Line Cutting...is this rude???

[susy]

If you are there at opening, I don't see a need for this at all. Actually, since dumbo is slow-loading, your DH and DS will be long done with Pooh before you are off dumbo. Especially if you don't make it on to the first ride and have to wait. Pooh is pretty much a walk-on at opening. I know because we usually do Dumbo, then pooh.

On line jumping...

If it is a family and it won't mess up who sits with who and doesn't take an extra seat, who cares? If people get in line at the beginning or step in, it doesn't matter when they get in line, since it doesn't change what happens to me.

Example:
1.family of four getting in line. I am behind them.

2.one person gets in line and three later join them. I am behind them.
The result is that I am in the same place.

There can be no other outcome, since in both my scenarios everyone fully intended to ride from the beginning.


If someone is standing in line and some who did not intend to ride now decide to ride and join the one in line, this is clearly cutting.

 

[Slartibartfast]

...how does the "Chuck Bubba Relay" fit into this? Fot those of you who don't have the Unnofficial guide, this is how it works:

Mom gets in line for Dumbo with little Bubba. Dad let's exactly 24 people get in line before him, then he joins the line. When Mom and Bubba are done, she hands Bubba to Dad, who is next in line, and Bubba rides again! If Mom wishes, she can get 24 people behind Dad, and they can chuck Bubba again! If you know the correct count, you can use this method at any ride.

So, does this cause a riot in the line every time Bubba gets passed?

 

[baloo722]

It is NOT line cutting...for pete's sake people, you are on vacation. lighten up. if 30 seconds is going to ruin your day, then by all means, make the parent & child go back to the line. While your at it, make sure they don't pool hop or use last year's mug. Everyone needs to relax...you take the fun out of the place.

 

[beattyfamily]

Originally posted by Slartibartfast
...how does the "Chuck Bubba Relay" fit into this? Fot those of you who don't have the Unnofficial guide, this is how it works:

Mom gets in line for Dumbo with little Bubba. Dad let's exactly 24 people get in line before him, then he joins the line. When Mom and Bubba are done, she hands Bubba to Dad, who is next in line, and Bubba rides again! If Mom wishes, she can get 24 people behind Dad, and they can chuck Bubba again! If you know the correct count, you can use this method at any ride.

So, does this cause a riot in the line every time Bubba gets passed?

I actually saw a couple doing this with their only son on Dumbo. I remember telling my DH what they were doing...it didn't bother me in the least as they are both waiting in line and they are not going to take up any more space by passing off their young child...

 

[walt's assistant]

The Chuck Bubba relay is not line cutting. Actually, I found it very clever.


WA

 

[baloo722]

It is, in essence, the same thing.

 

[Eeyore2U]

Originally posted by baloo722
It is NOT line cutting...for pete's sake people, you are on vacation. lighten up. if 30 seconds is going to ruin your day, then by all means, make the parent & child go back to the line. While your at it, make sure they don't pool hop or use last year's mug. Everyone needs to relax...you take the fun out of the place.

Care to expound on your diatribe.

I don't see anyone getting upset. I see someone who asked for opinions getting oopinions, although not necessarily the desired one.

 

[princesstommi]

I think it is cutting.

Dad is basically holding their "place" in line.

What bothers me about this is...I don't think it's quite *fair* that you have a place in a standby line while you are still on another ride. I totally understand the bathroom, grandma standing, need a drink reason for joining your group. But to do it so you can ride two rides in the time it takes me to wait in the full line just to ride Pooh just rubs me the wrong way.

It bothers me more sitting here at home than it does when I'm actually in the park. No, I never say anything...but I would be annoyed for a moment were I behind you guys.

 

[diskids2]

Even though you elaborated on the situation, I still would not be happy if I found out that this was the reason people were getting in front of me. In our family we have plenty of circumstances when not every member wants to ride a ride or ride it at the exact same time. It's part of the deal. I always tell my kids it's part of family negotiation, lol.

I also agree that this is vacation and it is a time to relax and chill out, but it is everyone's vacation. Your vacation is not even one more second more important than mine. And my vacation is not even one more second more important than yours.

Also, I agree people were being very nice and politely stating opinions and that is what the original poster asked for.

Again, just my two (ok this time five) cents.

 

[baloo722]

"Care to expound on your diatribe."

it is not a diatribe. believe me. it is a hope to put things in perspective. If this is a person's biggest injustice during their vacation, I think that they've had a dream vacation.

 

[disneyjunkie]

I recall anyone getting nasty on this thread, maybe I missed something.

The OP if something is rude. Some of us think it is, others don't. Each group has stated why they feel the way they do without attacking anyone.

Oh, I don't pool hop and I plan to buy new mugs on our next trip.

 

[Eeyore2U]

Originally posted by baloo722
"Care to expound on your diatribe."

it is not a diatribe. believe me. it is a hope to put things in perspective. If this is a person's biggest injustice during their vacation, I think that they've had a dream vacation.

