Originally posted by peachgirl
Since he says he will not give other countries veto power over the safety of the U.S., it's not hard to figure out, that if need be, he would go it alone. It's also not too hard to figure out why Bush had so much trouble getting a significant coalition together....HE WAS LYING.
The difference is that he doesn't start out with the lone cowboy attitude that Bush does and is much more likely to convince our allies to join us, much as Bush's father did. I expect Kerry to be much more effective in dealing with foreign countries than kick *** George is.
Bush Jr would have done well to learn a thing or two about diplomacy from his father.
First, who in the world is Bush, Jr?
The more Kerry and those supporting him repeat this "lie" mantra, the more ridiculous and intellecutually dishonest you sound. To believe this one would have to beleive the UN, the UK, Eqypt, Jordan, Germany, Russian, Australia, France, Spain, Poland, Clinton, Kerry himself, Gore, Kennedy, Daschle, Gephardt, Lieberman, Edwards, (shall I go on?) were in on the lie. Pretty incredible consiracy if you ask me. Shall we again bother to list those in the Clinton administration (including Clinton himself) that said Saddam's WMD's were a threat? Not wanting to embarrass you position or anything, but I would like to see someone explain those comments against this "lie" theory. At least try.
Second, okay, no stockpiles of WMD were found (doesn't mean they never exisited). We can harp on this all we want, but at this point it is now irrelevant. We are in Iraq, we can't change that. So, the question is, what is Kerry's plan to deal with that. Saying that he would have done it differently doesn't tell me jack! Doesn't tell me what he will do. Hell, I would have chosen different Powerball numbers knowing what I know now.
And, given that France, Germany and Russia were on the take (talking about knowing then what we know now!) and are on record as saying they won't commit troops and given that Kerry has acknowledged that, what is Kerry left with as far a a coalition goes? Oh, that's right. We won't know his plan unitl Jan 20th.
KERRY: Well, Don, I realize that, but the fact is that the president is the president. I mean, what you ought to be doing and what everybody in America ought to be doing today is not asking me; they ought to be asking the president, What is your plan? What's your plan, Mr. President, to stop these kids from being killed? What's your plan, Mr. President, to get the other countries in there? What's your plan to have 90 percent of the casualties and 90 percent of the cost being carried by America? I mean, he is the president today, and we have given him advice from day one; from day one, from the floor of the Senate when we debated it where I said don't -- you know, you've got to have other countries with you, don't make an end runaround the U.N., the difficulty is not winning the military, it's winning the peace; and he ignored it. And others -- the bipartisan, D!ck Lugar, the chairman of the Foreign Relations Committee, and Joe Biden, and the Foreign Relations Committee gave him advice that he chose to ignore. And since then, many times we've stood up and said, "Mr. President, this is what you have to do." He's chosen not to do those things.
(From his interview on the Imus show)
KERRY: Well, Don, I realize that, but the fact is that the president is the president. I mean, what you ought to be doing and what everybody in America ought to be doing today is not asking me; they ought to be asking the president, What is your plan? What's your plan, Mr. President, to stop these kids from being killed? What's your plan, Mr. President, to get the other countries in there? What's your plan to have 90 percent of the casualties and 90 percent of the cost being carried by America? I mean, he is the president today, and we have given him advice from day one; from day one, from the floor of the Senate when we debated it where I said don't -- you know, you've got to have other countries with you, don't make an end runaround the U.N., the difficulty is not winning the military, it's winning the peace; and he ignored it. And others -- the bipartisan, D!ck Lugar, the chairman of the Foreign Relations Committee, and Joe Biden, and the Foreign Relations Committee gave him advice that he chose to ignore. And since then, many times we've stood up and said, "Mr. President, this is what you have to do." He's chosen not to do those things.
IMUS: We're asking you because you want to be president.
KERRY: That's correct. But I can't...
IMUS: He's not going to answer any questions.
KERRY: I can't tell you what I'm going to find on the ground on January 20th.
