Land Border Opening?

[ilovetotravel1977]

@wdwmom3 I will have to re-read them as well.

What did they post that was not allowed? Just so I know for future so I don't post something similar.

 

[pigletto]

@wdwmom3 I will have to re-read them as well.

What did they post that was not allowed? Just so I know for future so I don't post something similar.

It’s stickied at the top of the forum

https://www.disboards.com/threads/disboards-covid-19-discussion-policy-effective-06-06-2021.3840666/

 

[ilovetotravel1977]

Oh I see no vaccine chatter even if it relates to the border opening. But I can see how that can get out of hand or off topic of travel.

I need a break until Monday's announcement anyways LOL Information overload these days!

 

[ellbell]

Oh I see no vaccine chatter even if it relates to the border opening. But I can see how that can get out of hand or off topic of travel.

I need a break until Monday's announcement anyways LOL Information overload these days!

Vaccine policies can be discussed. Opinions can't be. Everything I've seen and posted has been on policy and just trying to clarify what the policy is. Nobody is clear on it which is creating confusion. Hopefully monday will clarify some of it.

 

[wdwmom3]

@wdwmom3 I will have to re-read them as well.

What did they post that was not allowed? Just so I know for future so I don't post something similar.

Basically only thing allowed about covid is facts as they relate to travel. No opinions.

So all the debate about percentages and what the government is or not doing etc is not allowed.

 

[wdwmom3]

Vaccine policies can be discussed. Opinions can't be. Everything I've seen and posted has been on policy and just trying to clarify what the policy is. Nobody is clear on it which is creating confusion. Hopefully monday will clarify some of it.

Oh I’ve seen plenty of opinions. I won’t single anyone out and name names though.

 

[ilovetotravel1977]

@wdwmom3 yea, not really required to call people out. Good call.

 

[mamaofsix]

Good article today on ctv concerning border re-opening:

"The National Hockey League gets an exemption not based on the science or the data, based on the Stanley Cup playoff schedule, that’s arbitrary,” he said. “It’s a slap in the face to families that have been separated for 15 months, for people who have not been able to visit, enjoy, maintain their properties for the past 15 months and it’s not good as it relates to U.S.-Canadian relations.”

In a separate interview on CTV’s Question Period, President and CEO of the Business Council of Canada Goldy Hyder said the extension is “extremely disappointing” and shows a lack of preparation. “This agreement is being renewed every month, this can’t just sneak up on anybody. We knew this day was going to come where more and more people are going to be vaccinated and they’re going to want to know what the benefits of that vaccination are,” he said. “The use of phrases like ‘we’re working on’ is very concerning and it erodes public confidence and it erodes business confidence.”

https://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/u-s...ion-on-reopening-border-with-canada-1.5476832

 

[Sue M]

Basically only thing allowed about covid is facts as they relate to travel. No opinions.

So all the debate about percentages and what the government is or not doing etc is not allowed.

But vaccine % and what govt is doing (without opinion) is directly related to travel isn’t it

 

[Donald - my hero]

But vaccine % and what govt is doing (without opinion) is directly related to travel isn’t it

My understanding of the new guidelines is YES, we can discuss/report on what the current percentages are within our region, province and country as a statement of fact. However, adding comments as to what is contributing to those numbers (for example my stating that our region is currently booking 2nd shots in higher numbers than 1st due to our wonky system) and how we feel about how fast/slow/inconsistent the vaccine roll-out within different areas might be crossing the line ever-so-slightly.

We can also keep each other informed as to what the factual goalposts have been set at so long as we don't register our displeasure over those and how we think they should or shouldn't be enforced. I think this would also include not sharing speculations??

I'm going to assume that this post is considered acceptable even though I'm sharing an understanding of the new guidelines (tongue planted firmly in my cheek here!!)

 

[TammyLynn33]

Good article today on ctv concerning border re-opening:

"The National Hockey League gets an exemption not based on the science or the data, based on the Stanley Cup playoff schedule, that’s arbitrary,” he said. “It’s a slap in the face to families that have been separated for 15 months, for people who have not been able to visit, enjoy, maintain their properties for the past 15 months and it’s not good as it relates to U.S.-Canadian relations.”

In a separate interview on CTV’s Question Period, President and CEO of the Business Council of Canada Goldy Hyder said the extension is “extremely disappointing” and shows a lack of preparation. “This agreement is being renewed every month, this can’t just sneak up on anybody. We knew this day was going to come where more and more people are going to be vaccinated and they’re going to want to know what the benefits of that vaccination are,” he said. “The use of phrases like ‘we’re working on’ is very concerning and it erodes public confidence and it erodes business confidence.”

https://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/u-s...ion-on-reopening-border-with-canada-1.5476832

What they did by crossing was no difference than any other biz traveller still traveling across the borders. Yes no quarantine but daily tests sometimes multiple and isolated amongst themselves. ( team plane , transportation , hotel , meals brought in to them etc ) they simply weren’t turned loose to “visit” it’s a biz / people’s careers .

 

[ottawamom]

We knew this day was going to come where more and more people are going to be vaccinated and they’re going to want to know what the benefits of that vaccination are,” he said.

The benefit of vaccinations are simple. We, the vaccinated, don't get seriously sick.

 

[pixie_mtl]

Hopefully we'll have a thoroughly-comprehensive- information from Trudeau's administration tomorrow. But if the plan is to keep Canada close up until after (possible) elections, I wish they'd just tell us so.

 

[ellbell]

Hopefully we'll have a thoroughly-comprehensive- information from Trudeau's administration tomorrow. But if the plan is to keep Canada close up until after (possible) elections, I wish they'd just tell us so.

Haven't heard that particular theory before.

 

[Sue M]

I guess we’re all going to be glued to the TV news tomorrow!

 

[bcwife76]

Do we know what time the press conference takes place tomorrow?

 

[Prince John Robin Hood]

I don't know that an actual press conference is scheduled. I believe they just said they'll announce minor changes.

 

[TommyJK]

Just heard on CTV news the announcement is expected for 10:00am tomorrow.

No mention if it's a press conference or just a news release.

 

[ilovetotravel1977]

I don't think we should expect much. I think it will be confirmation on the hotel quarantine rules, rules for fully vaxxed, etc.

I read an article that the digital certification won't be ready until fall (conveniently) for non-essential travel, so I think anything they announce will be for families, property owners, etc.

Edit to add: I also keep reading that part of the issue is provinces still have travel bans / restrictions in place. I think the Feds are going to wait until all of the provinces are open to the country at least.

 

[ilovetotravel1977]

I have my popcorn...