Kevin-Pillars of the Earth

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Kevin,

Thought you would find this interesting. I know you also have read Pillars of the Earth and really enjoyed it. I just saw on the local news that a town here in Texas, Cleburne (south of Fort Worth), is trying to get this book banned from the school. Apparently a High School teacher has had this book on her summer reading list for her Senior Class/College Level Reading class for years. It appears there are some parents that have decided this is an inappropriate book for college level reading student so read.
Amazing! Those are two of the best books I have ever read and I read A LOT! Thought you would find that interesting.
 
Far more eloquent men and women than I have said the following:


"If all printers were determined not to print anything till they were sure it would offend nobody, there would be very little printed." - Benjamin Franklin, 1730


"The books that the world calls immoral are books that show the world its own shame." - Oscar Wilde


"Think for yourselves and let others enjoy the privilege to do so, too." - Voltaire


"Books and ideas are the most effective weapons against intolerance and ignorance." -Lyndon Baines Johnson


"Censorship, like charity, should begin at home; but unlike charity, it should end there." - Clare Booth Luce


"Every burned book enlightens the world."- Ralph Waldo Emerson


"Censorship ends in logical completeness when nobody is allowed to read any books except the books that nobody reads." - George Bernard Shaw


"This is slavery, not to speak one's thought."- Euripides


"One man's vulgarity is another's lyric." - John Marshall Harlan, Supreme Court justice, 1971


"Censorship is telling a man he can't have a steak just because a baby can't chew it." - Mark Twain


"An idea that is not dangerous is unworthy of being called an idea at all." - Oscar Wilde


I will let them speak for me.
 

That's a great way to use reverse psychology.. ban the book from a bunch of young adults.

I love Ken Follett's novels. Amazing detail about history and people!
 
I loved Pillars of the Earth. Ken Follett makes history come alive. Wouldn't that be a trick making history interesting so students might want to read about it. I know it is a work of fiction but gives so much detail about that time period in England.
Debbie
 
Pillars of the Earth is my all time favorite book! Ken Follett gives the reader enough information to make you feel like you are there but not so much that you need a nap. I felt like I was traveling with Tom the Builder... I read this book to my six-year-old daughter over several months last year and her favorite part was when the pig got stolen.
 
You have such a way with words Kevin. I have ordered this book and will be reading it soon.

Kim
 
There was a controversy in our state capital a couple of years ago when some parents attempted to ban a couple of Pat Conroy's novels from the AP English curriculum. Pat Conroy wrote to the local newspaper. His letter follows:

A Letter to the Editor of the Charleston Gazette:

I received an urgent e-mail from a high school student named Makenzie Hatfield of Charleston, West Virginia. She informed me of a group of parents who were attempting to suppress the teaching of two of my novels, “The Prince of Tides” and “Beach Music.” I heard rumors of this controversy as I was completing my latest filthy, vomit-inducing work. These controversies are so commonplace in my life that I no longer get involved. But my knowledge of mountain lore is strong enough to know the dangers of refusing to help a Hatfield of West Virginia. I also do not mess with McCoys.

I’ve enjoyed a lifetime love affair with English teachers, just like the ones who are being abused in Charleston, West Virginia, today. My English teachers pushed me to be smart and inquisitive, and they taught me the great books of the world with passion and cunning and love. Like your English teachers, they didn’t have any money, either, but they lived in the bright fires of their imaginations, and they taught because they were born to teach the prettiest language in the world. I have yet to meet an English teacher who assigned a book to damage a kid. They take an unutterable joy in opening up the known world to their students, but they are dishonored and unpraised because of the scandalous paychecks they receive. In my travels around this country, I have discovered that America hates its teachers, and I could not tell you why. Charleston, West Virginia, is showing clear signs of really hurting theirs, and I would be cautious about the word getting out.

