Line cutting

[Disneyrsh]

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[Disney Crazy Family]

Whilel waiting in line for the bus at DTD for POP, several elderly persons had been waiting for over 20 minutes, I noticed several teenage girls standing to the right that werent there before. I knew they were going to cut the line so when the bus pulled up I stepped in front of them and waved the people that had been waiting to enter, while I stood in front of them they tried to sneak by but I was able to stick my arm out and tell them, these people have been waiting a long time, use your manners, then I entered, they were so mad that someone slowed them down. The look on there faces could kill. The bus driver said to me good for you.

 

[jmclester]

I agree that it is only appropriate to have one person saving a spot in line for one person. That is a total of 2 people re-joining the line (emphasizing that the que allowed for those 2 people to get in line, and manage to get out of that line, which may not always be accessible). When it comes to grabbing a drink or ice pop etc... this is something we would do before lining up. The same goes for grabbing an FP. However, there is one point where I may have a different opinion. I do not expect a 2 year old to understand being still, quiet or patient, YET. These are important things to learn for sure, but not to be understood by the tender age of 2 (IMO). I would much rather allow 1 person rejoin their fam/ group, with their 2 y old sib or child, than to hear the screeching of an impatient 2y old for the duration of my que time. Thats just how I see it. I also think that if 2 people maintain our spot in line, me rejoining with my 2 y old will have no effect on someones wait time at Snow White, Buzz, etc. It is still 1 ride vehicle. Just a much more peacefull que IMO. I would much rather be inconvenienced by letting the little one and daddy etc back in with mommy and sis etc, and be spared the tyopical 2 y old impatient behavior.

I could be wrong but I believe Markstudy meant that the one spot in line only belongs to the one person that is in it and all others are line cutters.

Don't flame me for this but........both of my children are grown now and we have spent hundreds of days at theme parks, etc. I have never removed either child from a line for acting up to the point of disturbing me or the ones
around us. Parents, grandparents, aunts and uncles ......you are the boss, not the child.

 

[jiminyC_fan]

I agree with the OP 100%! I always thought that it was just me that it drove crazy! Phew, I feel better now.

 

[mickeyfan2]

Am I allowed to line cut if I am carrying my pet fish?

 

[Tiffer]

I also hate line cutters but have not noticed it when we were there at WDW. I have noticed it at other amusement parks though.

I have a question though. DS16 and I are going again in March. Sometimes when a line is long one of us, usually DS, will go ahead and get in line and I will run around to get FP for the ride for later or sometimes I have a quick pitstop. Do y'all have a problem with this? I would hate to get back home and read about myself on these boards.

I don't mind this. If one person has to stopoff at the bathroom on the way to the line, or DD9 is in need of a water bottle and we have ADR's soon and are trying to sqeeze it in. I don't mind when a DH joins a DW and DC in line or vice versa. I don't consider that cutting.

I hate when a group of peole, that being more more than more than 1 adult and 1 child, I consider that a group, meet their party in line.

I guess, as a parent, I am just really lienient/forgiving when it comes to little ones.

Other than the above, I am the big mouth who speaks up and says something to line cutters. I get really angry with that.

 

[Tiffer]

I personally think it is kind of crummy. If I am standing in line with my little one's, I think it would be pretty nervy of you (not you personally! ) to cut in front of them. In my own personal opinion, if they are old enough to ride, they are old enough to wait. We all have to take it slower and see less when we travel with little ones. That's just life!

Sorry..TOTALLY disagree with you on that. As a parent, my entire existence revolvees around time managment and saving $$ to go to Disney. As such, I am going to try and see and do everything and if my Mom stands in line so I can bring DD9 to potty, she is not old enough to go it alone, or has been walking around in 90 degree heat all day and need a drink, I think it is completely acceptable.

And as a mother..you should be more understanding too...Just b/c your child is a trooper and can hang in there, not all little ones can. Remeber, their legs are half the size of our and have to take double the steps we do all day.

This is one of the ONLY scenerious I think this is acceptable and do not consider it cutting...see above post.

 

[Tiffer]

must say, I don't like the garden variety of line cutting.
My biggest pet peeve is when 1 person madly runs past me &/or others, getting in line just before I do, then waves his arms & shouts for his party to stand with him--inevitably, the rest of his party are just leisurely walking behind the rest of us--now that burns me.
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OMG!! I can't STAND THAT!!

