Leave Carrie Alone!!

[Michelina]

Personally, I don't see this as being any different than if she had been on stage and said that she thought it was nice that people of different races could marry each other but she just didn't believe in it.
I think she's pretty on the outside but not so pretty inside.

 

[mamacatnv]

Personally, I don't see this as being any different than if she had been on stage and said that she thought it was nice that people of different races could marry each other but she just didn't believe in it.
I think she's pretty on the outside but not so pretty inside.

There is a huge difference - no one would dare ask that question and if they did the uproar that would ensue would be horrific and the person asking the question would be flame broiled.

 

[bookgirl]

I think she posed semi nude and lied about it. She's entitled to her opinion but she should have been canned the second the first picture hit the media, no matter what she believes or does not believe.

 

[LUCiD]

From what I heard the pictures were taken as a teen with her friends, and that someone had leaked them onto the internet. Was it right that she took those pictures? No, but we all make mistakes, she apolagized for the pictures. If we all weren't allowed to participate in competitions for past mistakes, then no one would be able to enter one.

 

[marshallandcartersmo]

I can't believe I'm saying it, but I kind of agree.

I completely disagree with her viewpoint. I abhor her viewpoint. But I absolutely believe she's entitled to hold it. And it wasn't like she was out parading up and down the street with it. She was directly asked. Put on the spot in front of an audience.

She stated her position as gracefully as she could--the most graceful way some can explain they're a bigot, anyway.

But, my point is, there was no way for her to "win" in that situation. She was faced with either lying about her viewpoint or being villified for it. I suppose she could have refused to answer, but I can't blame her for not coming up with that on the spot while she was trying to win a pageant.

The question should never have been asked in that forum. Frankly, I think Perez Hilton behaved inappropriately.

I put plenty of blame for this at Mr. Hilton's feet, but as for what happened afterwards, I don't think anyone has done anything wrong. I wouldn't want her representing my organization, and I don't see anything wrong with people reacting to what she said either.

I don't think she's being "picked on". She's being held accountable for expressing a belief a lot of people find wrong. I just think she should never have been asked the question during a beauty pageant.

I agree with your whole post!!

 

[The Mystery Machine]

Am I the only one sick of how the media is treating her? She didn't do anything wrong!! All she did is state her opinion- in a very polite manner!! I don't understand why they continue to pick on her!! She seems very nice by the interviews I've seen. I hope the lawsuit she made goes through- maybe then they'll stop picking on her.

What are your thoughts on this?

Is there something current going on? Someone mentioned she is suing? I have not heard anything going on, so I am not sure what media you are talking about.

As far as what she said, she is entitled to her opinion. I am entitled to believe as I do and disagree with her.

It is a hot topic and will be argued about. If she is suing then she is drawing attention to it and you should expect the media to exploit it.

 

[LuvCuteBoys]

I knew exactly who Carrie was...

The question never should have been asked in the first place. People are entitled to their opinions and the best way to change someone's POV is through your actions. You think she's wrong? Great. Show her. Don't berate her.

Perez Hilton? Please. If you're gonna lambaste someone for very politely stating an opinion that you disagree with, don't turn around and call someone else a gay slur. What are you showing here??

I don't know that her lawsuit is the way to go, but if her side of the story is correct then she should go for it. I'm not sure how she can prove that she was told not to mention God, but I would think she could prove that she was at her scheduled appearances.

Shanna Moakler annoys me.
Just sayin'.

 

[LuvCuteBoys]

She's suing on the grounds of religious discrimination:

LOS ANGELES — Former Miss California USA Carrie Prejean sued pageant officials Monday for libel, slander and religious discrimination, accusing them of telling her to stop mentioning God even before her controversial remarks against gay marriage.

Prejean sued California pageant executive director Keith Lewis and actress and former Miss USA Shanna Moakler, who served as a co-director before resigning in protest of Prejean.

Prejean was fired in June by pageant officials who said she missed several scheduled appearances.

Her attorney, Chuck LiMandri, said that wasn't true, and Prejean was ousted because of controversial remarks in April during the Miss USA pageant that marriage should be between a man and a woman.

She was named first runner-up, and many believe she lost her shot at the Miss USA crown because of her answer.

LiMandri said Prejean filed suit only after he sought detailed information on what events Prejean missed.

"I wanted to give them every opportunity to provide the basis for those claims," LiMandri said.

He said he found no proof that Prejean missed events. "There were no contract violations," he said.

The lawsuit claims Lewis and Moakler both told Prejean not to mention God on her Miss USA application or at public events at least two months before she gave her anti-gay marriage answer.

The suit also claims Moakler and Lewis improperly revealed that Miss California USA had paid for Prejean's breast implants.

Moakler's attorney, Mel Avanzado, said in a statement that Prejean's lawsuit was without merit.

"More importantly, as everyone who watched or read her public statements is well aware, Ms. Prejean's unfortunate and bigoted statements are responsible for any public humiliation or damages to her reputation that she has claimed to have suffered," Avanzado wrote. "Ms. Moakler strenuously denies that she did anything wrong and looks forward to proving that in a court of law."

Prejean is also suing publicist Roger Neal, who handles press for Miss California USA and Lewis.

Neal said he could not immediately comment on the lawsuit.

The lawsuit accuses Lewis, Moakler and Neal of using Internet sites such as Facebook and Twitter to post disparaging remarks about Prejean.

The lawsuit does not name Donald Trump, who owns Miss California USA's parent organization and who in May refused to fire Prejean, a decision he reversed a month later.

