Knockoff Purses in St. Thomas or PR

[hydster]

Well I guess I'll have to start giving back all of the fake stuff I own then such as my Cubic Zirconia ring and my Diamonique earrings along with my Prada bag! If buying such things and owning them is tacky count me in! I refuse to go out and buy another diamond engagement ring because my house was robbed and it was taken so I buy Diamonique from QVC because at least if they rob me of my purse, earrings, ring or whatever they get "screwed" on it as well.

I don't see how it's anyone's business to tell me that I'm tacky because I don't own the "real thing" as it's my business. If I want to buy a knock off purse why does it concern you? You CHOOSE not to buy a knock off and you want the real thing. If I want to chance being caught by customs (though I would LOVE to know the statistics of that actually happening since Customs has never once even glanced at anything I was wearing or carrying) then it should be my choice.

These bag companies aren't losing my money because it's money they wouldn't have had in the first place. Maybe if designers didn't overprice their purses people wouldn't need to buy fakes! There is no way that their bag making is much different to justify the money they charge and chances are that the same people who are making the knock off purses are making the same bag you are paying big bucks for..and they are still making $2.00 a day no matter if they make a bag that is really for Prada or a bag that is fake! There are a million things out there that are fake...look at fashion as a whole! If Ann Taylor makes a really nice pair of trousers and another store like walmart carries pants that look exactly like them then why aren't they tacky as well? I would doubt that every single piece of clothing in your closet is designer yet it was INSPIRED and COPIED from designer shows..therefore one would have to conclude that you are tacky as well.

Call me tacky or anything you want. Tell me whatever you want .....I could care less what you think about me. My husband and kids like me and their thoughts of me are all I care about!

 

[legs22]

They are selling knock off's out in the open in stores on Canal St. in NYC. My friend wanted to go so I went along. I felt like a kid in a candy store. It was so much fun! And I have gotten so many compliments on my fake Coach- and I don't tell them it's fake either. Sure, the quality isn't there like the real ones but I am not going to spend that kind of money on a real one. I also got a fake LV and a Prada but always use the Coach because I like it the best.

 

[drarill]

You can find 100%legal Coach bags in the Coach Outlet in Old San Juan, if you want the latest model you will need to go to Plaza las Americas in Hato Rey, there is a Coach Store and a Macys there. You cant find the fake bags anymore here, they used to sell them everywhere but they are illegal, but some people still sells them, those people gets them in NYC.

 

[cjsmith]

Originally posted by hydster
Well I guess I'll have to start giving back all of the fake stuff I own then such as my Cubic Zirconia ring and my Diamonique earrings along with my Prada bag! If buying such things and owning them is tacky count me in! I refuse to go out and buy another diamond engagement ring because my house was robbed and it was taken so I buy Diamonique from QVC because at least if they rob me of my purse, earrings, ring or whatever they get "screwed" on it as well.

I don't see how it's anyone's business to tell me that I'm tacky because I don't own the "real thing" as it's my business. If I want to buy a knock off purse why does it concern you? You CHOOSE not to buy a knock off and you want the real thing. If I want to chance being caught by customs (though I would LOVE to know the statistics of that actually happening since Customs has never once even glanced at anything I was wearing or carrying) then it should be my choice.

These bag companies aren't losing my money because it's money they wouldn't have had in the first place. Maybe if designers didn't overprice their purses people wouldn't need to buy fakes! There is no way that their bag making is much different to justify the money they charge and chances are that the same people who are making the knock off purses are making the same bag you are paying big bucks for..and they are still making $2.00 a day no matter if they make a bag that is really for Prada or a bag that is fake! There are a million things out there that are fake...look at fashion as a whole! If Ann Taylor makes a really nice pair of trousers and another store like walmart carries pants that look exactly like them then why aren't they tacky as well? I would doubt that every single piece of clothing in your closet is designer yet it was INSPIRED and COPIED from designer shows..therefore one would have to conclude that you are tacky as well.

Call me tacky or anything you want. Tell me whatever you want .....I could care less what you think about me. My husband and kids like me and their thoughts of me are all I care about!

There is a very big difference between buying diamonique and buying fake bags, the diamonique if perfectly legal and the fake bags are not. No matter how you justify it, it is still ILLIGEAL. You also can't compare Ann Taylor having a pair of pants and a store like Walmart selling pants that are similar. Walmart is not copying Ann Taylor's pants and putting the Ann Taylor label on it. The pants are INSPIRED and COPIED as you say, that is different. They are not passing themselves off as real Ann Taylor pants. The analogy doesn't work here, sorry. The fake LV bags, Coach bags, and the like are putting the initials, labels, etc. on them and passing themselves off as the real thing. You may feel comfortable purchasing these items and using them, but no matter what, it is against the law. Justify it all you want, but it's against the law. Bringing these items back into our county is the same as smuggling anything else against the law, like Cuban cigars.
If you want to wear Diamonique, I certainly can't blame you, especially since you've been robbed before. But I can tell you, I would never pass them along as the real thing to my friends. If someone asked me, I would be honest and tell them the truth. If they were friends, then they wouldn't care. If you have to be dishonest about it, then you really aren't comfortable with it.
And I certainly didn't call you tacky, I don't remember reading those words. I just have a problem paying the real price for all my LV bags and having all of those fake ones out there, sorry, that's how I feel. My husband worked hard for me to be able to afford them and I use them with pride. I didn't carry a fake one ever, I waited until I could have the real thing.

