kides say Magic Bands have ruined Disney

[Hokie2000]

We were at DL a couple weeks ago on a Saturday of the last weekend before most APs became blocked. It was crazy packed. But even with several rides down we were still able to pull FPs all day long. And keep in mind DL does not have FP on as many attractions as WDW.



I've never hidden the fact that I haven't been back to WDW since FP+ rolled out. I know better than to plan a trip around something I know will disappoint me, especially when we live about mid-way between the 2 Disney resorts and can enjoy legacy FP still (at least for now). We have in fact already committed to heading west again for our next big trip by upgrading to APs at DLR. That said, if I hope to make a quick stop in the MK this summer, wouldn't it behoove me to be up to date on FP+?

And I'd like to think I would allow anyone the chance to come back and clarify such a glaringly incorrect statement. What's the point about lying or exaggerating something so easily proven wrong?

Surely it would. I may be mixing you up with other posters, but your posts seem to be more of the "negative statement" variety than the "curious about other experiences" variety.

It goes without saying that you are welcome to your opinion, however, in my opinion it doesn't really hold weight re: the effectiveness/usability of FP+ because you haven't even tried it. If your of the opinion that you don't want to try it then good for you, I'm glad that DL is working out for you. I'd love to visit DL someday too.

 

[Jennasis]

Surely it would. I may be mixing you up with other posters, but your posts seem to be more of the "negative statement" variety than the "curious about other experiences" variety.

It goes without saying that you are welcome to your opinion, however, in my opinion it doesn't really hold weight re: the effectiveness/usability of FP+ because you haven't even tried it. If your of the opinion that you don't want to try it then good for you, I'm glad that DL is working out for you. I'd love to visit DL someday too.

Does my opinion hold weight? I tried it and didnt like it.

 

[MakiraMarlena]

With FP+, about 70,000 of those people had no chance to get a FP+ for Space Mountain until 30 days before their visit.

Based on what's out there now there is apparently no reason why anyone would NOT be able to get a fastpass for Space Mountain 30 days before their visit or change a time for it. Anna and Elsa, you'll have problems with that one, but but SM not so much. Most attractions just do not book up that quickly.

There might be problems doing it while you are standing in the park on the same day during a very crowded time, but not ahead of time.

 

[CTDisneyfan816]

Under legacy FP, you were eligible to pull another once the window opened on your old one or two hours later, whichever came first. Worst case scenario was 2 hours.

That is correct.

 

[Hokie2000]

Ive never eaten bugs before but im pretty sure i wouldnt like them..yet there are plenty of people who do.

All well and good. Being pretty sure you won't like something you haven't tried is a little different than umpteen posts about the awfulness of the thing you haven't tried. If there was a discussion about recipes using cricket flour (it's a real thing) and I constantly talked about how disgusting it was and how it's basically the end of baked goods as we know it, yet I had never tried it...

 

[JamieH]

I'm curious to see how our upcoming trip will go. My husband and I did an adult trip last year in February, soon after FP+ came out and it was perfect for our relaxed touring style. This time around, it's just the kids and I but I use touring plans and tried to stick with their recommendations so I'm hoping things will go smoothly! All in all, I think it can be great once everyone gets used to it!

 

[jtowntoflorida]

It goes without saying that you are welcome to your opinion, however, in my opinion it doesn't really hold weight re: the effectiveness/usability of FP+ because you haven't even tried it. If your of the opinion that you don't want to try it then good for you, I'm glad that DL is working out for you. I'd love to visit DL someday too.

