Late Summer/Early Fall Incentives

[Genie+]

Another way to look at timing a direct purchase UY and dues -

Anyone buying this month with a UY of Sept/Oct/Dec will end up with an extra year of points over the life of the contract compared to earlier UYs, even though all purchases starting this month will end up paying the same dues this year and even over the life of contract.

Compare 150pts bought in a June UY or Oct UY today, let’s say RIV expiring 2070.

Both will pay 40% of 2025’s dues because that’s the time remaining this year.

The Oct UY includes 2024’s points, and they’ll end up with a total 6,900 points.

The June UY will start with 2025’s points, and they’ll end up with a total of 6,750 points.

Oct UY will have 46 annual allotments of points and the June UY only 45 years.

 

[airjay75]

Just in case you're hoping for better incentives anytime soon .

https://www.wsj.com/business/media/...gure-out-streaming-f24a32b1?mod=hp_lead_pos10

"Both [revenue and operating income] exceeded analysts’ targets during a quarter in which Disney saw the launch of a major new competitor: Universal’s new Epic Universe theme park in Orlando, Fla. Disney said Wednesday that its Walt Disney World park in the same city saw record revenue for the June-ending quarter."

Of course, I'm sure DVC is its own division and could have independent targets/objectives, but I imagine sales are highly correlated to park traffic which sounds like it is as healthy as ever.

 

[byurick]

So much for the "Epic is gonna eat Disney's lunch" we all thought was gonna happen this summer....

 

[airjay75]

"A rising tide lifts all boats" may well end up being the more accurate analogy for Epic Universe's opening.

 

[tx911]

I think it would be cool if DVC offered a "bounce back" type incentive for DVC.

Something like if you buy another 100 direct points within a year after purchase, you get an extra $10-20 pp incentive.

It would sure work on me!

 

[davidhr]

Just in case you're hoping for better incentives anytime soon .

https://www.wsj.com/business/media/...gure-out-streaming-f24a32b1?mod=hp_lead_pos10

"Both [revenue and operating income] exceeded analysts’ targets during a quarter in which Disney saw the launch of a major new competitor: Universal’s new Epic Universe theme park in Orlando, Fla. Disney said Wednesday that its Walt Disney World park in the same city saw record revenue for the June-ending quarter."

Of course, I'm sure DVC is its own division and could have independent targets/objectives, but I imagine sales are highly correlated to park traffic which sounds like it is as healthy as ever.

The park division is doing better than what people in forums like these are saying? I’m shocked. Shocked!

 

[muppets3d]

I think it would be cool if DVC offered a "bounce back" type incentive for DVC.

Something like if you buy another 100 direct points within a year after purchase, you get an extra $10-20 pp incentive.

It would sure work on me!

They offer something like that from time to time, for folks with upcoming reservations. I don't remember what it's called. But I remember a few years ago when we added on we had to give an upcoming reservation number to our guide so he could apply that promotion.

 

[Brian Noble]

we all thought

What do you mean "all"? Because some of us were on record with the rising tides idea.

"A rising tide lifts all boats" may well end up being the more accurate analogy for Epic Universe's opening.

You mean like what happened when the Potterverse opened? And what Disney executives said would happen on the earnings calls? Like that?

 

[stat]

Interestingly the Disney Tourist Blog guy said he doesn't think the rising tides theory is correct, though he didn't add much color to that comment. He may have just been suggesting that in the short term (these past 3-4 months) Epic might not be doing much to Disney either way- hurting nor helping. But I believe the longer-term trend will be positive and support the rising tides theory. We'll see!

 

[Brian Noble]

A lot of people think that, and some very visible people in the Disneyana community say it. The only problem is, it is not consistent with what has happened in the past in Orlando.

That doesn't mean it can't happen. But it would be very unusual if it did.

 

[MattB2G]

Yeah, with the increasing prices of all the Parks, I don't think families will be able to add another Park to their planned trips. Probably will decide to do one park one year and then another one the next. WDW & Universal Trips are probably now over $10k for a family.

 

[byurick]

What do you mean "all"? Because some of us were on record with the rising tides idea.

I meant the royal "We" of course....

 

[Brian Noble]

We Are Not Amused.

;-)