 

[hydster]

Buying fake bags is NOT illegal..SELLING them is!!!! I don't care how many times you say it buying them is not illegal..selling them for profit is!!!!!!!! Selling them is called "trafficking in counterfit goods" and even if the buyer KNOWS they are knock offs the minute you knowingly SELL a knockoff purse it becomes a crime to be the SELLER not the BUYER!http://www.themilwaukeechannel.com/news/2188127/detail.html and I can send you many more stories and articles just like this..I just don't care to keep justifying the fact that it is NOT illegal to buy!

Also if I bring it off the plane, ship or whatever and I don't hide it (which I never have) I'd highly constitute that as SMUGGLING! Smuggling is defined by Meriam Webster as : to import or export secretly contrary to the law and especially without paying duties imposed by law. And I CLAIMED my Prada knock off bag ON my customs form..therefore it must NOT be illegal as they didn't throw my butt in jail and did NOT question me on it nor take it away! The analogy you use with the Cuban Cigars is I guess as flawed as my analogy of purchasing copied designer pants! We both strike out on analogies! Buying a knock of purse in St. Thomas ( A US VIRGIN ISLAND) is not the same as buying Cuban cigars from CUBA who we have a trade embargo against as well as many OTHER US POLICIES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And there is NOT a big difference in symantics of buying diamonique and buying a knock off handbag....THEY BOTH pretend to be something they are not! Diamonique or CZ doesn't have a "name stamp" on it nor do diamonds but they still pretend to be something they are not! I don't care what analogy you use buying something that is not real and having it look like the real thing is the SAME THING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I don't lie about it but I surely don't find everyone who looked at my ring and say "Oh it's a cubic" so I guess if you have to tell everyone that your purse is real you are just on the other end of the spectrum.

You know...My sil bought Tommy Hilfiger pants at an outlet store...guess what after looking at them and looking at my REAL Hilfigers I purchased at a "real" Tommy store they are different but I had no idea NOR DID SHE. They had the tommy logo on them, the pant style looked the same but the TAG was different in the pants and the logo was just a tad different in size and shape. The size tag was worded just a little different and the ONLY thing that tipped us off was the wording! She bought them at an outlet store that was perfectly legal and had a business license so in effect she BOUGHT a knock off pair of Tommy Hilfiger Jeans legally and she's wearing them...BIG DEAL! She paid less than a Hilfiger store but she bought them and wears them. So she shouldn't wear them because I paid full price for a real pair? Give me a break!

It's great that you want your husband to work hard and buy you the real thing.....we can afford the real thing to the only difference between you and I is that you are willing to pay the full price for something and actually care and I don't! You can tell me how awful I am and how wonderful you are because you paid full price but I JUST DON'T CARE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I'll buy knock off bags, knock off diamonds and knock off jeans if I want because they are there and I CAN! I think the only thing you are mad about is that they have the label on them. If you can afford to buy the real thing then go for it and wear it proudly and if you can so spot a fake so what....bully for you!

Some of us have decided that our money is better spent in other areas than buying overpriced designer purses or jewelry or jeans or anything else....WHY DO YOU CARE????? I could care less if you buy your purse or you don't...my life will still be the same tomorrow if you spend $2000 on a purse or 20 bucks and until it is ILLEGAL I will continue to do buy them..end of story!

Now I'm off to the store in my cubic zirconia and my fake prada bag but my REAL hilfiger jeans! 1 out of 3..whoopeeee!

Heidi

 

[1stNoel]

It is not illegal to buy or own these products, but that does not excuse the fact that you are knowingly supporting organized crime. Sorry, but no matter how much you type, you can't justify that. IMO no label or item is worth crossing that line.

 

[cjsmith]

Originally posted by hydster



And there is NOT a big difference in symantics of buying diamonique and buying a knock off handbag....THEY BOTH pretend to be something they are not! Diamonique or CZ doesn't have a "name stamp" on it nor do diamonds but they still pretend to be something they are not! I don't care what analogy you use buying something that is not real and having it look like the real thing is the SAME THING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I don't lie about it but I surely don't find everyone who looked at my ring and say "Oh it's a cubic" so I guess if you have to tell everyone that your purse is real you are just on the other end of the spectrum."