In 1961, I entered the classroom of the great Eugene Norris, who set about in a thousand ways to change my life. It was the year I read “Catcher in the Rye,” under Gene’s careful tutelage, and I adore that book to this very day. Later, a parent complained to the school board, and Gene Norris was called before the board to defend his teaching of this book. He asked me to write an essay describing the book’s galvanic effect on me, which I did. But Gene’s defense of “Catcher in the Rye” was so brilliant and convincing in its sheer power that it carried the day. I stayed close to Gene Norris till the day he died. I delivered a eulogy at his memorial service and was one of the executors of his will. Few in the world have ever loved English teachers as I have, and I loathe it when they are bullied by know-nothing parents or cowardly school boards. About the novels your county just censored: “The Prince of Tides” and “Beach Music” are two of my darlings, which I would place before the altar of God and say, “Lord, this is how I found the world you made.” They contain scenes of violence, but I was the son of a Marine Corps fighter pilot who killed hundreds of men in Korea, beat my mother and his seven kids whenever he felt like it, and fought in three wars. My youngest brother, Tom, committed suicide by jumping off a fourteen-story building; my French teacher ended her life with a pistol; my aunt was brutally raped in Atlanta; eight of my classmates at The Citadel were killed in Vietnam; and my best friend was killed in a car wreck in Mississippi last summer. Violence has always been a part of my world. I write about it in my books and make no apology to anyone. In “Beach Music,” I wrote about the Holocaust and lack the literary powers to make that historical event anything other than grotesque.

People cuss in my books. People cuss in my real life. I cuss, especially at Citadel basketball games. I’m perfectly sure that Steve Shamblin and other teachers prepared their students well for any encounters with violence or profanity in my books just as Gene Norris prepared me for the profane language in “Catcher in the Rye” forty-eight years ago.

The world of literature has everything in it, and it refuses to leave anything out. I have read like a man on fire my whole life because the genius of English teachers touched me with the dazzling beauty of language. Because of them I rode with Don Quixote and danced with Anna Karenina at a ball in St. Petersburg and lassoed a steer in “Lonesome Dove” and had nightmares about slavery in “Beloved” and walked the streets of Dublin in “Ulysses” and made up a hundred stories in the Arabian nights and saw my mother killed by a baseball in “A Prayer for Owen Meany.” I’ve been in ten thousand cities and have introduced myself to a hundred thousand strangers in my exuberant reading career, all because I listened to my fabulous English teachers and soaked up every single thing those magnificent men and women had to give. I cherish and praise them and thank them for finding me when I was a boy and presenting me with the precious gift of the English language.

The school board of Charleston, West Virginia, has sullied that gift and shamed themselves and their community. You’ve now entered the ranks of censors, book-banners, and teacher-haters, and the word will spread. Good teachers will avoid you as though you had cholera. But here is my favorite thing: Because you banned my books, every kid in that county will read them, every single one of them. Because book banners are invariably idiots, they don’t know how the world works — but writers and English teachers do.

I salute the English teachers of Charleston, West Virginia, and send my affection to their students. West Virginians, you’ve just done what history warned you against — you’ve riled a Hatfield.

Sincerely,

Pat Conroy
 
The Pillars of the Earth is an amazing piece of literature..

This whole thing reminds me of a hilarious quote that I read once forgive me if this is paraphrased but I am too lazy to search for it....

"why can't a democrat get fired up about protecting the environment and enacting gun control legislation just as right wing republicans get fired up about making sure that children have access to assault weapons and banning 'the catcher in the rye' and 'harry potter'? " - Moby

I find the book banning reference to be relevant to this post, plus like I said before quite humorous.

