Keeping Ukraine in our thoughts and prayers here

[Southernmiss]

Putin seems to be itching for a fight...planes "accidentally" violating Swedish airspace, missiles 25 miles from the Polish border.

I agree.

Once Ukraine put up more fight than he anticipated, he's taunting other nations to get involved.

I hate to say it, but he'd love to use his nukes.

He must be stopped. Don't know how, but he must be stopped.

 

[dvcgirl67]

I agree.

Once Ukraine put up more fight than he anticipated, he's taunting other nations to get involved.

I hate to say it, but he'd love to use his nukes.

He must be stopped. Don't know how, but he must be stopped.

I don't see how this is going to end. He's continuing to escalate with no clear way out. The best case scenario at this point seems to be many thousands dying at Putin's hand in Ukraine with a population that will continue to rise up and fight from within.

I worry very much now about lines being crossed that will force NATOs hand...and that we'll be fighting WWIII. Maybe "mistakenly" firing over a border and hitting a NATO country. Maybe using chemical/biological weapons. It just seems like Putin has a death wish at this point. He's cutting off his country from most of the world......it's utter madness. We're only a couple of weeks into this thing.

 

[penn19]

Putin seems to be itching for a fight...planes "accidentally" violating Swedish airspace, missiles 25 miles from the Polish border.

I think it’s not a matter of if, it’s a matter of when we get involved.

 

[punkin]

I don't see how this is going to end. He's continuing to escalate with no clear way out. The best case scenario at this point seems to be many thousands dying at Putin's hand in Ukraine with a population that will continue to rise up and fight from within.

I worry very much now about lines being crossed that will force NATOs hand...and that we'll be fighting WWIII. Maybe "mistakenly" firing over a border and hitting a NATO country. Maybe using chemical/biological weapons. It just seems like Putin has a death wish at this point. He's cutting off his country from most of the world......it's utter madness. We're only a couple of weeks into this thing.

He apparently just asked China for help?#$^
This will not end well.

 

[pigletto]

Putin seems to be itching for a fight...planes "accidentally" violating Swedish airspace, missiles 25 miles from the Polish border.

My husband keeps saying it feels an awful lot like he’s baiting the USA. But what’s the end game ?
Here’s my fear after doing some research on things like the situation for the last several years in Venezuela. Conflicts with Iran, the conflict in Syria etc.

I’m worried that a man like Putin doesn’t bait the USA and her allies unless he’s got some powerful allies too. What agreements could he have with China that we don’t know about? What about other countries like Iran? I don’t think he makes the bold moves he’s making without some sense of surety that he has powerful allies himself.

I’m almost not as concerned about nuclear wars because that sets off a chain of events that guarantees destruction for him as well. But I do worry with all of this “baiting” that he’s trying to draw America into a full conflict. Call me crazy ( and I would love to be wrong) but I think we are very very close to another world war ..if we aren’t already there.

 

[Ms.Minnie]

First, I want to say I haven't read all 23 pages of this thread, I apologize for that.

Has anyone asked the following? Where's the UN on this? IMHO the UN needs to get involved; both Russia and Ukraine are part of the UN but Russia isn't acting like a member in good faith. They have attacked another member country unprovoked and are killing innocent people. The UN should be sending in their soldiers to assist the Ukraine in this fight. What good is it to have this organization if they don't do anything in times like this? It doesn't seem to me that they do much other then cost tax payers a lot of money and give the diplomats and their families diplomatic immunity so they can take advantage of other countries while they are there.

 

[DisneyMomx7]

Unfortunately Russia has veto power in the UN.

 

[seshat0120]

Has anyone asked the following? Where's the UN on this? IMHO the UN needs to get involved; both Russia and Ukraine are part of the UN but Russia isn't acting like a member in good faith. They have attacked another member country unprovoked and are killing innocent people. The UN should be sending in their soldiers to assist the Ukraine in this fight. What good is it to have this organization if they don't do anything in times like this? It doesn't seem to me that they do much other then cost tax payers a lot of money and give the diplomats and their families diplomatic immunity so they can take advantage of other countries while they are there.

First, the UN does not have a standing military. UN peacekeeping troops are first and foremost members of their own nation's military that are then seconded to work for the UN.

