Land Border Opening?

[NewYKRunner]

Other countries are re-opening with the variants present, but the key is they are way ahead in vaccinations. If we can reach PM’s new goals in terms of vaccinations then yes they will re-open in 2021. I don’t think we want to be at a point where other countries have almost no restrictions and they are told they can travel if vaccinated and is Canada keeping us from doing anything and going anywhere? It will not go over well anymore. I’m not saying to reopen now, I think we are a few months away from it, but again if the world around us reopens (let’s just even say USA and UK who we follow closely) and Canada doesn’t solely because of lack of vaccines... I don’t think our PM wants that. The federal government knows they messed up with our initial vaccine rollout, they are doing everything possible now to catch up. It will not look good if we are locked up the second half of this year while other countries resume. Lets have a bit of a positive outlook at least.

Look at Israel’s daily numbers to see how effective the vaccine still is against the variants.

 

[mshanson3121]

Look at Israel’s daily numbers to see how effective the vaccine still is against the variants.

Exactly! Now, I suppose the question is - is the variant spreading there like here? But regardless, they're doing excellent in their case numbers.

 

[HappilyEverAfter80]

Exactly! Now, I suppose the question is - is the variant spreading there like here? But regardless, they're doing excellent in their case numbers.

My understanding it’s not - but they are mostly vaccinated so that’s why (most likely)

 

[pigletto]

Exactly! Now, I suppose the question is - is the variant spreading there like here? But regardless, they're doing excellent in their case numbers.

It was in the UK which had a highest daily case count of 68,000 on January 8th. By the end of March they were down to 3900 per day , a 95% reduction. They began their mass vaccination campaign on December 8th. So relatively speaking we are now where they were back in January and will hopefully see a marked improvement as we continue to vaccinate. The UK followed the same trajectory as Israel.

ETA) Info found in this blog post from a doctor in Guelph who broke down the data nicely. I posted this last week but here it is again. We are pretty much seeing exactly what she said.
http://braceletofhope.blogspot.com/2021/03/hope-is-on-horizon.html

 

[Carolynleanne]

Other countries are re-opening with the variants present, but the key is they are way ahead in vaccinations. If we can reach PM’s new goals in terms of vaccinations then yes they will re-open in 2021. I don’t think we want to be at a point where other countries have almost no restrictions and they are told they can travel if vaccinated and Canada keeping us from doing anything and going anywhere? It will not go over well anymore. I’m not saying to reopen now, I think we are a few months away from it, but again if the world around us reopens (let’s just even say USA and UK who we follow closely) and Canada doesn’t solely because of lack of vaccines... I don’t think our PM wants that. The federal government knows they messed up with our initial vaccine rollout, they are doing everything possible now to catch up. It will not look good if we are locked up the second half of this year while other countries resume. Lets have a bit of a positive outlook at least.

Positive perspective: I’m renewing the kids passports this weekend in hopes of an end of 2021 opening

 

[HappilyEverAfter80]

Positive perspective: I’m renewing the kids passports this weekend in hopes of an end of 2021 opening

Ooh I think my son’s expires sep 2021 better get on it too

 

[mshanson3121]

It was in the UK which had a highest daily case count of 68,000 on January 8th. By the end of March they were down to 3900 per day , a 95% reduction. They began their mass vaccination campaign on December 8th. So relatively speaking we are now where they were back in January and will hopefully see a marked improvement as we continue to vaccinate. The UK followed the same trajectory as Israel.

ETA) Info found in this blog post from a doctor in Guelph who broke down the data nicely. I posted this last week but here it is again. We are pretty much seeing exactly what she said.
http://braceletofhope.blogspot.com/2021/03/hope-is-on-horizon.html

So right in time for summer....sounds good to me!!!

 

[NewYKRunner]

Exactly! Now, I suppose the question is - is the variant spreading there like here? But regardless, they're doing excellent in their case numbers.

I had a link to an article where Israel apparently saw a surge from the variants at some point but as they continued with vaccinations their cases dropped again.

 

[damo]

My passport expires in June but I want to wait to get my hair done before I get my passport pictures taken!!!!!

Who knows when that will be!!!!!?????

 

[Carolynleanne]

My passport expires in June but I want to wait to get my hair done before I get my passport pictures taken!!!!!

Who knows when that will be!!!!!?????

Getting our kids photos done tomorrow! Have you mail in still, so we want to get on it before it gets busy!

 

[Sue M]

Other countries are re-opening with the variants present, but the key is they are way ahead in vaccinations. If we can reach PM’s new goals in terms of vaccinations then yes they will re-open in 2021. I don’t think we want to be at a point where other countries have almost no restrictions and they are told they can travel if vaccinated and Canada keeping us from doing anything and going anywhere? It will not go over well anymore. I’m not saying to reopen now, I think we are a few months away from it, but again if the world around us reopens (let’s just even say USA and UK who we follow closely) and Canada doesn’t solely because of lack of vaccines... I don’t think our PM wants that. The federal government knows they messed up with our initial vaccine rollout, they are doing everything possible now to catch up. It will not look good if we are locked up the second half of this year while other countries resume. Lets have a bit of a positive outlook at least.

Trying to find something positive, but having all time high 1,000 new cases a day here it’s hard to find the positive. Hopefully with more vaccines things will improve soon.

 

[Sue M]

My passport expires in June but I want to wait to get my hair done before I get my passport pictures taken!!!!!

Who knows when that will be!!!!!?????