 

[kaytieeldr]

If you want to use the rest room, buy a drink, get a FP or whatever, get out of line, do what you need to and then get back in at the end

Put yourself in my place. I generally visit WDW alone. I wait in line, and just before I reach the loading area, I get that Detrol LA condition. Now I've got to get out of line, and start over from the beginning. There's nobody for me to catch up WITH.

Sorry..TOTALLY disagree with you on that. As a parent, my entire existence revolvees around time managment and saving $$ to go to Disney. As such, I am going to try and see and do everything and if my Mom stands in line so I can bring DD9 to potty, she is not old enough to go it alone, or has been walking around in 90 degree heat all day and need a drink, I think it is completely acceptable.

I totally disagree with THIS. Take care of issues before ANYONE gets in line. Period. A nine year old generally isn't going to have the issues that a potty-training three year old is - she's not going to have to get out of line suddenly. Your entire party can easily wait until everybody's ready to ride before getting in line. Anything else IS line-cutting.

 

[mickeyfan2]

Sorry..TOTALLY disagree with you on that. As a parent, my entire existence revolvees around time managment and saving $$ to go to Disney. As such, I am going to try and see and do everything and if my Mom stands in line so I can bring DD9 to potty, she is not old enough to go it alone, or has been walking around in 90 degree heat all day and need a drink, I think it is completely acceptable.

So my time management and saving $$ for Disney is trumped by yours since you have a DD9 and I don't? This is line cutting.

 

[Cannot_Wait_4Disney]

I agree with the general premise that line-cutting is highly annoying.

But what if it's young children doing the cutting? What if, say, one parent stands in line, only to be joined later by the other parent and two little kids? Any problem with that? The UG refers to this manuever as the "Hail-Mary Pass," and seems to advocate it, at least when small children are involved. Doesn't say how small.

I'm not sure what I think about it, and thought I'd see what others think.

The UG method is this. One parent gets in line with kids. Other parent counts a set number of people, then gets in line. They will meat along the way where the exit comes near the line. Parent 1 then passes kids to parent two over the rail. The rational being it's ok to do this IF the amount of kids so passed along with the parent doesn't take up more than one ride vehicle.

 

[DisneyMommyMichelle]

Sorry..TOTALLY disagree with you on that. As a parent, my entire existence revolvees around time managment and saving $$ to go to Disney. As such, I am going to try and see and do everything and if my Mom stands in line so I can bring DD9 to potty, she is not old enough to go it alone, or has been walking around in 90 degree heat all day and need a drink, I think it is completely acceptable.

i have to completely disagree with this post. This IS line cutting.

 

[Cannot_Wait_4Disney]

I have a question though. DS16 and I are going again in March. Sometimes when a line is long one of us, usually DS, will go ahead and get in line and I will run around to get FP for the ride for later or sometimes I have a quick pitstop. Do y'all have a problem with this? I would hate to get back home and read about myself on these boards.

If you're in the line and the little one has to go wee wee, then it's acceptable to go back into the line where you came out imo. Tthere's a certain give and take. But if you know she has to go wee wee before hand, your party should wait for you to get back and then join the line. It's one thing when the old I have to go wee wee comes up and you've been waiting in line a half hour. It's another to plan to have to cut all along.

 

[mytwotinks]

Sorry..TOTALLY disagree with you on that. As a parent, my entire existence revolvees around time managment and saving $$ to go to Disney. As such, I am going to try and see and do everything and if my Mom stands in line so I can bring DD9 to potty, she is not old enough to go it alone, or has been walking around in 90 degree heat all day and need a drink, I think it is completely acceptable.

And as a mother..you should be more understanding too...Just b/c your child is a trooper and can hang in there, not all little ones can. Remeber, their legs are half the size of our and have to take double the steps we do all day.

This is one of the ONLY scenerious I think this is acceptable and do not consider it cutting...see above post.

So you are basically saying that you will cut when you need to, but that is the only time that it is acceptable. your cutting messes with my time management so don't try to get in front of me!

 

[pezheadmeg]

So my time management and saving $$ for Disney is trumped by yours since you have a DD9 and I don't? This is line cutting.

My worst line cutting expererience last year was before I even got on the flight. The woman in front of me on the SW line sat there with 15 pieces of carry-on luggage as her husband, kids, and mother wandered around the terminal. When the group was called to board guess who all magically appeared.

Adults traveling alone should not be treated like Second Class Citizens because there are kids around. We paid just as much for our tickets it's not fair to have Little Johnny, Grandma, Grandpa, Uncle Stan and Cousin It cut in front of anybody in line.

Yes I understand a potty emergency, but don't use that as a license.

