JUST BACK! - AOA, MNSSHP, CROWDS, and BLAMING THE DIS

BigGreen73

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Just got back from a great trip yesterday. We went from 9/21 - 9/30 and stayed at AOA. We did MNSSHP twice, TUES and FRI. I thought that I would share a few thoughts and comments just in case I can help enyomne prepare.•AOA - Beautiful resort. Very well themed. The pics that I have seen online did not do it justice. We enjoyed staying there. Only issues that I has was there is very little drawer space in the LM rooms, and the food court food area is small and slow. I think Josh was spot on with his review. The food court seating was plentiful, but at meal times, the food lines always looked busy even if there was only a few in line. With the food being prepared as ordered, the food service was slow. The burger and pizza/pasta sections were always busy, barely anyone went for the mongolian stir fry section.

•CROWDS- I would say the crowds were double what I experienced in Sept 2010. At times, it felt like moderate season crowds instead of low Sept season. Many guests that I spoke to stated it felt like spring crowds, but I have experienced spring and it wasn't THAT busy. As usual, TSM ran out of fastpasses by the afternoon, and the days that we went to Epcot, Soarin was out of fastpasses by 5pm (recommended and non recommend days). Soarin I blame on Test Track being down. MK was always busy. In 2010, even on not recommended days, we were walking on almost everything w/ a peak wait of maybe 10-20 minutes (this included the mtns and PP), this year Splash & Space hit 60mins +, and BTRR hit 40mins+ in the afternoon. The day we went to DHS was a recommended day and RNR hit 80mins in the afternoon. But with planning etc, we did everything we wanted with ease. Don't get me wrong, at times waits were 10-15mins on most things, but we did experience larger crowds and longer waits than in 2010. In 2010, except for TSM, we never saw a wait break 30mins even in peak afternoon crowds. We spoke to many 1st time visiters and they all said that a lot of websites said this was the bext time to and more and more families seem to have no problem pulling their kids from school to go during this recommened times. So here is where I blame the Dis. Dis is a great site, but more and more people are becoming aware of easywdw, the dis, touringplans etc year after year. And with discounts and free ddp This just causes the window of small crowds to shrink. Pretty soon, it will just be moderate and peak season crowds.

•MNSSHP - This was the biggest surprise. Holy busy!! I don't think they were sell outs, but they were way busier that what I experienced during our two parties in 2010. The lines for all the characters AND trick or treating were long from the beginning of the party right through midnight or the close of the lines, whichever came first. Even getting in line at 6pm for Capt Jack for example, it still took 30 mins to get through. When we left the line at 7:30, the line was from Pirates past Jungle Cruise. The line for the princesses moves slooooooow. We were at the Princesses at 6:15 and there was maybe 10 families in front of us, took 30 mins again to get through. The lines for all characters were long. Period. On average 30 mins+ and people seemed to have no problem waiting in line. Best bet is to hit characters is to line up EARLY for your must see, and do others during parades and FW's if those lines are open to avoid most of your party in line. Everyone seemed to know where and when characters were meeting and lines up well in advance. The Villains mix and mingle was also nuts. Every show was packed and that secition in front of the castle always had hundreds of people watching the show and waiting to get in line. We didn't bother trying to see the Villains this time as we easily got them all in 2010. Both parades were equally busy, crowds on main street and in front of the castle were pretty thick all night. Oh and when I say trick or treating was busy, I don't mean 10-12 people, I means 50+ person lines at 11:30pm. Yikes, at least the the lines moved somewhat quickly. I spoke with a lot of CM and they too stated the 1st two parties were dead, barely anyone, but since then, busy, busy, BUSY!!


Well, that's it for now. Got stuff to get done. I'll try and post more later. If anyone has any specific questions, post them and I will try to answer.
 
Sounds like you had a lively time. I loved the AoA food court and hope, with time, they'll be able to speed things up a bit.

Welcome home.

:)
 
I've been saying for some time that the last week of September just isn't low crowd any more. It seems to be the week of choice for the Aug/Sept free dining period. It's just a different animal from the earlier weeks of September. I think the first week or two of September are some of the only slow weeks left at Disney.

Don't forget to blame the economy. While it hasn't shifted WHETHER people go to Disney, it has certainly shifted WHEN they go. Reports here on the DIS were that 4th of July crowds seemed much lighter this year. Why? No free dining.

Your reports seem spot on. From what I read here last week, it seems like Tuesday's party must have been a near sell-out and Friday's party did sell out.
 

re:crowds..

While I'm sure some of the shift can be blamed on sites like this, it's also that WDW is just flat out marketing to get people there during the 'slow' times.. It's been stated that if WDW does their marketing right, there wont be a slow time. There are times, no matter what that will be overwhelming, but fewer and fewer times when it's 'empty'

Sounds like you still had a great time, and part of that also was probably because of easywdw, tp, here etc etc
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did they have Cinderella's coach this year and if so where is it located?
 
We were also at the Tues. party and I couldn't believe how busy it was either.

Starting at 4 helped. We breezed through the first 2 lands.

Character picture lines were insane so we didn't even attempt those.

While candy lines were long they did move really fast.
 
I was there last week too and things we're definitely busier than the other two september visits we had. We attended the party Friday the 28th and it was a sold out party. Character lines were crazy so we just did the dwarves since we were in line by 620. We still waited til 740. The hub was a madhouse and we didn't stick around for the mix and mingle. We did some trick or treating, the two haunted mansion magic shots, parade, fireworks, and two rides, then left around 11:15.

I did not see cinderellas coach and had read on here that they weren't having it this year.
 
I for one am sad to see this sort of "just back" thread being moved to the trip report board. I think it is one of the most valuable sorts of threads for someone making plans on how to hit the parks soon. I really see this sort of thread as different from a trip report, more like the most up to date info from the parks.

When I'm close to a trip and want real info, the last place I look is the trip reports board. The vast majority of those took place months ago during times of year I'll never visit. Makes me wonder how much valuable information goes unseen.
 
I for one am sad to see this sort of "just back" thread being moved to the trip report board. I think it is one of the most valuable sorts of threads for someone making plans on how to hit the parks soon. I really see this sort of thread as different from a trip report, more like the most up to date info from the parks.

When I'm close to a trip and want real info, the last place I look is the trip reports board. The vast majority of those took place months ago during times of year I'll never visit. Makes me wonder how much valuable information goes unseen.

I agree. These just back threads are usually the most informative posts here. Moving it to the dreaded Disney Trip Reports filled with a million unfinished trip reports and beyond annoying titles just guarantee that the useful information will be lost.
 
I am also bummed the thread was moved. I just wanted to emphasize how crazy the character and trick or treat lines were. I (along with many other) had some unrealistic goals in what I wanted to accomplish during the party. My goals were based on my Sept 2010 trip. I am hoping with my notes others may adjust their goals so that they are not surprised or disappointed just in case it stays the same through October.
 
No carriage this year due to the construction in Fantasyland.

No carriage. And jst as an FYI, Donald and Daisy were by the Carousel,Aurora and Prince & Suzy and Perla were by the new section of Fantasyland wall that is uncovered.
 















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