ChristmasElf said:
She doesn't really have much of an example to go on. I like Goldie Hawn and I think she has made some funny movies, but she herself is divorced twice and has lived with Kurt Russell for 20 something years and won't marry him.
Whoa! I'm not sure I agree with the cause-effect you imply in this sentence, let alone the implication about living-together-but-not-married. I've certainly known children with divorced parents who have happy marriages even though--and indeed because of--their parents' divorce. And a 20-year committed relationship isn't something to dismiss simply because it doesn't have a marriage license attached to it, is it? Or is this a sins-of-the-parent suggestion?
lesroi said:
I saw her on "The View" as well and I certainly did get the vibe that all was not well. She did mention that she was very young when she got married. She also talked about looking at other guys, saying "I'm married, I'm not dead." They talked about how all the guys on her latest movie set were so enamored of her. She just seemed to gloss over all the marriage questions and I really did get the "I am unhappy in my marriage" vibe coming from her.
Tracy
See, that's interesting. I didn't get the vibe at all. The discussion about looking at other guys came up because
The View co-hosts had been talking about such things earlier. And it was the co-hosts who asked her about marrying young (a question she gets in many, many "women's" media venues. If I remember correctly, she spoke very positively about her marriage.
And yes, she did gloss over her marriage, but she was on a press junket for
You, Me and Dupree. As a matter of fact, the little tidbit about her co-stars being enamored with Kate showed in many of the interviews about the film--one of those scripted stories that makes for good press. I didn't treat that seriously because I'd already heard it/read it a half dozen times before I saw The View. And Kate's been pretty reticent about her marriage in the past, so I thought nothing of her statements.
As for the whole "I'm married, not dead" statement, I believe she was indicating her agreement with Joy Behar's outlook. The earlier debate about relationships had something to do with whether a man's looking at a Playboy was a transgression of some sort, about whether being attracted to someone, about fantasizing about who isn't your partner is somehow unfaithful and will lead you down the slippery slope to adultery. Joy said no, Elisabeth said yes, Barbara Walters and I were bored with the conversation. Kate just seemed to indicate that attraction to another person besides your spouse is natural. I didn't see this as an indication of anything but her belief system, a belief which reflects mine (which is probably obvious).
But what's most interesting to me about this thread is the assumption that 1) the exclusive is true (understandable, given
People's reputation); 2) the separation automatically means divorce (a little trickier); and 3) that the reasons have to do with issues of monogamy/attraction to others or their relative success. The reason I find these assumptions so interesting is that they reveal so much more about us DISers than about Kate/Chris. Geez, even the fact we're invested enough to post is quite revealing; I'm even beginning to feel a little silly spending so much time and energy on this post!

It must be because I find Kate so darn cute.