 

[Tiffer]

Kaytieeldr who posted this..Put yourself in my place. I generally visit WDW alone. I wait in line, and just before I reach the loading area, I get that Detrol LA condition. Now I've got to get out of line, and start over from the beginning. There's nobody for me to catch up WITH.--

-I would hold your place for you if you needed to use the bathroom....

Sorry for those of you who disagree, but's that's the way I feel. And I hope you read my 3 consecutive posts, sorry for so many, BEFORE you disagreed..

I guess I am just more lienient, passive or pliable....however you want to characterize it...You can blast me all you want.....I just don't consider holding a place in line for ONE person who has to go to the bathroom or ONE person (and a kid) a big deal.

 

[Cannot_Wait_4Disney]

Sorry..TOTALLY disagree with you on that. As a parent, my entire existence revolvees around time managment and saving $$ to go to Disney. As such, I am going to try and see and do everything and if my Mom stands in line so I can bring DD9 to potty, she is not old enough to go it alone, or has been walking around in 90 degree heat all day and need a drink, I think it is completely acceptable.

And as a mother..you should be more understanding too...Just b/c your child is a trooper and can hang in there, not all little ones can. Remeber, their legs are half the size of our and have to take double the steps we do all day.

This is one of the ONLY scenerious I think this is acceptable and do not consider it cutting...see above post.

If you are talking about waiting in the line, then having an emergency where you have to take daughter out to pee, then coming back and rejoining the line, then I would agree. But if you send someone in, go play around or sit or do something else, planning to cut all along, then no, that's not right. Now if you're putting someone in the line, then passing the kid only over a rail and no extra ride vehicles will be taken up in doing so, well then that's ok too. But to just plan with knowledge beforehand, that you're going to take little one to the bathroom or get a drink, or play, then shove your way through the line, that is definitely cutting.

 

[karrit2000]

I agree with you DisneyMommyMichelle. No one should get in line until everyone in the party is ready to get in line. Taking a potty break on the way to an attraction does not entitle one or more to line cut because another member of the party gets on line.

 

[katytrott]

Adults traveling alone should not be treated like Second Class Citizens because there are kids around. We paid just as much for our tickets it's not fair to have Little Johnny, Grandma, Grandpa, Uncle Stan and Cousin It cut in front of anybody in line. [/font]

Yes I understand a potty emergency, but don't use that as a license.

Totally agree. I made an oath when I was pregnant, that as far as humanly possible, I was not going to ever believe or expect to get any better service because I would have a little one in tow. I like to think I have kept to this, even if it makes for a incredibly difficult time.

Us Brits are experts at queing. We don't stand for any nonesense, so much so, it doesn't often happen here (unless it is by someone from abroad - then woe betide them!). The three main theme parks we have here are run by the same organisation, and scattered numerous times along every queue route, is a big sign stating a list of what the organisation believes classes as queue jumping. It is a good idea, as there is no quibbling about whether what's been done is or isn't queue jumping. Don't know if it would work in Disney though as it might spoil the magic that only Disney can create.

 

[jjarman]

I have had the experience where we got in line at Haunted mansion (which was 40 minutes according to the sign. After being in the line for 5-10 minutes, DS(4) has to go pee. NOW. I grab DS(4), leave DW and DS(7) in line and duck out and hit the head. We're back in 5 minutes and got verbally accosted by several people who shouted that we were cutting. I explained that my son had to go potty and we need to re-join my family who were in sight. Everyone seemed to be OK with this explanation except...

One lady actually put her hands on my child and told him he had to go back to the end of the line. I politely and firmly told her to remove her hands from my son unless she wanted to draw back a bloody stub, that he had to go potty and we were returning to our family. The line was no longer than when she got in it. You can touch my kids if you are protecting them, but keep your hands off my young children.

In my book this isn't line cutting. Sending people ahead so you can shop, eat, finish another ride IS line cutting.

Flame me if you want but life happens and if I see a parent with a child who is trying to join another parent, I just assume they were handling "kid" stuff. Now, a group of kids, or a group of 3, 4 or more pushing up to catch up should just wait in line because that is cutting.

I love your response and I would have done the same thing. I can't believe people get so bent out of shape about letting a small child go to the bathroom. If you didn't then we would be reading about you on the "Most Shocking..." thread. I mean really. Letting a parent and a small child back through after a legitimate trip out of line is not going to get you onto a ride or attraction that much faster. I guess those that would object never bothered to bring a child to an amusement park or their children were the perfect ones with a bladder the size of a watermelon.