funny that most of the guide books/tour guide websites that I have seen advise guests to line cut inorder to save time (fast pass runner) or to give a fussy toddler a break while mom or dad wait in line..... "

It's funny you should mention this! I also was wondering about that. The Unoffical Guide promotes the Hail Mary pass ("allows children and one adult to rest, snack, cool off or go potty while another adult stands in line. Other guests are understanding about this stragedy when used for young children")
and the Chuck Bubba relay ("Mom and Bubba enter waiting line, Dad gets specific number of people in front of him then gets in line; Mom hands Bubba to Dad to ride a second time"). The U/G seems to think both stragedies are fine.
Seriously, if I hadn't stumbled across Disboards and discovered that these techniques seem to really irk people, I would've thought it was fine. I wonder if a lot of people read the guides, and then do this because they think it is fine?

Kelly

 

[Dianewes]

One lady actually put her hands on my child and told him he had to go back to the end of the line. I politely and firmly told her to remove her hands from my son unless she wanted to draw back a bloody stub, that he had to go potty and we were returning to our family. The line was no longer than when she got in it. You can touch my kids if you are protecting them, but keep your hands off my young children.

YEAH!! I am glad you were, lets say "firm" with her ... that was not cutting it was taking care of business.... I NEVER let anyone in front of me that is cutting, I do not think your case is cutting, so you would have been fine however for those who try to cut me I have one motto, "You can take the girl out of Queens, NY , but can't take the Queens out of the girl" HA

 

[mytwotinks]

I agree with the general premise that line-cutting is highly annoying.

But what if it's young children doing the cutting? What if, say, one parent stands in line, only to be joined later by the other parent and two little kids? Any problem with that? The UG refers to this manuever as the "Hail-Mary Pass," and seems to advocate it, at least when small children are involved. Doesn't say how small.

I'm not sure what I think about it, and thought I'd see what others think.

I personally think it is kind of crummy. If I am standing in line with my little one's, I think it would be pretty nervy of you (not you personally! ) to cut in front of them. In my own personal opinion, if they are old enough to ride, they are old enough to wait. We all have to take it slower and see less when we travel with little ones. That's just life!

 

[mickeyfan2]

"Line cutting can most definitely be a pain in the you know what but it's funny that most of the guide books/tour guide websites that I have seen advise guests to line cut inorder to save time (fast pass runner) or to give a fussy toddler a break while mom or dad wait in line..... "

It's funny you should mention this! I also was wondering about that. The Unoffical Guide promotes the Hail Mary pass ("allows children and one adult to rest, snack, cool off or go potty while another adult stands in line. Other guests are understanding about this stragedy when used for young children")
and the Chuck Bubba relay ("Mom and Bubba enter waiting line, Dad gets specific number of people in front of him then gets in line; Mom hands Bubba to Dad to ride a second time"). The U/G seems to think both stragedies are fine.
Seriously, if I hadn't stumbled across Disboards and discovered that these techniques seem to really irk people, I would've thought it was fine. I wonder if a lot of people read the guides, and then do this because they think it is fine?

Kelly

I too believe thisis wrong. I also would hate to be the family member who has to stand in line by themselves. I am on a family vacation and want to BE with my family. Some people seem to think that he who rides the most rides wins! We are on vacation and not counting.

 

[Darian]

The courteous thing to do would be to get on line and then let those behind you pass until the rest of your party arrives. I have friends who try to get me to join them further up the line but I refuse. I believe they should just drop back until I can catch up with them.

Hi Karrit2000, I think you've come up with a very elegant and polite solution to a sticky problem. No one in their right minds is going to feel slighted by someone who encourages them to pass them in line!

 

[helenm29]

That lady is lucky you didn't CLOCK her one! I totally understand how it can be hot and tiring standing in line for what seems like hours while people are zooming in front of you from every direction! I have a relatively short fuse so if someone pops in front of me you can be darn sure I'm going to say something! My husband is much quieter and won't say anything so SOMEONE has to do the talking! I however do understand little kids having to use the restroom and even adults but they had better have been in line before I got behind them. When we get in line, we ALL get in line or we just wait it out! it's not fair to "hold places" for other members of your group. Helen

 

[CowboyCO]

I don't really see any reason for line cutting. Make your plans for drinks, bathroom breaks, gathering your group, etc. then get in line. If I needed to leave the line for any reason, I wouldn't think of trying to get my place back. And I don't want to be labeled anything either. It's just good manners.

I agree that people should plan as you suggest. As parents, we are frequently asking/prodding our young children, "Do you need to go potty?, etc".

If I were alone with one child and they need to leave the line to go to the bathroom, then we're out and will start over when we get back. If it's the four of us, and we are not very far into the line, then we will rejoin our party. If we had to dump out over half in, it's to big a hassle for everybody to try to catch up.

That being said, we are now fastpass pro's and it is now extremely rare for us to wait more than 10 minutes to get on a ride.

 

[Fitswimmer]

When my niece and nephew were 5 and 8 we took them on their first trip to the World. (15 yrs ago!) They wanted to ride Dumbo so we got in the LONG line. About 3/4 of the way through, my nephew said he had to go. I asked if he could wait and he said no, so all 3 of us got out of the line, went to the RR and then returned and got back at the end of the line. When the kids asked why we couldn't get back in line where we got out, I told them that would not be fair to everyone else. We got out of line, we lost our place, now we have to wait our turn again. I could have asked my parents who were sitting at a nearby bench to "hold the spot" or take nephew to the RR, but it really didn't occur to me. I suppose that makes me a sucker or something but to me the process is actually pretty simple. You want to ride? Get in line and wait your turn. If you want to use the rest room, buy a drink, get a FP or whatever, get out of line, do what you need to and then get back in at the end.

 

[ilovepooh]

I would much rather allow 1 person rejoin their fam/ group, with their 2 y old sib or child, than to hear the screeching of an impatient 2y old for the duration of my que time. Just a much more peacefull que IMO. I would much rather be inconvenienced by letting the little one and daddy etc back in with mommy and sis etc, and be spared the tyopical 2 y old impatient behavior.

I agree with this. ONE parent takes A child out of line while the REST of the party WAITS in line. I think this is fine!! I DON'T like when a group of people cuts in line!!! That is really rude no matter what your age!!

 

[Todd&Copper]

My biggest pet peeve is when 1 person madly runs past me &/or others, getting in line just before I do, then waves his arms & shouts for his party to stand with him--inevitably, the rest of his party are just leisurely walking behind the rest of us--now that burns me.

Jean

Some a$$es from NJ did this to DSis and I this past week, and then had the audacity to claim they did nothing wrong. The mom ran ahead (so far ahead that DSis and I had no idea she was even with anyone else) and got on line, and as we are snaking in the queue, I feel little hands on my bum, and a kid (age about 6 or 7) pushes past me to get with her. Then her husband and another kid (about 12?) show up behind us and sheepishly ask to get with the rest of them. I let them go but told them they were no better than the Brazilian tourist groups notorious for cutting and the mom snaps that they were "a family" as if that gives them some special privilege. I know if either DSis or I ran ahead of our parents, they would have told us to wait for them before entering the queue, but here was a mom behaving worse than a young child. I hope she got a heat rash or the trots.