Absolutely! Since we’re stuck with that photo for 10 yrs!

 

[Gina-Gina-Bo-Bina]

Other countries are re-opening with the variants present, but the key is they are way ahead in vaccinations. If we can reach PM’s new goals in terms of vaccinations then yes they will re-open in 2021. I don’t think we want to be at a point where other countries have almost no restrictions and they are told they can travel if vaccinated and Canada keeping us from doing anything and going anywhere? It will not go over well anymore. I’m not saying to reopen now, I think we are a few months away from it, but again if the world around us reopens (let’s just even say USA and UK who we follow closely) and Canada doesn’t solely because of lack of vaccines... I don’t think our PM wants that. The federal government knows they messed up with our initial vaccine rollout, they are doing everything possible now to catch up. It will not look good if we are locked up the second half of this year while other countries resume. Lets have a bit of a positive outlook at least.

Keeping a positive outlook, I'm hoping that perhaps the land borders will take a staggered approach at opening by summertime. It really doesn't have to be all or nothing, and a slower/controlled reopening would have a lot of benefits. I would like to see fully vaccinated Canadian citizens living in the US have the chance to return home to reunite with their families, and vice versa, for fully vaccinated Americans living in Canada having the opportunity to return to visit their families in the USA. Make proof of a negative PCR test within 48 hours an additional requirement. Allow that group to move across the borders for the first 30 days and see how it affects infection rates in both countries.

Even if this hope and dream of mine comes true, it will be too late for me unfortunately (my mother died in Canada on Valentines Day, and I was prohibited from being able to see her before she passed) but hopefully some of my fellow Canucks who live abroad could be spared that heartache with this type of plan by later this year.

 

[ottawamom]

So sorry for your loss.

 

[damo]

Aww Gina. I'm so sorry to hear this.

 

[pigletto]

Keeping a positive outlook, I'm hoping that perhaps the land borders will take a staggered approach at opening by summertime. It really doesn't have to be all or nothing, and a slower/controlled reopening would have a lot of benefits. I would like to see fully vaccinated Canadian citizens living in the US have the chance to return home to reunite with their families, and vice versa, for fully vaccinated Americans living in Canada having the opportunity to return to visit their families in the USA. Make proof of a negative PCR test within 48 hours an additional requirement. Allow that group to move across the borders for the first 30 days and see how it affects infection rates in both countries.

Even if this hope and dream of mine comes true, it will be too late for me unfortunately (my mother died in Canada on Valentines Day, and I was prohibited from being able to see her before she passed) but hopefully some of my fellow Canucks who live abroad could be spared that heartache with this type of plan by later this year.

I am so sorry for your loss Gina and that you couldn‘t see your mom. That’s terrible .

 

[mshanson3121]

Very sorry for your loss

 

[HappilyEverAfter80]

Keeping a positive outlook, I'm hoping that perhaps the land borders will take a staggered approach at opening by summertime. It really doesn't have to be all or nothing, and a slower/controlled reopening would have a lot of benefits. I would like to see fully vaccinated Canadian citizens living in the US have the chance to return home to reunite with their families, and vice versa, for fully vaccinated Americans living in Canada having the opportunity to return to visit their families in the USA. Make proof of a negative PCR test within 48 hours an additional requirement. Allow that group to move across the borders for the first 30 days and see how it affects infection rates in both countries.

Even if this hope and dream of mine comes true, it will be too late for me unfortunately (my mother died in Canada on Valentines Day, and I was prohibited from being able to see her before she passed) but hopefully some of my fellow Canucks who live abroad could be spared that heartache with this type of plan by later this year.

I’m so sorry about your mother. Big hug.
I think you may be onto something with the gradual border reopening. I think in general the relaxation of the restrictions (masks etc) will be very gradual.

 

[momof2gr8kids]

Keeping a positive outlook, I'm hoping that perhaps the land borders will take a staggered approach at opening by summertime. It really doesn't have to be all or nothing, and a slower/controlled reopening would have a lot of benefits. I would like to see fully vaccinated Canadian citizens living in the US have the chance to return home to reunite with their families, and vice versa, for fully vaccinated Americans living in Canada having the opportunity to return to visit their families in the USA. Make proof of a negative PCR test within 48 hours an additional requirement. Allow that group to move across the borders for the first 30 days and see how it affects infection rates in both countries.

Even if this hope and dream of mine comes true, it will be too late for me unfortunately (my mother died in Canada on Valentines Day, and I was prohibited from being able to see her before she passed) but hopefully some of my fellow Canucks who live abroad could be spared that heartache with this type of plan by later this year.

I'm so sorry about your mom Gina, and not being able to be with your other family members during this time for support. I hope as well there is some type of staggered opening so families can be reunited easier. With the doctors and hospitals in provinces sounding the alarm about ICU capacity and the variants, I fear it won't happen as quickly as we hope.

 

[HappilyEverAfter80]

I'm so sorry about your mom Gina, and not being able to be with your other family members during this time for support. I hope as well there is some type of staggered opening so families can be reunited easier. With the doctors and hospitals in provinces sounding the alarm about ICU capacity and the variants, I fear it won't happen as quickly as we hope.

Again though, if our vaccine roll out improves then we should get there by Fall.
We wouldn’t be having the problems we do now if our vaccines were as advanced as the States and other countries. They have variants too but it’s much more under control as more and more of their population is vaccinated. Meanwhile Canada:
Still, I really think by Fall we’ll be travelling more freely.
Fingers and toes crossed lol.