Kerry criticizes election outcome

[WWTBAMFAN]

This issue has much more do than with illegal votes. But, I could not expect you to know that, what with your limited information and background on the issue.

I am so glad that I sent my contribution into the DNC to fund the recount in Washington. This was a two-fer in that the money was sent back to the party because the democrats won the recount. Without the funding of the recount by the party, all of this fun would never have come out. :jumping4:
dmadman you are so clueless about the real issues in this dispute that it is sad. You have no sources for your assertions which sounds like you are getting your information from either the Free Republic (or the Washington state equilavent) or from rumors from people who also do not understand what is going on.

I am looking forward to hearing how the Feb 4 hearing goes. I will also do my best the get copies of the briefs in this case because they will make very interesting reading. Obviously the democratic brief on the Washington Legislature beiing the exclusive forum for election contests for Governor must have been pretty good if the Rossi camp immediatedly filed an election contest with the legislature after reading that brief.

 

[wvrevy]

Speaking for myself, I'm not against a federal takeover, however I don't see how it can possibly be done without a Constitutional amendment. And on that same track, I don't see any way that the states will ever agree to give up the power that they have to run their own elections. So to me, it's a matter of sure it would be nice, but I don't see it ever happening.

The election process is outlined in the constitution already, so I don't see why an amendment would be necessary. As the system stands, there is NO way of guaranteeing that any given election is fair and that the count of votes is accurate. Hell, during this last election alone there is plenty of circumstantial evidence to suggest widespread cheating. So why are Repugnicans (and I use that word to distinguish between honest-to-god conservatives and people like...well, I won't say "like" who, since I don't want to directly insult someone on this thread)...why are these lowlifes opposed to the idea of federal oversight ? If, as the poster at the beginning of this said, the good little shee..er..conservatives...have come out to expose all us darndirtycommieliberals as cheaters, then why is it the RIGHT that fights against transparency in elections ?

 

[Laura]

dmadman you are so clueless about the real issues in this dispute that it is sad. You have no sources for your assertions which sounds like you are getting your information from either the Free Republic (or the Washington state equilavent) or from rumors from people who also do not understand what is going on.

 

[peachgirl]

Ok, I haven't even begun to read this entire thread, but somebody make it easy for me...

Is what we have here a Republican whining about election results and wanting a recount???

If so......

 

[ThAnswr]

Ok, I haven't even begun to read this entire thread, but somebody make it easy for me...

Is what we have here a Republican whining about election results and wanting a recount???

If so......

The usual cliches apply:

Payback is a *****.
What goes around, comes around.
Hoisted by your own petard.

Talk about poetic justice. LOL.

 

[WWTBAMFAN]

dmadman

It was not very hard but I found your non-Main Stream Media source that you are so proud of. See http://www.soundpolitics.com/ After all of your nasty comments about bloggers and you are relying on a blogger to back up your claims. Your source is a computer geek doing his analysis on his own when he is not doing an interesting pro-Israel blog.

I was hoping that you actually had access to the expert witness reports or something real about the facts in this case. After reading his reports, I really hope that Dino uses this blogger as his expert witness at trial. This guy would be ripped into little pieces on the stand.

I am really looking forward to reading the briefs in this case. One of the election law sites wiil hopefully post these briefs soon. The Democratic brief on the Washington legilslature as the sole and exclusive forum to hear an election challenge must have been very good given the fact that Dino the sore loserman immediatedly filed an election challenge in the Washington legislature after seeing the brief. Feb. 4 may be a fun day. If nothing else, this case is going to be in the courts so long that the duly elective governor of the State of Washington will be up for re-election before this case is decided.

 

[dmadman43]

dmadman

It was not very hard but I found your non-Main Stream Media source that you are so proud of. See http://www.soundpolitics.com/ After all of your nasty comments about bloggers and you are relying on a blogger to back up your claims. Your source is a computer geek doing his analysis on his own when he is not doing an interesting pro-Israel blog.

I was hoping that you actually had access to the expert witness reports or something real about the facts in this case. After reading his reports, I really hope that Dino uses this blogger as his expert witness at trial. This guy would be ripped into little pieces on the stand.

I am really looking forward to reading the briefs in this case. One of the election law sites wiil hopefully post these briefs soon. The Democratic brief on the Washington legilslature as the sole and exclusive forum to hear an election challenge must have been very good given the fact that Dino the sore loserman immediatedly filed an election challenge in the Washington legislature after seeing the brief. Feb. 4 may be a fun day. If nothing else, this case is going to be in the courts so long that the duly elective governor of the State of Washington will be up for re-election before this case is decided.

The attorney that contrubutes to that site, we are all on the same research team. . I work with that attorney that runs that site.

You continue to be misinformed about the goals of the suit.

 

[dmadman43]

Ok, I haven't even begun to read this entire thread, but somebody make it easy for me...

Is what we have here a Republican whining about election results and wanting a recount???

If so......

Again, no. This is not what the suit in Washington is about in the long run. It is actually about accomplishing your goals of election reform. If Rossi gets a re-vote, great. But, I think he realizes the best thing is for Gregoire to fail as a governor, given that the majority of the state doesn't feel she legitimately won. The overaching goal is to get reform the election process in WA. I mean, why do you think our team keeps focusing on the inconsistencies in the hand recount? It's to point out the obvious incompetencies involved in the recount process and in the ballot counting process. Thus suit is a vehicle to bring about change. But, flkhou is too short-sighted and small-minded to see that.

It is amusing to see flkhou get sucked in, though. Muhammed Ali's "rope-a-dope" strategy comes to mind.

 

[wvrevy]

Again, no. This is not what the suit in Washington is about in the long run. It is actually about accomplishing your goals of election reform...........(blahblahblah)

So, when the Dems challenge, it's "whining", but when the Repugs challenge, it's "attempting to achieve election reform"...lol

 

[BuckNaked]

The election process is outlined in the constitution already, so I don't see why an amendment would be necessary.

Yes it is outlined in the Constitution, and it says that the states have the right to determine how the Presidential electors will be chosen. How do you think it would be possible for the federal government to dictate uniform voting methods to the states without an amendment?

 

[dmadman43]

Yes it is outlined in the Constitution, and it says that the states have the right to determine how the Presidential electors will be chosen. How do you think it would be possible for the federal government to dictate uniform voting methods to the states without an amendment?

Exactly. Today this has to be solved at the state level. There has to be motivation, and $$$ for them to do it. Hopefully what is happening in Washington State will allow the powers that be to wake up and implement some consistent election processes across the state there is litte room for doubt about how the votes were counted. That's the broad long-term goal of our suit. Otherwise, it could happen again in 2008