Legal Question- PLEASE HELP

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Here's the situation-2 people working together. Man tells female that her tire is flat and he will pump it up for her. She goes out to look at it. It's low but not flat.She says her husband will take care of it. Husband had just driven the car and tire was NOT low. Husband pumps up tire that night and it doesn't leak down by next morning. Ok maybe someone messed with the tire. Ok the cameras at worked are watched. THERE IT IS! The male employee crouching down by the car at the tire for a period of time. What can be done legally? Is the company responsible for providing a safe place to work and take the blame or is it between the 2 employees?
 
Here's the situation-2 people working together. Man tells female that her tire is flat and he will pump it up for her. She goes out to look at it. It's low but not flat.She says her husband will take care of it. Husband had just driven the car and tire was NOT low. Husband pumps up tire that night and it doesn't leak down by next morning. Ok maybe someone messed with the tire. Ok the cameras at worked are watched. THERE IT IS! The male employee crouching down by the car at the tire for a period of time. What can be done legally? Is the company responsible for providing a safe place to work and take the blame or is it between the 2 employees?


Why would he let the air out of a tire?
 
Strange. Would he have been crouched down looking for a nail or something? It sounds like you think he may have let the air out of your
tires. I don't know if he did or did not, but that sounds so wierd, so I'm going
with maybe he was really trying to help and giving the tire a closer look??
 
Maybe a sad attempt at getting the woman to take a second look at him-as in possible boyfriend?

Sorry-no advice. It is quite creepy though. What could be next? He can't use that same approach again.
 

legally. like you are going to sue the guy for letting air out of your tire? if you saw the video, i assume your supervisor knows about it. let him talk to the dude.
 
Have your friend get a copy of the guy tampering with her car. That way, if he continues to be some kind of wack stalker, she'll have proof.
 
She should report it to HR. It should be handled internally. This is clear harassment. She is legally entitled to work in a safe workplace free from harassment.
 
If this were the first time this happened, I would think that the guy was checking out the tire to see if there was a nail in the tire or something.

If this has been happening on a regular basis (the tire being flat and the same person mentioning it), I would probably start to be suspicious and would check back video surveillence to see if he was around the car previous times.
 
Oh my, that sounds scary, like he is trying to manipulate her to get her alone. Whatever is going on its not ok. I'd call the police for vandalism whether I was the woman or the business owner, especially if i was the business owner because heaven forbid he attacks her and it comes out the business knew he was doing this and didn't act on it, they will be sued. What if she drives home and gets in an accident, the same thing, the woman can say it was the result of a tire without enough air, that the business knew and it happened on their property. The whole thing is bad news, there is something seriously wrong with this guy. Poor woman
 
It may have been a simple, but boneheaded attempt to play "her hero" or it may have been something more sinister
 
Here's the situation-2 people working together. Man tells female that her tire is flat and he will pump it up for her. She goes out to look at it. It's low but not flat.She says her husband will take care of it. Husband had just driven the car and tire was NOT low. Husband pumps up tire that night and it doesn't leak down by next morning. Ok maybe someone messed with the tire. Ok the cameras at worked are watched. THERE IT IS! The male employee crouching down by the car at the tire for a period of time. What can be done legally? Is the company responsible for providing a safe place to work and take the blame or is it between the 2 employees?
Who the heck would insist to look at surveillance cameras over a flat tire?
 
OP what do you mean should the company take the blame? Take the blame for what? What harm was done?

Also it sounds like she must have already reported it to someone at the company....because they then watched the surveillance tapes, right? :confused3

Does the co worker know the area is under surveillance? Once he knows that, do you think he would try something again? Does the tape actually show him tampering with the tire or just bending down next to it? Could he possibly say he was just checking the tire and that's why he was bending down by it?
 
I agree with the previous poster who found it odd that the surveillance tapes would be viewed after that single incident.
 
It depends on state law in the state the incident occurs in, but generally, legally, the employer can be held liable if they fail to take reasonable measures to address specific complaints made regarding the fostering of a hostile working environment. A single incident, which does not include direct physical contact or a legally-clear threat of violence does not necessarily a hostile working environment make (and if it isn't the employer that provides the parking lot, the connection is even more remote). Also, the employer is obligated to be fair, and make folks aware of what is being perceived as a creating a hostile working environment, and to give potential transgressors an opportunity to adjust their behavior.

However, based on the one-sided description of the incident (the male employee hasn't told his side of the story, here in the thread), all we can say with any assurance is that there was vandalism. Arguably, the fact that the tire held air overnight was a legitimate basis on which to claim that there was vandalism. And the video proved that there was vandalism. Committing vandalism on company property is basis to take action against an employee, but that's between the vandal and the employer. In the civil arena, since there was no substantial damages from the vandalism, it is unlikely that the authorities will do anything other than take the complaint, but it is worth a shot contacting the police to complain.
 
I had a tire one time get real low. We put air in it and it never happened again. There was no foul play or anything sinister involved. Just some weird fluke. :confused3
 
I agree with the previous poster who found it odd that the surveillance tapes would be viewed after that single incident.
If this were the first time this happened, I would think that the guy was checking out the tire to see if there was a nail in the tire or something.

If this has been happening on a regular basis (the tire being flat and the same person mentioning it), I would probably start to be suspicious and would check back video surveillence to see if he was around the car previous times.
This. I don't assume ill behavior based on one incident.

Unless there's more to the story I'd let it go. The incident has been reported, management is aware of it, and it could have been something as simple as the guy was checking the tire to figure out why it was low.
 
I'm confused. You said the guy could have let the air out based on an incident from earlier. Yet, why would he then offer to air it up?? :confused3

None of that makes sense.
 
I'm confused. You said the guy could have let the air out based on an incident from earlier. Yet, why would he then offer to air it up?? :confused3

None of that makes sense.

he created the problem and then gets to look like a knight in shining armor, he's setting her up. lots of people do this with different things to make themselves look good, the fact it's her vehicle and her means to get home is the troubling part.

there must be something else unusual about the situation which lead to the tapes being viewed, the OP doesn't know about. Possibly comments, other odd behavior. if it happened to me and I went to a garage who told me the tires were fine and it happened a second time I would look for vandalism, tampering. I don't see it as unusual, if there is no explanation and the tapes exist why not look
 
he created the problem and then gets to look like a knight in shining armor, he's setting her up...

There's no proof to that. He ver easily could have been checking her tire for a nail or something.
 


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