OK, talk to me, then. I have three FP+ trips under my belt in the last 14 months. Based on her posts, mom2trk and I seem to have similar touring styles. I agree almost 100% with the things I've seen her post...my complaints mirror hers. So, just ascribe her posts to me, and tell me I'm wrong. FP+ cramps my touring style. We do far, far fewer rides now than we were able to in the past. Call me a legacy FP "super user" but the norm for us WAS four rides on Soarin' in a day and four rides on TSM in a day, with only one trip through the SB line, and thus minimal waits. We are people who have been often enough that we know what we like to ride and we skip everything else. We like to ride the same rides over and over again. This system doesn't work as well for us as the old system did. In August, when crowds were low, the system worked better. In December, it was a different story. We did almost no rides in the afternoons because we weren't willing to wait in long (over 30 minutes) lines and there was no 4th FP+ availability for all for of us any of our favorites. I scheduled my FP+s so that we had generally gotten through them by 1:00 at the latest, but the 4th FP+ was still impossible. Honestly, after our August trip, I was shocked at what I saw popping up on the kiosks in December. We all learned quickly that we were getting up and getting to the parks right at opening so we could do re-rides then and afternoons were full of doing "something else" that wasn't rides.

We still had fun, but it wasn't because of FP+, and it didn't seem like this trip was as fun as past ones.

 

[Suvadoo]

Does my opinion hold weight? I tried it and didnt like it.

Same here, but maybe we were "Doing it Wrong" and that's the reason we don't like FP+.

 

[SmithSmith]

Ive never eaten bugs before but im pretty sure i wouldnt like them..yet there are plenty of people who do.

I don't understand this analogy.

First, wanting/liking to eat bugs is a learned behavior and/or something that is neccassary for survival. For most Americans, we are not taught to eat bugs, nor do we need to, and more importantly, it is not instinctual. We do not crave bugs, we do not look at them and start to salivate, we don't feel an urge to hunt or capture them, etc.

Second, knowing/assuming you don't like eating bugs even though you've never tried one is understandable. However, what you probably don't do is join a popular Insect forum, subscribe to threads about "Entomophagy", and post relentlessly about how it's gross to eat bugs.

 

[Hokie2000]

Does my opinion hold weight? I tried it and didnt like it.

Good for you for trying it Sorry you didn't like it. It's just like you said - you tried it and you didn't like it, an opinion based on experience.

 

[JimmyV]

Based on what's out there now there is apparently no reason why anyone would NOT be able to get a fastpass for Space Mountain 30 days before their visit or change a time for it. Anna and Elsa, you'll have problems with that one, but but SM not so much. Most attractions just do not book up that quickly.

There might be problems doing it while you are standing in the park on the same day during a very crowded time, but not ahead of time.

But what about moving it to the preferred time? People seem to be chiding the OP for not getting the FP and then moving it. I just don't think it is that easy during the Christmas week. The OP says they tried to move it and couldn't. There are only two possibilities: 1) That is true; or 2) the OP is a liar.

 

[mom2rtk]

Surely it would. I may be mixing you up with other posters, but your posts seem to be more of the "negative statement" variety than the "curious about other experiences" variety.

It goes without saying that you are welcome to your opinion, however, in my opinion it doesn't really hold weight re: the effectiveness/usability of FP+ because you haven't even tried it. If your of the opinion that you don't want to try it then good for you, I'm glad that DL is working out for you. I'd love to visit DL someday too.

Oh, I'm sure you don't have me confused with someone else. I'm not a fan. But if we are going to try it (even for a brief stop as opposed to our annual week long trip) I need to be up to date on how to make the most of it.

I feel the way I do because no matter how it pans out in real life, it's still iffy whether you will get anything worthwhile over 3. 2 of the parks will still be tiered. And my odds of repeating rides with FP are much lower than they used to be. We rode California Screamin 9 times on our last trip to DLR. It's one of my daughter's favorite experiences from the trip. It doesn't take a trip to WDW to know my odds of doing that on RSR with FP+ are greatly reduced. Heck, if we want to ride TSMM we might not even get one FP for RSR.

 

[MakiraMarlena]

They didn't say when they tried to move it did they? I got the impression they tried to move it at the park, because maybe they didn't figure out until they got there that they didn't really want to wait around for the last one. Unless it was Anna/Elsa or 7DMT (I doubt it was a parade because you can't move those) then they should have been able to move it when they booked it, and to a time they would have wanted, unless it was the same day or maybe the same week.

But I don't think it matters. If you don't want to wait around for the last one, and you'd rather be in another park, leave, blow that one off, you don't HAVE to stick around. If you want to pull additional FPs in the second park just change it to a different attraction, anything that would expire quickly.

