~ Kate Plus Eight ~

[OhMari]

Jon and Kate signed a contract with TLC.
This is probably why the judge goes along with Kate.
There is no way to break that contract, regardless who has custody.
Hopefully the contract is done soon, plus didn't Jon and Kate signed that contract without any legal representation. They thought TLC had their backs, which is hard to believe, that anyone would sign anything in show business without legal representation.
But then again, look at Kelly Clarkson, she was the first American Idol and Simon Cowell, owned her and every song she sang for 7 years. She got something like 40% of record sales.

Thanks guys
Can i just ask ...... just out of curiosity, what do we all think of the Duggars?
IMHO, they are throughly worse than kate When they first started out i liked them. Very humble, God-fearing folks ........... but what happened?? I feel that fame and money have gone to their heads and they appear to have lost all sense of the family values they originally held dear
Still watch their shows though

There is another thread on the DIS Community discussing the Duggar's.

 

[mhsjax]

Thanks guys Thats why it all seemed totally random then!!
Personally i dont think she uses her kids. I think she is a (now) single mother doing what she can to make ends meet and give those kids the best life she knows how. JMHO of course

Can i just ask ...... just out of curiosity, what do we all think of the Duggars?
IMHO, they are throughly worse than kate When they first started out i liked them. Very humble, God-fearing folks ........... but what happened?? I feel that fame and money have gone to their heads and they appear to have lost all sense of the family values they originally held dear
Still watch their shows though

IMHO, you have these two families backwards. I feel the Duggars are still more to their original values and Kate has completely lost her way and has become totally infatuated with the fame and fortune of being on TV.

 

[OhMari]

IMHO, you have these two families so backwards that I can't even begin to explain. I think you need to watch Kate more closely. She uses those kids for everything. Sure she has to provide for them, but they are her meal ticket to fame. I guarantee you that if someone gave her a high powered job in which she actually had to work 40 hours in a office with no free trips, but a very good salary, more than enough to support her kids, she wouldn't take it. No one would be there to watch her, no red carpet, no rag mags, no nothing. Sorry, I somewhat understand DM Rick, she seem really just trying to see the good in her, but what you just posted is just beyond belief for me. NOthing against you, but I totally disagree.

It's fine to disagree, just remember, we all get to voice our opinions.

 

[walden]

I'm sure some of our legal eagles can look up the court docs--but I don't think they have joint custody. I believe Jon voluntarily gave custody to Kate.

And from what little I know based on folks I know in custodial situations--barring SERIOUS issues...and by that, I mean Kate doing Heroin on tv while the kids have dropped out of school and showing it all on tv...and even then it is sketchy....

The custodial parent can pretty much make parenting decisions like that as long as it doesn't interfere with whatever arrangements there are.

I know it is hard to believe, but there are parents out there much worse than Kate could ever be...and their custody arrangements are rock solid that pretty much prevents one parent from dictating to the other parent what they can and can not do with the kids on their time.

Sad, but true.

This is why Jon loses in court when he tries to prevent something. He doesn't get to dictate what the kids can and cannot do in their spare time. He gave that right up when he gave up custody.

That's why I Can't stand him or his pseudo-attempts to think of the children. I don't believe for one second that they are nothing more than a manipulative tactic so that he can claim he tried and look good to those who are watching.

It stinks, but that is how custody can work sometimes. Otherwise, the non-custodial parent would be attempting to call lots of shots that they have no rights to make. They surrender that control when they give up custody or they lose it.

I spent a lot of time on the legal documents re. DOLI and the proposed new amendments to the PA Child Labor Laws but not so much on the divorce stuff.

IIRC the custody was mediated and Jon was without legal representation for the mediation. Very stupid of him. I'm pretty sure that all the documentation regarding the mediation, divorce, child support and custody agreements is sealed, as are the documentation and outcomes of all subsequent hearings.