I HAVE NEVER SAID THAT I TELL EVERYONE THAT MY BAG IS REAL. That is never what came across in any of my posts. I have never in my entire life said to anyone that my bag was real. I don't discuss it, I did here only because of the topic. What I said is that I would admit that my bag wasn't real if somene admired it, there is a big difference.

"It's great that you want your husband to work hard and buy you the real thing.....we can afford the real thing to the only difference between you and I is that you are willing to pay the full price for something and actually care and I don't! You can tell me how awful I am and how wonderful you are because you paid full price but I JUST DON'T CARE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I'll buy knock off bags, knock off diamonds and knock off jeans if I want because they are there and I CAN! I think the only thing you are mad about is that they have the label on them. If you can afford to buy the real thing then go for it and wear it proudly and if you can so spot a fake so what....bully for you!"

I NEVER SAID YOU WERE AWFUL OR CALLED YOU ANY NAMES OF ANY KIND. The only thing that I stated was that I didn't believe in bringing in fake bags. It may not be illegal to own the bags, but it is illegal to bring them into this country with you I believe. If I'm wrong, that I'm wrong.
It is taking money out of the designers pockets as there are plenty of people out there who will no longer buy the real products because there are so many fakes around.

Some of us have decided that our money is better spent in other areas than buying overpriced designer purses or jewelry or jeans or anything else....WHY DO YOU CARE????? I could care less if you buy your purse or you don't...my life will still be the same tomorrow if you spend $2000 on a purse or 20 bucks and until it is ILLEGAL I will continue to do buy them..end of story!

"Who the heck said that anyone spent $2000 on any purse? Some of the smaller bags start at $200.


Now I'm off to the store in my cubic zirconia and my fake prada bag but my REAL hilfiger jeans! 1 out of 3..whoopeeee!

Heidi [/B]

No matter how many stories you did up, the bags are counterfit. It may not be supporting organized crime as another poster said, but by buying the bag you are supporting someone who is commiting a crime! You know that the person who is selling you the bag is commiting a crime and by purchasing the goods from them you are indeed in a roundabout way helping them to commit a crime. So because it's not illegal to purchase the bags only sell them, that makes it's okay.
The difference between buying diamonique and buying a knock-off purse is that the person who is selling the diamonique is not commiting a crime, the person selling the knock-off purse is. I would have no problems buying something from someone who is doing something legal. I do however, have a big problem buying something from somene who is commiting a crime, whether my end is legal or not. I tell the people that own my hair salon all the time that I don't agree with how they're making extra money. They still do it and I don't buy. To each his own.

Again, I never called you tacky nor did I ever call you an awful person. Those words came directly from you. I never posted a negative name to anyone at any time on these boards. All I posted was that I didn't believe in the ethics of buying goods that I know are being illegally sold.

Before you get all hot under the collar again, I'll be happy to end my side of this disagreement since clearly we completely differ in on views on this subject. I just wanted to set the record straight that I didn't put you down personally in any manner.

 

[two-foxes]

Geez, nothing like a good fix for Debate Board widthdrawl! Who says they got rid of it!

 

[MBFergie]

Wow.. I just wanted to get my DD a purse. Who knew I would ruffle some feathers!!

We all have different priorities in life.... let's keep that in mind and not judge others.

 

[Viking]

First: It spells 'counterfeit' - not 'counterfit'
Second: Some of you obviously have a problem with the definitions of 'Illegal' and 'Immoral': It is 'illegal' to sell fake products, but it is 'immoral' to buy them.
For illegal acts you may have to answer to a court of law, for immoral acts you have to answer to your conscience - That is if you have one
BTW, Customs may impound any fake product upon entering the USA or the European Community.

 

[legs22]

Originally posted by Viking
It is 'illegal' to sell fake products

I have a question? I'm not trying to start another argument. I just always wondered this after I saw it in Feb. If it is illegal to sell fake designer bags then why are all these stores that sell them on Canal St. in NYC allowed to stay open? They don't hide what they are doing. It's all done in the open. Their whole store consists of selling these bags, wallets, etc.

 

[bettemom]

Originally posted by Viking
First: It spells 'counterfeit' - not 'counterfit'
Second: Some of you obviously have a problem with the definitions of 'Illegal' and 'Immoral': It is 'illegal' to sell fake products, but it is 'immoral' to buy them.
For illegal acts you may have to answer to a court of law, for immoral acts you have to answer to your conscience - That is if you have one
BTW, Customs may impound any fake product upon entering the USA or the European Community.

Woo Hoo Eric, you go!!!

See you in a few weeks

Bye, Kim

 

[Penny12]

Ok, this one is done. Move along now...nothing more to see here