letting newborns cry it out

[lillygator]

not loading for me?/

but really. if you have time to be on the pc you can't pick your kid up? my baby boy is 4 months old...he's never cried it out.

 

[Pigeon]

This is a terrible thing to do to an infant that young.

 

[Magic Mom]

if it saves a baby, busybody all day long.

We must have read a different blog. The baby in the blog I read doesn't need saving (well, maybe from the aunt.)

 

[AnnR]

I do not agree with this mother at all! It's not so much the closet, if she has a safe place in there to sleep in. Is she just sleeping on the floor? Hopefully she is in some kind of infant bed. Is there a monitor so that she is heard when she cries? But, letting a newborn cry for 20 minutes is wrong. At least sit in the room, put a hand on the back SOMETHING so she will form an attachment. This will actually give her more independence later on.

I am also concerned about the sleeping on the stomach. SIDS deaths dropped a very significant amount when babies were put on their backs. Being able to turn her head does not mean that she will not die from SIDS. What is she lying on? If it is anything other then a sheet fastened to something she could suffocate on it. I would never risk this with a child even if it is a small risk. A baby should be able to sleep on their back. Or, you can lift the baby up once she is asleep and put her on her back.

As far as putting her down before she falls asleep, I don't buy into the fact that it helps so she doesn't wake up in a "strange place" Yes, waking up on the kitchen table would be startling but waking up in bed after falling asleep on a couch would not be. Her bed should be a soothing familiar place.

Well, I am sure some will not agree with me, it is just my opinion.

The mother seems to love the baby especially when she is awake and happy. Otherwise she should be asleep.

 

[EveDallas]

We must have read a different blog. The baby in the blog I read doesn't need saving (well, maybe from the aunt.)

I agree. I'm thinking some people here are posting without even reading the blog.

 

[Sarah_Rose]

I read the blog.... and in general, I agree with pretty much everything she says about sleep training. But the part that she missed, is that nothing she talks about (sleep attachments, etc.) is relevant at all until an infant is 5-6 months old AT MINIMUM.

I've read every sleep book - from Sears to Ferber and everything in between. My son was waking up every 2 hours until he was 8 months old, and sometimes even after that. I needed all the help I could get. Every single book I read stated that until 12 weeks, you need to respond to your baby's cries. No CIO at that age..... at all. None. Do what you need to do to get your baby to sleep (nursing, holding, car seat, swing, sling, etc.) but there is no point crying it out at that age. Just none.

Anyway, CIO (more fussing, than real crying at that point) worked for our son. He needed to be left alone to de-stimulate, to be able to fall asleep. I couldn't even nurse him to sleep after about 6 months.... he just needed to chill out on his own. He finally started sleeping through the night (7 pm to 7 am) around 14 months.

So I have no problem with CIO and no problem with using a safe closet as a nice dark quiet place to sleep.... but this woman has totally missed a key part of sleep training.

 

[NYEmomma]

The only part I have a problem with is her attempting to sleep train (and using CIO as part of the training) at 8 weeks old. That's just too young... both IMO & from what I read when trying to get a handle on my daughter's horrible sleeping habits.

We used CIO as part of our sleep training with DD starting at 4 months old. We used the methods described in Dr. Weissbluth's book, Healthy Sleep Habits, Happy Babies. It was a pretty extensive, gradual approach that didn't start out with just putting her in her room, closing the door & not opening the door again until the morning but we DID let her CIO after we got to a certain point in the training. And I have nothing but good things to say about it. She went from being an awful sleeper & generally unhappy baby to having a great routine and being a happy child.

Even though I did CIO with DD, I'm not dead set on doing it with my next babies. I think every baby needs a different approach to parenting and sleep training (if they need "training" at all). If the twins don't need it or will respond better to other methods, then that's what I'll do.

Different strokes for different folks... different approaches for different babies.

 

[happygirl]

The only part I have a problem with is her attempting to sleep train (and using CIO as part of the training) at 8 weeks old. That's just too young... both IMO & from what I read when trying to get a handle on my daughter's horrible sleeping habits.

We used CIO as part of our sleep training with DD starting at 4 months old. We used the methods described in Dr. Weissbluth's book, Healthy Sleep Habits, Happy Babies. It was a pretty extensive, gradual approach that didn't start out with just putting her in her room, closing the door & not opening the door again until the morning but we DID let her CIO after we got to a certain point in the training. And I have nothing but good things to say about it. She went from being an awful sleeper & generally unhappy baby to having a great routine and being a happy child.