 

[ilovemk76]

But only if other times are available. Based on the threads that appear here, many seasoned veterans are on their computers exactly 60 days in advance at midnight (or 1:00 a.m.). Sure. At that time, you might be able to accept your plan and then make changes. People who stay off site or who do not stay up all night to plan their vacations? No so much. There have been lots of posts over the past 60 days telling us that FP+ availability for headliners has been tough to come by. Not a surprise. But it is one of biggest (if not the biggest) downside to FP+. With FP-, every one of the 100,000 people who got up in the morning with plans to go to the MK had a theoretical chance of getting a FP for Space Mountain. Not everyone wanted one, and not everyone would get one. But at 6:00 a.m., everyone's playing field was level. With FP+, about 70,000 of those people had no chance to get a FP+ for Space Mountain until 30 days before their visit. To them, the playing field was anything but level. And even if they could get one, the notion that they could simply change their time to a different time is ovely optimistic.

OP is DVC, so she was not one of the 30 day people.

I know people who go every year (a group of over 10) at this time. I am linked to them with in the app, since we sometimes overlap trips. They had their days packed to the early, including 3 or 4 7DMT FP+s. They did not get up at midnight to do it. They did stay onsite.

I still get the feeling the OP did not know how to change the times.

 

[JanaDee]

All well and good. Being pretty sure you won't like something you haven't tried is a little different than umpteen posts about the awfulness of the thing you haven't tried. If there was a discussion about recipes using cricket flour (it's a real thing) and I constantly talked about how disgusting it was and how it's basically the end of baked goods as we know it, yet I had never tried it...

Completely off topic, but DH and I were just discussing cricket flour yesterday. LOL

Back on topic, still not a FP+ fan and yes, I have used it - twice.

 

[ilovemk76]

That's the sort of information I continue to read these threads to find out. It really is a shame though that it has become a system where you have to research and know all the unpublished tidbits about to use fully to your advantage.

And they said legacy FP was hard to understand!

It is not hard for everybody, just a few on this board.

I have never had to research it. It was easy.

 

[mom2rtk]

They didn't say when they tried to move it did they? I got the impression they tried to move it at the park, because maybe they didn't figure out until they got there that they didn't really want to wait around for the last one. Unless it was Anna/Elsa or 7DMT (I doubt it was a parade because you can't move those) then they should have been able to move it when they booked it, and to a time they would have wanted, unless it was the same day or maybe the same week.

But I don't think it matters. If you don't want to wait around for the last one, and you'd rather be in another park, leave, blow that one off, you don't HAVE to stick around. If you want to pull additional FPs in the second park just change it to a different attraction, anything that would expire quickly.

I assumed it was for something they couldn't get a replacement FP for and didn't want to miss.

 

[ilovemk76]

Completely off topic, but DH and I were just discussing cricket flour yesterday. LOL

Back on topic, still not a FP+ fan and yes, I have used it - twice.

I have heard of cricket flour, but I will skip it fir now.

I can see how it could be a useful item for some.

 

[MakiraMarlena]

But if they didn't want to miss it then why did they want to go to another park? Because there was nothing left to do in the park they were in except that one attraction? If that's the case they may be saying they would have been able to do that attraction without waiting if the legacy FP had still been in place. I still don't know when they attempted to change the time on the third FP, they could have done that as soon as they booked it unless it was Anna and Elsa or maybe 7DMT, unless they didn't realize until they were there that they wouldn't have wanted to wait between attractions after all.

It's definitely not good for making last minute snap decisions if you are talking about popular attractions. But from what was posted it sounds like she knew they wanted all their FPs close together in the morning and were not able to book them that way, but without knowing which attraction was the last and whether they tried to move it before the day of I can't say whether that could have been fixed or not.

 

[momof2n2]

I don't wanna try cricket flour or FP+.

But chances are really good we'll give the latter a whirl WAY before the former. But just cuz I want my littlest girls to experience WDW like the big ones did.

Although - my four-year-old seems perfectly content with her perception that Rapunzel, Belle, Cindy, and Tiana live on a luxury ocean liner.