So what you're saying rudeness is acceptable since the person would be on vacation?

Originally posted by baloo722
It is NOT line cutting...for pete's sake people, you are on vacation. lighten up. if 30 seconds is going to ruin your day, then by all means, make the parent & child go back to the line. While your at it, make sure they don't pool hop or use last year's mug. Everyone needs to relax...you take the fun out of the place.

If I were going to read into the above quote I would say you have no regards for rules. Or does it add to the excitement of your vacation to break rules and get over on other people?

 

[Whitegloves]

If it's alright for one then it's alright for everybody. Imagine the chaos that could ensue if suddenly everyone in line was letting someone else join them. Personally, I think it's cutting. I also think, as someone mentioned, it's highly unlikely that you would be done on Dumbo before they are done on Pooh.
=0)

 

[Mom2Em]

Whether or not I agree, here is the way I think... If you have to question whether what you are doing is right or not, then don't do it... That's always been my way of handling situations such as these...

 

[Harambe]

I have only read the OP, and knew right off this would go the way of pool hopping, etc.

Sometimes you really can't say whether something is right or wrong. You'll get those folks who will graciously let you go by to your family - and those folks who will give you the evil eye for "cutting".

Go with your gut - and do what feels right to you!

 

[boardwalkbusker]

I think it is OK if the scenario is the one you gave. Kids get impatient and can't stay in line a lone time. It would bug me if a whole group of people came (kids or adults). That would be rude to me.

 

[waltskids]

We recently visited Cedar Point Amusement Park in Sandusky, Ohio and signs were posted at every ride that said if you save a place in line it is considered "cutting" and you could be asked to leave the park with no refund. We personally don't mind if they are going to the bathroom, although the signs indicated that you are not allowed to do this for any reason. They also mention other forms of cutting or saving spots. Apparently, this has become a problem there.

 

[kilee]

If I were in the OP's shoes-- We could all get FP for Pooh- since we want to go as a family. Then Myself and 1 child could ride Dumbo-- Dad and the other child can do Pooh through the stand by line. Then everyone meet up again and do Pooh as a family.

It does bother me when you have a lot of line holding going on. I mean, here you are in the 90+ heat thinking, okay-- 25 more people and we're on. Then families 3, 6 & 10 each let a few family memebers join them. It's just bothersome. I don't see the justificaiton in the fact that one child just doesn't like Dumbo. Well, there are plenty of rides that one member of my family doesn't like. It never crossed my mind to have that one person hold the rest of our places at another ride. I agree, that if you had to question the morality of it, then you knew it probably wasn't the best idea.

I can't tell you how many times on our last trip this happened, especially in the character lines. It is the situation where you have 1-2 people holding a spot and then at the last minute4 more children show up and each want a photograph and picture. I bet after this happening 2 or 3 times in a day, it gets really old. Especially if it meant your child possibly not seeing the character after waiting. It has happened.

In the end it is line cutting. If you were already in line and had to leave to use the bathroom. It is different, because you were already there. In this case, it is joining the line later in the game.

 

[peachgirl]

"Kids get impatient and can't stay in line a lone time."

If you have a child who "can't" stay in line a long time, don't put them in long lines or teach them to be more patient.

"Son is also not very good at waiting"

Funny, neither am I, but it doesn't justify breaking into lines. Sometimes I wish it did, but it doesn't. Again, either avoid rides with long lines, or teach your child the art of patience.

Back in the good old days when WDW actually staffed DisneyQuest, they had a CM at the Pirate ride whose only job was to put people at the end of the line or eject them from the line completely for doing exactly what the OP is suggesting.

According to this CM, there didn't seem to be a lot of wiggle room with what line cutting is...If you're in line and you leave, then attempt to re-enter it's line cutting. If you attempt to enter the line anywhere but at the end of the line, it's line cutting. It's against WDW policy and can get you ejected from the ride or the park entirely.

So yes, it's line cutting. I honestly don't see how there's any debate about it. I don't consider it a matter of rude or polite, just an example of a total lack of regard for other people. Line cutters somehow think that their time is more valuable than mine or that they have some incredibly unique circumstances that justify their behavior.

 

[undertheradar]

This is line cutting. There is nothing more frustrating than being in a 20 minute wait that keeps getting longer while others come at the last minute and join with them. Do this at the grocery and others will complain. Wonder how this would work if you asked the parking attendants to let other cars coming with you have the spaces near you. To really add insult, imagine waiting in line for the restroom at a crowded stadium or concert hall and having people who know each other go ahead of everyone else- thus skipping the line. It is no different waiting in line for Dumbo or anywhere else in life that lines are used.
The scenario that a child needs the restroom or someone needs to sit down is acceptable. I would be upset if a whole family needed to avoid the line this way.