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Are you barred from having a picture of your significant other at your office and others are allowed to have them?

I own the place so Yes i put up whatever I choose. I also all employees do put up whatever. The only thing I ask is no pictures of their hunting....ummm finds.

The poster stated that hanging a flag tells the world you are gay and being gay at work is wrong. I was just wondering the difference.
 
Gays:

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Love Makes A Family
 
again, i live in the s.f. bay area, and homosexual sex is thrown around a lot here. the only difference between homosexuals and heterosexuals is the sex part, right?

You tell me darlin'.

What makes you heterosexual?
 
Yes, Master. Your opinion is pretty clear.

Fightin' for equal rights and equal protection under the law is "whining". I'll just call it "fightin'". :thumbsup2

So why not fight to have the existing laws enforced. What exactly do you expect to gain by passing new laws, when the exact same laws are currently ignored exactly?
 

I quoted the post I was responding to, it wasn't about civil rights it was about my personal opinion... Keep up.

If your opinion is that certain people should be denied their civil rights, it IS about civil rights, isn't it?


In the Declaration of Independence it declares that all men are created equal and they are endowed by their Creator with certain inalienable rights, among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. That’s what America is. No matter how hard you try, you cannot erase those words from the Declaration of Independence.

-Milk
 
again, i live in the s.f. bay area, and homosexual sex is thrown around a lot here. the only difference between homosexuals and heterosexuals is the sex part, right?


Not really unless y'all do somethin' really weird. ;)
 
I own the place so Yes i put up whatever I choose. I also all employees do put up whatever. The only thing I ask is no pictures of their hunting....ummm finds.

The poster stated that hanging a flag tells the world you are gay and being gay at work is wrong. I was just wondering the difference.


Ok Thanks.
 
If a gay person has a medical and legal POA, would they not be allowed to take family leave for that person?

actually, i'm not sure they can. i'm not sure anybody can get family leave by law based on being assigned POA. here we have grievance leave of four days, but i think it is up to the employer.
 
So why not fight to have the existing laws enforced. What exactly do you expect to gain by passing new laws, when the exact same laws are currently ignored exactly?

Under current legislation, is the LGBT community granted equality and equal protection?

Don't think too hard, Master. :flower3:

Not really unless y'all do somethin' really weird. ;)

:rotfl2: :rotfl: :lmao:
 
Be scared of them parades. ::yes::

:scared:

What makes you heterosexual? Is it "sex acts" alone? Is that how we get to define our sexuality in this country?

actually, the parades are a traffic mess...you simply cannot go to s.f. during parade weekend... and aside from considering a parade costume nothing but a briefcase (and i do mean NOTHING but), i don't care. have a parade.

the other question? i guess so...

Main Entry: 1het·ero·sex·u·al
Pronunciation: \ˌhe-tə-rō-ˈsek-sh(ə-)wəl, -ˈsek-shəl\
Function: adjective
Etymology: International Scientific Vocabulary
Date: 1892
1 a: of, relating to, or characterized by a tendency to direct sexual desire toward the opposite sex

Main Entry: 1ho·mo·sex·u·al
Pronunciation: \ˌhō-mə-ˈsek-sh(ə-)wəl, -ˈsek-shəl\
Function: adjective
Date: 1892
1 : of, relating to, or characterized by a tendency to direct sexual desire toward another of the same sex
 
So why not fight to have the existing laws enforced. What exactly do you expect to gain by passing new laws, when the exact same laws are currently ignored exactly?


I didn't know there were laws to give ALL people the right to get married (not married in a church sense - married in a "legal" sense). You know - so they can visit their partners in the hospital when they are sick and dying, so that they are eligible for the FMLA, so that they can be covered under health insurance policies, so that they can make important decisions with them legally.

I just don't get why this is even an ISSUE for anyone. If you don't believe in gay people getting married, then don't marry a gay person.

Live and let live.:confused3
 
If your opinion is that certain people should be denied their civil rights, it IS about civil rights, isn't it?