Isn't this the same State in which a parent and student attempted to have Fahrenheit 451 banned? That's some ironic stuff right there :lmao:
 
There was a controversy in our state capital a couple of years ago when some parents attempted to ban a couple of Pat Conroy's novels from the AP English curriculum. Pat Conroy wrote to the local newspaper. His letter follows:

A Letter to the Editor of the Charleston Gazette:

I received an urgent e-mail from a high school student named Makenzie Hatfield of Charleston, West Virginia. She informed me of a group of parents who were attempting to suppress the teaching of two of my novels, “The Prince of Tides” and “Beach Music.” I heard rumors of this controversy as I was completing my latest filthy, vomit-inducing work. These controversies are so commonplace in my life that I no longer get involved. But my knowledge of mountain lore is strong enough to know the dangers of refusing to help a Hatfield of West Virginia. I also do not mess with McCoys.

I’ve enjoyed a lifetime love affair with English teachers, just like the ones who are being abused in Charleston, West Virginia, today. My English teachers pushed me to be smart and inquisitive, and they taught me the great books of the world with passion and cunning and love. Like your English teachers, they didn’t have any money, either, but they lived in the bright fires of their imaginations, and they taught because they were born to teach the prettiest language in the world. I have yet to meet an English teacher who assigned a book to damage a kid. They take an unutterable joy in opening up the known world to their students, but they are dishonored and unpraised because of the scandalous paychecks they receive. In my travels around this country, I have discovered that America hates its teachers, and I could not tell you why. Charleston, West Virginia, is showing clear signs of really hurting theirs, and I would be cautious about the word getting out.

In 1961, I entered the classroom of the great Eugene Norris, who set about in a thousand ways to change my life. It was the year I read “Catcher in the Rye,” under Gene’s careful tutelage, and I adore that book to this very day. Later, a parent complained to the school board, and Gene Norris was called before the board to defend his teaching of this book. He asked me to write an essay describing the book’s galvanic effect on me, which I did. But Gene’s defense of “Catcher in the Rye” was so brilliant and convincing in its sheer power that it carried the day. I stayed close to Gene Norris till the day he died. I delivered a eulogy at his memorial service and was one of the executors of his will. Few in the world have ever loved English teachers as I have, and I loathe it when they are bullied by know-nothing parents or cowardly school boards. About the novels your county just censored: “The Prince of Tides” and “Beach Music” are two of my darlings, which I would place before the altar of God and say, “Lord, this is how I found the world you made.” They contain scenes of violence, but I was the son of a Marine Corps fighter pilot who killed hundreds of men in Korea, beat my mother and his seven kids whenever he felt like it, and fought in three wars. My youngest brother, Tom, committed suicide by jumping off a fourteen-story building; my French teacher ended her life with a pistol; my aunt was brutally raped in Atlanta; eight of my classmates at The Citadel were killed in Vietnam; and my best friend was killed in a car wreck in Mississippi last summer. Violence has always been a part of my world. I write about it in my books and make no apology to anyone. In “Beach Music,” I wrote about the Holocaust and lack the literary powers to make that historical event anything other than grotesque.

People cuss in my books. People cuss in my real life. I cuss, especially at Citadel basketball games. I’m perfectly sure that Steve Shamblin and other teachers prepared their students well for any encounters with violence or profanity in my books just as Gene Norris prepared me for the profane language in “Catcher in the Rye” forty-eight years ago.

The world of literature has everything in it, and it refuses to leave anything out. I have read like a man on fire my whole life because the genius of English teachers touched me with the dazzling beauty of language. Because of them I rode with Don Quixote and danced with Anna Karenina at a ball in St. Petersburg and lassoed a steer in “Lonesome Dove” and had nightmares about slavery in “Beloved” and walked the streets of Dublin in “Ulysses” and made up a hundred stories in the Arabian nights and saw my mother killed by a baseball in “A Prayer for Owen Meany.” I’ve been in ten thousand cities and have introduced myself to a hundred thousand strangers in my exuberant reading career, all because I listened to my fabulous English teachers and soaked up every single thing those magnificent men and women had to give. I cherish and praise them and thank them for finding me when I was a boy and presenting me with the precious gift of the English language.