The suit states Trump authorized Prejean's appearance on the "Fox and Friends" show in May and a Shape magazine interview, both of which were sighted by Lewis as unauthorized public appearances by the beauty queen.

The complaint does not state a specific dollar figure that Prejean is seeking. It claims she has been subject to public ridicule and humiliation and lost out on modeling work because she lost her crown. She has also suffered anxiety, depression and loss of sleep since her firing, the lawsuit states.

Copyright © 2009 The Associated Press. All rights reserved.

 

[Mrs. Chamberlain]

She stated in her Country and in her family - right?

Well Federal law defines marriage as between a man and a woman.
Her beliefs define marriage the same way - states may have different laws BUT that is how marriage in this Country is defined.

I think it was a stupid question, she was screwed either way and past that I have not followed the story so I cannot comment further.

Wrong. States governments define marriage laws, not the federal government. The federal government have no say in it. When deciding what decisions on law to give to whom, the rights of marriage were FULLY given to the states.

 

[MaryAnnDVC]

I don't think it was all about her opinion...I think it was how she stated it. She stumbled, contradicted herself, and sounded not particularly bright, IMHO. I think it's much like any other job interview...some questions aren't so much about what you say, it's how you say it...sounding coherent, not getting flustered, etc.

 

[Mrs. Chamberlain]

I don't think it was all about her opinion...I think it was how she stated it. She stumbled, contradicted herself, and sounded not particularly bright, IMHO. I think it's much like any other job interview...some questions aren't so much about what you say, it's how you say it...sounding coherent, not getting flustered, etc.

I totally agree with that. I, myself, am totally for gay marriage but if she had said it in a better way, I would have had no problem.

 

[Sanchez]

Wrong. States governments define marriage laws, not the federal government.

Perhaps you have not heard of DOMA:

Defense of Marriage Act, or DOMA, is the short title of a federal law of the United States passed on September 21, 1996 as Public Law No. 104-199, 110 Stat. 2419. Its provisions are codified at 1 U.S.C. § 7 and 28 U.S.C. § 1738C. The law has two effects:

No state (or other political subdivision within the United States) needs to treat a relationship between persons of the same sex as a marriage, even if the relationship is considered a marriage in another state.
The federal government defines marriage as a legal union exclusively between one man and one woman.
The bill was passed by Congress by a vote of 85-14 in the Senate, and a vote of 342-67 in the House of Representatives, and was signed into law by President Bill Clinton on September 21, 1996.

You are correct in that states define their own laws on marriage, but the past poster was correct. DOMA has been challenged on several occasions, however the U.S. Supreme Court has not heard any of the challenges.

 

[Mrs. Chamberlain]

Perhaps you have not heard of DOMA:



You are correct in that states define their own laws on marriage, but the past poster was correct. DOMA has been challenged on several occasions, however the U.S. Supreme Court has not heard any of the challenges.

Honestly, I'm just going off of what I was taught in school.

 

[mamacatnv]

Honestly, I'm just going off of what I was taught in school.

No harm I learned that fact at a COBRA Law seminar. Since COBRA is a federal program the definition of marriage in regards to who qualifies for COBRA benefits is based on the Federal Definition. So when she says Country she is actually correct.

 

[trip]

I don't think it was all about her opinion...I think it was how she stated it. She stumbled, contradicted herself, and sounded not particularly bright, IMHO. I think it's much like any other job interview...some questions aren't so much about what you say, it's how you say it...sounding coherent, not getting flustered, etc.

That's what I think also. Part of her job, if she had won, was to be a spokesperson. With all of the preparations that contestants go through, she surely should have been ready for a question like that especially with Perez Hilton as a judge.

 

[ericamanda01]

I think the media would leave her alone if she would just shut up already. We get it, your a Christian and your against gay marriage. Point taken, now move on.

 

[kaytieeldr]

She was named first runner-up, and many believe she lost her shot at the Miss USA crown because of her answer.

But that happens!!! Part of the judging is based on the contestant's response to a random question. I'm positive she's not the first beauty pageant contestant to lose due to how she answered a question, and she won't be the last.

Sour grapes.

 

[kaytieeldr]

The suit states Trump authorized Prejean's appearance on the "Fox and Friends" show in May and a Shape magazine interview, both of which were sighted by Lewis as unauthorized public appearances by the beauty queen.

Off-topic, I know - but what's this world coming to when a journalist and an editor don't know the correct spelling of the word the journalist intended? Please note, I am criticizing these unnamed people ONLY - not the DISer who copied & pasted the article!!!!

Oh, for those who care - the correct word is cited.

 

[kaytieeldr]

You are correct in that states define their own laws on marriage, but the past poster was correct. DOMA has been challenged on several occasions, however the U.S. Supreme Court has not heard any of the challenges.

Yet.

 

[FireDancer]

I also don't agree with her viewpoint but here in America we are entitled to not all agree about everything. I also don't find her to be a bigot, it is her opinion and it is no more or less right than my opinion. In fact the outcome of the Proposition 8 vote in CA shows that she is in the majority in her state anyway. Now, I am not gay but support their rights and would have voted against Prop 8 but it passed and the vote has to be honored. Marriage laws are, and should continue to be, state issues. I think the 10th amendment is far too underused.

Everyone in the situation is just looking for publicity. Perez for asking the question that has no point in being in a beauty pageant and her for continuing to dwell on the decision that was made.