I have never once said that people should be denied their civil rights, perhaps you should go back and read what was being said.
 
and the difference between your opinion on gay discrimination and my opinion on gay discrimination is- I live it, you don't. It's called inequality.

i get it. you feel discrimination. other people do too, just based on other things.
 
actually, i'm not sure they can. i'm not sure anybody can get family leave by law based on being assigned POA. here we have grievance leave of four days, but i think it is up to the employer.

thanks. I didn't know how much influence a POA had. I know it will work as far as medical and legal decisions are concerned.
 
Under current legislation, is the LGBT community granted equality and equal protection?

Don't think too hard, Master. :flower3:



:rotfl2: :rotfl: :lmao:

Yes actually they are, they are exactly equal to everyone else. Should they be granted better access to various benifits yes, but that doesn't make the current status unequal.
 
SO why can straight people have pictures of their families? Is that not focusing on their heterosexuality and what their sexual acts created?

No. That is not what it is. Actually, I know a lot of people who are gay and who also have children -- and they have pictures of their families on their desks at work.

again, i live in the s.f. bay area, and homosexual sex is thrown around a lot here. the only difference between homosexuals and heterosexuals is the sex part, right?

Nope, I would define someone as homosexual if they would choose a person of the same sex as their life partner ie. that is who they would fall in love with. Sex is a bonus in a relationship, no matter what your orientation, and not something that is always possible.
 
I didn't know there were laws to give ALL people the right to get married (not married in a church sense - married in a "legal" sense). You know - so they can visit their partners in the hospital when they are sick and dying, so that they are eligible for the FMLA, so that they can be covered under health insurance policies, so that they can make important decisions with them legally.

I just don't get why this is even an ISSUE for anyone. If you don't believe in gay people getting married, then don't marry a gay person.

Live and let live.:confused3


All people currently have the exact same right to get married.
 
I have never once said that people should be denied their civil rights, perhaps you should go back and read what was being said.
Do you believe it is acceptable to fire people because of their sexual orientation? If you do, you are in favor of denying certain people their civil rights. Homophobia is anti-freedom and it is un-american.
 
Any law which criminalizes discrimination in employment on the basis of sexual orientation has two effects:

It requires that an employer consider each potential employee fairly on the basis of their ability to do the job, without regard to their sexual orientation, etc. -- a factor that that would generally have no significant bearing on the performance of their duties.
It interferes with the employers desire to discriminate against a specific group of individuals on the basis of their sexual orientation. Sometimes an employer's religious faith discrimination is based on bias that form part of their religious faith. This is not new.: Many religious groups in the 1960's taught that blacks were inferior and should be segregated from the rest of society on the basis of their race.
Many religious traditions to this day teach that women should be excluded from positions of authority and power on the base of their gender.
Many religious organizations refuse to hire a person of another religion, even to perform a non-religious task like sweeping the floor or sorting mail.

Thus many employers may feel that their religious freedom to discriminate is being taken away by the ENDA law.


It is impossible to protect one group's right to be considered fairly for jobs without interfering with another group's right to discriminate. Connie Mackey, vice president of government affairs with the Family Research Council, (a fundamentalist Christian organization) said in 2002-APR that the ENDA bill to criminalize discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation runs counter to the Bill of Rights. "ENDA will require Americans to hire people they believe to be committing immoral acts, precisely because they commit those acts. It violates employers' and employees' freedom of religion, of speech and association." 1

It is worth noting that much of the discussion on this bill is factually incorrect. For example, another fundamentalist Christian organization, Focus on the Family, reported that "Senators have renewed their push to grant special rights for homosexuals in the workplace." 1 In reality, the bill would give no more rights to persons with a homosexual orientation than it would to a person with a heterosexual or bisexual orientation. A heterosexual who was refused a job as a bartender in a gay bar on the basis of his sexual orientation could sue for damages just as a homosexual could sue if she or he were refused a manufacturing job making widgets in a factory on the basis of their sexual orientation. If gays and lesbians receive "special rights" as a result of this bill, then heterosexuals and bisexuals would receive those same "special rights."



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