The school board of Charleston, West Virginia, has sullied that gift and shamed themselves and their community. You’ve now entered the ranks of censors, book-banners, and teacher-haters, and the word will spread. Good teachers will avoid you as though you had cholera. But here is my favorite thing: Because you banned my books, every kid in that county will read them, every single one of them. Because book banners are invariably idiots, they don’t know how the world works — but writers and English teachers do.

I salute the English teachers of Charleston, West Virginia, and send my affection to their students. West Virginians, you’ve just done what history warned you against — you’ve riled a Hatfield.

Sincerely,

Pat Conroy

Thanks for sharing that. Awesome letter.

My Mom talks about going to the movies when she was a kid. She tells of a Church organization that either approved or disapporoved of movies.

She remembers that this group banned the movie Gilda starrring Rita Hayworth and that all children were forbidden from seeing that movie. She says that she didnt even care for Rita Hayworth movies, but once it was "banned", that she and every kid she knew paid to see Gilda to see what the big deal was.

Several years ago....she and I found Gilda in a movie rental place and we watched it. It's funny to think something as harmless as Rita Hayworth removing her gloves was once the cause of such alarm.

My point in telling this story is the same as Mr. Conroy's. Banning a book will have exactly the opposite effect that these parents are hoping. It's going to make everyone want to read these books.

It amazes me that things like this continue to happen.
 
Kevin,
The librarians of the world love you! Thanks and keep sharing your rightfully smart attitude.
Lyn (a librarian)
 
Well, although I live in the Chicagoland area and have no fear of the book being banned, I ran right out yesterday and bought the book. I lost 5lbs just carrying it home! That's one big book. :laughing:

I am going to embark on my journey today!! Thanks for the book recommendation. I've been wanting to "get lost" in good book for a while now!
 
I live about 20 min north of Cleburne.
Here is an update on the school board meeting

http://www.cleburnetimesreview.com/education/local_story_040234038.html?keyword=topstory


What do you think?

Brittany Spears has / had major issues.

16 year old Miley Cyrus is dating a 22 year old.

Lindsay Lohan is apparently having a lesbian affair and her own addiction issues.

Michael Phelps is allegedly hitting a bong.

Alex Rodriquez admits to using steroids.

These things bombard everyone from almost every news outlet every day of every week and yet parents are concerned about a passage buried deep in a 1200 page historical novel.

I cant speak to 17 and 18 year olds in Texas but its my guess that the majority of them know of at least one teenage pregnancy, somebody who has been abused and / or raped and many kids who use drugs.

These are young adults approaching the age where they can go to war.

I am not advocating that anyone vuew or read obvious pornography if that is their choice, but to sift through 1200 pages of literature about the building of a cathedral to find the titllating passages seems immature and ludicrous.

This is not protecting young minds in my opinion. This is denying them the opportunity to learn and grow.
 
Brittany Spears has / had major issues.

16 year old Miley Cyrus is dating a 22 year old.

Lindsay Lohan is apparently having a lesbian affair and her own addiction issues.

Michael Phelps is allegedly hitting a bong.

Alex Rodriquez admits to using steroids.

These things bombard everyone from almost every news outlet every day of every week and yet parents are concerned about a passage buried deep in a 1200 page historical novel.

I cant speak to 17 and 18 year olds in Texas but its my guess that the majority of them know of at least one teenage pregnancy, somebody who has been abused and / or raped and many kids who use drugs.

These are young adults approaching the age where they can go to war.

I am not advocating that anyone vuew or read obvious pornography if that is their choice, but to sift through 1200 pages of literature about the building of a cathedral to find the titllating passages seems immature and ludicrous.

This is not protecting young minds in my opinion. This is denying them the opportunity to learn and grow.

Kevin, I agree with you.

We read Les Miserables in my sophomore year in high school. If you remember Fantine, who is a single mother, becomes a prostitute to feed her daughter, Cosette. Pretty scandalous, but I still claim that reading that book was one of the most influential periods of my young life in high school. I think that experiencing good literature expands the mind in a positive way, and helps you understand humanity better.
 














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