Katie Holmes to have a "silent birth"?

[Maleficent13]

Should there be threads going on about the "wacky" practices of other religions too.

I think there already is one...something about stealing sheep...

 

[meandtheguys2]

I guess I am just missing where they came up with the Science part. Connecting normal speaking with trauma.

I could have survived the quiet birth, because I am quiet when I concentrate...but there would be no chance I wouldn't talk to my baby. I could never survive in a cult. Pure and simple. Following stupid rules has never been my cup of tea.

 

[froglady]

I take it that Lamaze isn't allowed? Hard to be a coach if you can't talk.

 

[MerryPoppins]

I read that babies can recognize their mothers voice after they are born, because they heard it in the womb. I remember when both my girls were babies, that they would be fussy, and others would try to soothe them. Nothing worked until I talked to them. They would calm down on the spot. I would think not allowing it to hear it's mother's voice after coming out into a new, cold world would be cruel.

My DS had some health issues when he was born. We weren't able to hold him the first few days. Our only contact with him was when we went to the neonatal ICU to talk to him. The nurses told me to watch the numbers on his machines when I started to visit with him. Without even touching him, just my voice would make his breathing slow down and his oxygen rate go up. It didn't happen when a nurse would talk, only mom. So my voice had a calming effect.

How can it be that being silent for a week would be good if it is actually calming and reassuring? My kids both came home from the hospital used to lots of noise. We didn't sneak around, but made our usual noises. I think they're both pretty normal. I even played a radio in the nursery. I'd think if you didn't even talk for a week, they'd start waking up if you made the slightest noise. Not great if you ask me.

 

[ReadingBelle]

This is perhaps the weirdest thing I have ever heard. I feel bad for Katie. Someday she is going to wake up and see how bizarre this is. Unfortunately, now that Tom's the father of her kid it will be pretty hard to get away from him -- they'll always have shared responsibility for the child. Yeesh.

 

[Queen Quinnella]

Aren't you not even supposed to touch the child for 7 days too??

 

[wvrevy]

Hey...have you heard about that cult that dunks their babies in water after they're born ? These freaks seem to think that they are "washing away the baby's sins", if you can believe that ! As if an innocent baby could possibly have committed any sins. I mean, come ON.

I think they call it something like "babe-tism" or something like that. Just flat out looney if you ask me.

/sarcasm

Lesson: One man's religion is another man's belly laugh. Just keep in mind that a lot of us are laughing at your beliefs at the same time.

 

[va32h]

Lesson: One man's religion is another man's belly laugh. Just keep in mind that a lot of us are laughing at your beliefs at the same time.

Feel free to laugh. It won't bother me. Episcopalians are a hoot, just ask us!

 

[erinz]

Silent birth?........

 

[bjgrazi]

I think Scientology is a bizarre and freakish cult, and deserves zero respect and I feel no compunction about criticizing them.

I agree, it's not a religion, it's a cult.

 

[kidshop]

Hey...have you heard about that cult that dunks their babies in water after they're born ? These freaks seem to think that they are "washing away the baby's sins", if you can believe that ! As if an innocent baby could possibly have committed any sins. I mean, come ON.

I think they call it something like "babe-tism" or something like that. Just flat out looney if you ask me.

/sarcasm

Lesson: One man's religion is another man's belly laugh. Just keep in mind that a lot of us are laughing at your beliefs at the same time.

So pouring water over a baby's head for 30 seconds is equal in craziness to not speaking to a newborn 7 days after birth? You have to have a scale here to properly judge.

I have no problem with you laughing at me for my beliefs. It doesn't threaten me at all.

 

[Maleficent13]

Go ahead and laugh at my beliefs or lack thereof. Whatever floats your boat.

 

[wvrevy]

Feel free to laugh. It won't bother me. Episcopalians are a hoot, just ask us!

My point was simply that every religion - and I'm not entirely certain I'd classify Scientology as a religion, based on the little I know about it - looks moronic from the outside. Gods impregnating worshippers...people rising from the dead...a man living inside of a whale...a man who can perform magic tricks that are supposed to be real...voices from the gods speaking through burning shrubbery...

The entire Christian religion is just as dumb looking, for those that aren't a part of it. The same could be said of any religion man has ever invented, from volcano and elemental worship to the most complex and ritualistic. That being the case, my final point was that it might, in some circles, be considered rude to make fun of someone else's religion.

 

[imsorry]

When, oh when will they give us that popcorn smiley??

 

[Maleficent13]

It might, in some circles, also be considered rude to make fun of someone else's political beliefs, or their intelligence. I suppose it depends on what circles you run in.

But, if I offended any scientologists, then I apologize. I promise to try to confine my to my own living room.

 

[DisneyPhD]

My DS had some health issues when he was born. We weren't able to hold him the first few days. Our only contact with him was when we went to the neonatal ICU to talk to him. The nurses told me to watch the numbers on his machines when I started to visit with him. Without even touching him, just my voice would make his breathing slow down and his oxygen rate go up. It didn't happen when a nurse would talk, only mom. So my voice had a calming effect.

How can it be that being silent for a week would be good if it is actually calming and reassuring? My kids both came home from the hospital used to lots of noise. We didn't sneak around, but made our usual noises. I think they're both pretty normal. I even played a radio in the nursery. I'd think if you didn't even talk for a week, they'd start waking up if you made the slightest noise. Not great if you ask me.

I agree with you, and I don't have that experince you did in the hospital, but ask any RN in a maternity ward and they will say just what you did. The sound of a parents voice is reasuring.

Not talking I think would do more harm then talking. Same with the possibility of not having physcial examination or treatment if needed.

 

[ADisneygirl]

The more I hear about Scientology, the weirder I think it is. If she can go through natural childbirth with no meds whatsoever AND remain silent, hats off to her because I couldn't do it, nor would I ever think it were necessary for anyone to do it.

 

[Lisa loves Pooh]

Ya, way better to have a deathly ill child than one that got a heel prick when they were born!

While necessary...my daughter had soooo many heel pricks..they went to a new heel...and then poor thing...tried to go back to teh other one. I was ready to heel prick the stupid doctor.

 

[chasbos]

My DD had her heel pricked so many times that after a while she did not even notice it anymore.

She was deathly sick and they did not know what was wrong with her, so they had to run tests and tests and tests.

It was when they resorted to taking out of her earlobe that I got queezy!

But they did diagnose her and she is fully recovered.

I was just trying to make a point that sometimes these things are necessary for the well being of the child. Regardless of your beliefs.

 

[Tinkbell]

I wish they would have a silent pregnancy!!!

I'm with you on that!