Even though I did CIO with DD, I'm not dead set on doing it with my next babies. I think every baby needs a different approach to parenting and sleep training (if they need "training" at all). If the twins don't need it or will respond better to other methods, then that's what I'll do.

Different strokes for different folks... different approaches for different babies.

This says it all.

 

[VAfamily1998]

So apparently, this is her closet.
http://themomuniform.blogspot.com/2011/03/closet-organizing-ninja.html

I'm kind of surprised that she's blogging all proud of how organized that is! It looks like a mess to me! Or are those the before pics?

 

[Sarah_Rose]

We used CIO as part of our sleep training with DD starting at 4 months old. We used the methods described in Dr. Weissbluth's book, Healthy Sleep Habits, Happy Babies. It was a pretty extensive, gradual approach that didn't start out with just putting her in her room, closing the door & not opening the door again until the morning but we DID let her CIO after we got to a certain point in the training. And I have nothing but good things to say about it. She went from being an awful sleeper & generally unhappy baby to having a great routine and being a happy child.

Love that book!

 

[surfergirl602]

I'm kind of surprised that she's blogging all proud of how organized that is! It looks like a mess to me! Or are those the before pics?

that's the after.

 

[FlightlessDuck]

This isn't new. When I had babies, I think it was called "Ferberizing" after Dr. so-and-so Furber.

 

[Sarah_Rose]

This isn't new. When I had babies, I think it was called "Ferberizing" after Dr. so-and-so Furber.

But if you actually read Dr Ferber's books, he does not recommend allowing an 8 week old to cry it out. He advocates beginning sleep training at 3-5 months. I believe (and someone will correct me if I'm wrong), that Ferber is the most "extreme" when it comes to CIO, and even he would not recommend what the blogger mom is describing.

 

[casndan]

That is REALLY disturbing to me! I practice attachment parenting so it's against everything I believe, but I don't necessarily think everyone needs to go the way I do but I REALLY think 8 weeks is way too young to cry it out. Poor baby

 

[FlightlessDuck]

But if you actually read Dr Ferber's books, he does not recommend allowing an 8 week old to cry it out.

OK. You caught me. I didn't actually read the blog post. No idea what age the baby was, or what age Ferber recommended to start CIO,

We never used the strategy, anyway.

 

[chloelovesdisney]

Even CIO sleep trainers say not to start till at least 16 weeks old, that is terrible.

 

[monkeybug]

That makes me sad! 8 weeks? Poor baby.

 

[HelenePA]

This blog post came up on facebook - has anyone else seen this? there are many different reactions but it seems the blog author is only approving those comments that agree with her, and deleting those that are speaking up. This woman puts her 8 week old in a closet to sleep, with the door shut and a fan running for white noise, and lets her cry it out all night long, so that the mother can sleep and not hear the baby. I find this really disturbing.

http://www.honeybearlane.com/2012/0...earLane+(Honeybear+Lane)&utm_content=FaceBook

Okay according to a comment she posted last night she is not letting the newborn cry it out all night, if I were to title this I'd probably title it crying herself to sleep. She says she picks her up in the middle of the night and feeds her as much as she wants after she falls asleep that first time...

 

[Alesia]

apparently (I'm still searching) there is a picture of the closet, and its small?

So? how much room does an infant need to sleep. Assuming that a bassinet fits in it and there is nothing in there that is harmful to the baby, there's absolutely nothing wrong with turning a closet (even a small one) into a nursery nook.

And... I just found this out after asking, the person that posted this blog on facebook is the sister in law of this woman, and she is really concerned for the welfare of the baby.

Or maybe she has an axe to grind. Anyone who will trash their own family on facebook isn't a reliable source.

I haven't read the blog but based on the discussion here, I think the Mom is clueless, at the very least. If her baby is colic he/she needs to be evaluated to see if they are allergic to the formula, or some other digestion issue. If she is breast feeding I would be very concerned for that baby. - JMO

I'm pretty sure that most of the posters here haven't read the blog either. The discussion here is not an accurate representation of what this mother said.

 

[NYEmomma]

Okay according to a comment she posted last night she is not letting the newborn cry it out all night, if I were to title this I'd probably title it crying herself to sleep. She says she picks her up in the middle of the night and feeds her as much as she wants after she falls asleep that first time...

But that's what CIO is... well, if you're following any of the published, advised techniques such as Ferber, Weissbluth, etc. There isn't anyone that advocates not attending to a child when he or she wakes in the middle of the night. CIO is used specifically for putting a child to sleep.