Which is to say that everything out there is speculation, opinion or rumor, including the amounts of child support paid, or not paid, by Jon. Any leaks on this from either Kate's or Jon's camps are biased and unreliable.

The only thing that seems concrete is that Kate is continuing to film the kids and seems to have primary physical custody. However, custody can be renegotiated.

Jon has stated that he is against the filming and has claimed that he "lost" in court over stopping the filming. He claims to have also lost in court over the Australia trip, but we don't know if that was a continuation of the previous hearing or about (more speculation) renegotiating child support, custody and visitation.

Oh, and to the person above who asked about the Duggars -- I don't like them either but possibly for different reasons than you! The Duggars are also allowing their children's privacy to be invaded with too much filming and their children are also working, probably without adequate protections and compensation either. That said, the Duggars have yet to reach the sheer number of episodes that the Gosselin children have filmed, and have obviously set much firmer restrictions on "what" is filmed.

 

[mhsjax]

It's fine to disagree, just remember, we all get to voice our opinions.

Oh, I know a little harsh, I will go back and delete it. Sorry.

 

[DMRick]

It's fine to disagree, just remember, we all get to voice our opinions.

Thank you Mari. That's all any of us have, is opinions.

As for the TLC contract, I thought the original one expired and John signed another to get some of the take. I have no interest in going back to read the other threads, but that's what I thought was much discussed..that he signed and that allowed the kids to continue. I'm pretty sure most of us thought under duress, since at that time he didn't appear employed and this might have been the only way he got some pay.

As for the Duggers. As sweet as the mom appears, as well as the kids, I don't see any difference in any of these children shows. Unless they work for nothing, they are all having their kids work for them in public. I happen to feel if you are against one (and this is just my opinion) you should be against all putting their children out there for the public. Just because you happen to like one mom more than the other, in my mind doesn't play into it.

 

[Dee77]

I can't help it, I have to ask- Did anyone else watch the E! THS "Kate Gosselin" that aired this week?

 

[luvsmickeymouse]

I can't help it, I have to ask- Did anyone else watch the E! THS "Kate Gosselin" that aired this week?

We watched it! I liked it, I can't believe the transformation Kate went through.

 

[Dee77]

We watched it! I liked it, I can't believe the transformation Kate went through.

That's what I was thinking the whole time I watched it, her figure looks fabulous but she has aged quite a bit, IMHO.

 

[bebelle]

That's what I was thinking the whole time I watched it, her figure looks fabulous but she has aged quite a bit, IMHO.

I wish I could whip my butt into such good shape!

 

[DMRick]

I can't help it, I have to ask- Did anyone else watch the E! THS "Kate Gosselin" that aired this week?

Yes, although I was suprised they had the person on that they did talking about her (that just came out with her book, that is nothing but all the stuff we have talked about from the rag mags). She's never even talked to her, and she's always following her and the kids, and she runs a dislike Kate blog.

I thought it was funny when they seemed to indicate that was Kate's parents, when it wasn't. Same with the campground..that wasn't the one her parents owned. They seemed to also just follow the rag mag's old posts.

I thought it was, for the most part done well. I don't get why they did this special on Kate, but it did start all the blogs back up talking again LOL. And this board too! Must be time for another special.

 

[Dee77]

Yes, although I was suprised they had the person on that they did talking about her (that just came out with her book, that is nothing but all the stuff we have talked about from the rag mags). She's never even talked to her, and she's always following her and the kids, and she runs a dislike Kate blog.

I thought it was funny when they seemed to indicate that was Kate's parents, when it wasn't. Same with the campground..that wasn't the one her parents owned. They seemed to also just follow the rag mag's old posts.

I thought it was, for the most part done well. I don't get why they did this special on Kate, but it did start all the blogs back up talking again LOL. And this board too! Must be time for another special.

Hey I gave it a few days to see if anyone else would bring it up on the disboards but then my curiosity got the best of me.