The following is from the UN's website:
https://peacekeeping.un.org/en/military
"The UN can only deploy military personnel when there is a UN Security Council resolution authorizing them to do so. The Security Council will say how many military personnel are required, and UN Headquarters will liaise with the Member States to identify personnel and deploy them. This can take time – often more than six months from the date of the resolution to get boots and equipment on the ground."

Russia is one of the five member states with a permanent presence on the UN Security Council. The other four permanent members of the UN Security Council are the US, France, Great Britain and China. The five permanent members can unilaterally veto a UN Security Council resolution.

Even if Russia didn't veto a Security Council resolution to send UN Peacekeepers, it would still take time to liase with member states and get boots on the ground.

The article found here on the UN's website (https://news.un.org/en/story/2022/03/1113722) dated March 10 details the humanitarian aid the UN has provided.

 

[HeatherC]

We need a secret black ops team to take him out! This is just so horrific and heartbreaking to watch.

 

[punkin]

Unfortunately Russia has veto power in the UN.

In the security council. Yes.

 

[punkin]

We need a secret black ops team to take him out! This is just so horrific and heartbreaking to watch.

That's movie stuff

 

[BrianL]

We need a secret black ops team to take him out! This is just so horrific and heartbreaking to watch.

The problem is that if that were to happen it would only strengthen his position with his people that he is doing what is right and the evil West is out for them. He'd be a martyr to his own narrative. Change like that can only come from within Russia.

 

[punkin]

I can't see this ending well for Ukraine. It won't end well for Russia either, but Ukraine will be devastated.

 

[Pea-n-Me]

Op here. I share the sadness and bewilderment with some of these issues, for sure. But a reminder that we don’t want this thread to get overly political. Thank you. And thank you to the Mods for allowing this to stay open and giving us a place to discuss at least some of our thoughts about the situation.

 

[Neapolitan Ice Cream]

$1 million bounty on Vladimir Putin's head

Link

 

[Neapolitan Ice Cream]

TBH, I'm scared of WWIII . Putin is a madman and is itching for a fight. This is gonna end messy.

 

[Ms.Minnie]

First, the UN does not have a standing military. UN peacekeeping troops are first and foremost members of their own nation's military that are then seconded to work for the UN.

The following is from the UN's website:
https://peacekeeping.un.org/en/military
"The UN can only deploy military personnel when there is a UN Security Council resolution authorizing them to do so. The Security Council will say how many military personnel are required, and UN Headquarters will liaise with the Member States to identify personnel and deploy them. This can take time – often more than six months from the date of the resolution to get boots and equipment on the ground."

Russia is one of the five member states with a permanent presence on the UN Security Council. The other four permanent members of the UN Security Council are the US, France, Great Britain and China. The five permanent members can unilaterally veto a UN Security Council resolution.

Even if Russia didn't veto a Security Council resolution to send UN Peacekeepers, it would still take time to liase with member states and get boots on the ground.

The article found here on the UN's website (https://news.un.org/en/story/2022/03/1113722) dated March 10 details the humanitarian aid the UN has provided.

Yes I'm aware that the soldiers or troops as you like to say come from the nations that make up the UN.

It sounds like changes should be made to the rules that the UN runs by. They also need to learn how to expedite their actions. This is so typical of a bureaucratic agency tied down by so many formalities, rules and regulations, they can't get out of their own way to get anything done in a timely manner. The situation in Ukraine is dire and needs to be handled accordingly.

 

[Pea-n-Me]

Yes I'm aware that the soldiers or troops as you like to say come from the nations that make up the UN.

It sounds like changes should be made to the rules that the UN runs by. They also need to learn how to expedite their actions. This is so typical of a bureaucratic agency tied down by so many formalities, rules and regulations, they can't get out of their own way to get anything done in a timely manner. The situation in Ukraine is dire and needs to be handled accordingly.

This thread is not for this type of conversation.

 

[Tuffcookie]

I hope China doesn’t want to hitch their wagon to this madman.

TC

 

[punkin]

I hope China doesn’t want to hitch their wagon to this madman.

TC

He really is mad if he's asking China for help. China is already more influential than Russia in places like Kazakhstan and Tajikistan. They're breathing down Russia's neck from the east and the madman just opened a western front for no good reason.