I thought that all in all it was just a regurgitation of stories that we have all heard and read about. It's not like they asked her to defend any of the commentary they were going to air. All of the segments they had of Kate herself were from other interviews and it did not seem like they were consistent with keeping them chronological. I was hoping that it would have included interviews with more of the key players (her family, Steve, former babysitters- from the time when they lived at the previous house, not the babysitter they had at the McMansion), but instead they chose to include people writing books and making money off of her.

 

[walden]

Hey I gave it a few days to see if anyone else would bring it up on the disboards but then my curiosity got the best of me.

I thought that all in all it was just a regurgitation of stories that we have all heard and read about. It's not like they asked her to defend any of the commentary they were going to air. All of the segments they had of Kate herself were from other interviews and it did not seem like they were consistent with keeping them chronological. I was hoping that it would have included interviews with more of the key players (her family, Steve, former babysitters- from the time when they lived at the previous house, not the babysitter they had at the McMansion), but instead they chose to include people writing books and making money off of her.

I didn't watch it closely, just had it on in the background when I was online doing other things. I mostly paid attention to the parts I agreed with: the repetition by various talking heads saying that the long-term effects of intensive "reality TV" filming are almost certainly detrimental for the children, and the work permit debate.

Please note that I believe the Gosselin kids were the first, but are not necessarily the last family, to undergo that level of intensive filming of their private lives. For the record, I have the same reservations about the other families that are now filming their families on TLC, Discovery, WE, etc. too. But those other shows have yet to reach the sheer volume of "shows" and "specials" encompassed by Jon and Kate & 8, and Kate & 8.

It did seem to me that they did not interview anyone close to Kate, but I wonder who is close to Kate and not a paid employee these days? She herself (and Jon) claimed that grand-parents "are not in our lives" or something like that, early on, because they "didn't know how to help." What would they have been able or willing to say?

As to people writing books and profiting second hand, I really don't know. I doubt that Paul Petersen is making any money off the Gosselin family, and I found his quotes quite powerful. His non-profit, "A Minor Consideration" seems legitimate. Yes, I looked into it carefully.

 

[Dee77]

Walden, as I read your post I realized that I did not include the aspects of the program that dealt with the filming of the children and the efforts that are being made for stricter regulation. There was a split second shot of one of the children outside and a camera crew right in the face of the child, I thought to myself that it seemed very close and in the child's personal space. If anything good comes from all of this, hopefully a change in favor of the rights of the children will be it.

 

[momrek06]

OK, I KID YOU NOT … I am sitting here on my computer listening to SAN DIEGO KIFM 98.1 and the 8:30am News comes on …

The news announcer says "apparently it is being reported that Kate and Jon Gosselin have been missing each other and the kids are missing Jon and they are apparently thinking of "burying the hatchet" on any new shows and getting back together" …

OMG are.you.kidding.me …

When the News was over all the DJ's were all screaming … "please, please, ENOUGH OF THEM" …

I cannot link anything as it was on the a.m. News.

 

[Promomx2]

Wendy Williams said on her show yesterday that Kate and Jon were back together but I didn't believe it. She also show a picture of Jon earlier in the week of him at his new job. He's installing solar panels.

 

[momrek06]

Wendy Williams said on her show yesterday that Kate and Jon were back together but I didn't believe it. She also show a picture of Jon earlier in the week of him at his new job. He's installing solar panels.

Yes, I saw that on TMZ. They pictures of him on the roof of a building installing the solar panels. I will say he looked pretty happy in the photos.

Soooo, this is all true then, they are back together … ???

 

[Lisa loves Pooh]

So do they truly miss each other and truly want to bury the hatchet, or is this another made for tv moment?

 

[bebelle]

This is what I found online:


http://earsucker.com/2011/02/24/jon-kate-gosselin-not-reuniting/

 

[momrek06]

This is what I found online:
http://earsucker.com/2011/02/24/jon-kate-gosselin-not-reuniting/

Thanks for posting that!

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