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[disneegrl4eva]

WDW started a while ago. There is another thread about this. Maybe you can give me the link where is states Disneyland will be doing this. I just read 20+ articles and they all address the World, not Disneyland.

Thanks

Jack

Stop Spreading unfounded rumors. There are no changes at DLR, or planned to come to DLR at this time. None.

Mmmkay, so...

Can you share why you are so hard-line adamant that this is not coming to DLR (or planned to do so)? Thanks!

- Dreams

yeah I would like to know that too....Are you a castmember skiingfast? As S.S. Columbia pointed out, there are pics with the FP indicating the exact. same. message. that wdw has printed on their FP stating NOT able to accomodate late arrivals and my friend who lives just a short distance from wdw and goes pretty much every weekend and then some on weekdays depending on who is in town stated that it is indeed in effect at wdw as of last week so yeah inquiring minds want to know

 

[Virgoinab]

yeah I would like to know that too....Are you a castmember skiingfast? As S.S. Columbia pointed out, there are pics with the FP indicating the exact. same. message. that wdw has printed on their FP stating NOT able to accomodate late arrivals and my friend who lives just a short distance from wdw and goes pretty much every weekend and then some on weekdays depending on who is in town stated that it is indeed in effect at wdw as of last week so yeah inquiring minds want to know

Just to be clear, are you saying that there are pics of FP from DL that have the same wording "not able to accommodate late arrivals" as they are now showing at WDW?

If that is the case, could you please direct me to those pics, as the only one's that I am aware of are FP from WDW that are showing that statement.

At some point DL may very well start to enforce the return times, however from everything that I am hearing from those who are there now, they are not, just at WDW.

 

[disneegrl4eva]

Just to be clear, are you saying that there are pics of FP from DL that have the same wording "not able to accommodate late arrivals" as they are now showing at WDW?

If that is the case, could you please direct me to those pics, as the only one's that I am aware of are FP from WDW that are showing that statement.

At some point DL may very well start to enforce the return times, however from everything that I am hearing from those who are there now, they are not, just at WDW.

Oh my bad and thanks for getting me straight Virgoinab....I swear I thought those were from Soarin' FP's at DL but after you wrote this I went back and looked and saw they were from wdw...but Im still interested to hear how skiingfast is sure that it wont affect DL short of being a CM themselves...

 

[Huff]

These threads are repeated and long so this may be repeated many times elsewhere!!

It seems the enforcement at WDW is a prelude to the up and coming XPass ride reservation system. In order for XPass to work, FP's have to be held within their time frame. To get people used to that before XPass is started, WDW is now enforcing FP return times. DLR on the other hand is not scheduled for XPass at least until its functional and working well at WDW. Thus, no current FP return enforcement at DLR.

 

[jdb in AZ]

Mouse Planet posted this morning that it's business as usual at Disneyland, late Fasspasses are still being honored, tho things may change when Carsland opens mid-June.

Quoting MousePlanet:

Though Disney-owned ABC-TV in Los Angeles reported on Thursday that Disneyland had also tightened its Fastpass policy, cast members tell us nothing has changed. Unlike Walt Disney World, there was no change to the language on Disneyland Fastpass tickets, no new signs at the rides, and no problem when a reader used an expired Fastpass to board Space Mountain on Saturday. Disneyland may be waiting to see how the policy change plays in Florida, or may be waiting until Cars Land opens to tighten enforcement.

 

[skiingfast]

I have a slightly different take on the situation.

I have heard from several sources it will be happening. I would rather people be aware when planning it may happen, than show up at the park and go "Disboards told me NO WAY!"

Forget this whole DCA thing and go to Westcot across the Esplanade from DL. Bring your bathing suit to go to the Disney waterpark in the Strawberry Fields. Everyone should enjoy the free dining plans in the offseason. Relax in the new safety of the lap bars that are on Splash and the Mattherhorn. Enjoy all those attraction at the north end of ROA. Wish Nemo would swim into the parks now that we are going to Atlantis.

Why does this all matter, we have to take what we can get since the world is ending in 9 months.

Since FP are not changing in DLR don't take these unsupported rumors to heart and let it effect your planning.

 

[larryt]

Here right now and fast pass is business as usual and the parks are not as crowded as I thought either so double bonus

 

[helenb]

As someone else said, I was at the park yesterday and used ST fastpasses twice(which is another story) well past the window on the ticket.

I want to hear the story about how you used the FP twice!!!!

 

[HydroGuy]

Forget this whole DCA thing and go to Westcot across the Esplanade from DL. Bring your bathing suit to go to the Disney waterpark in the Strawberry Fields. Everyone should enjoy the free dining plans in the offseason. Relax in the new safety of the lap bars that are on Splash and the Mattherhorn. Enjoy all those attraction at the north end of ROA. Wish Nemo would swim into the parks now that we are going to Atlantis.

Why does this all matter, we have to take what we can get since the world is ending in 9 months.

Since FP are not changing in DLR don't take these unsupported rumors to heart and let it effect your planning.

But rumors are so fuuuun! The more the merrier! Heavenly Al Lutz! Rumors are to DISBoards what screams are to Sully. Bring 'em on!

 

[disneegrl4eva]

But rumors are so fuuuun! The more the merrier! Heavenly Al Lutz! Rumors are to DISBoards what screams are to Sully. Bring 'em on!

no no no no hydroguy ...DO NOT SPREAD rumors...else OFF WITH YOUR HEAD by the decree of our all knowing leader skiingfast

 

[blackjackdelta]

I have a slightly different take on the situation. A few here might remember Tino. Tino booked his trip based on the Matterhorn being up and running. Despite some saying "It is supposed to go down for refurb", Tino kept calling Disneyland, who right up until the last minute, told him "Oh no, it will be running, don't worry about it."

I have heard from several sources it will be happening. I would rather people be aware when planning it may happen, than show up at the park and go "Disboards told me NO WAY!"

I remember him well, the build manager from NY Think with a huge negative post about DLR. I do not understand why people can not get it thru there heads that anything can happen at anytime and not to rely on every CM having a clue to what is going. There are 18-22,000 CM's working at the resort, what are the odds.

Jack

 

[bakerudall]

Forget this whole DCA thing and go to Westcot across the Esplanade from DL. Bring your bathing suit to go to the Disney waterpark in the Strawberry Fields. Everyone should enjoy the free dining plans in the offseason. Relax in the new safety of the lap bars that are on Splash and the Mattherhorn. Enjoy all those attraction at the north end of ROA. Wish Nemo would swim into the parks now that we are going to Atlantis.

Why does this all matter, we have to take what we can get since the world is ending in 9 months.

Since FP are not changing in DLR don't take these unsupported rumors to heart and let it effect your planning.

I heard there is going to be a tram installed from Phoenix to the Toy Story parking lot in honor of Arizona's 100 years of statehood.

 

[llump41]

I want to hear the story about how you used the FP twice!!!!

I have a GAC so I do not enter the main entrance to ST but take a side entrance to the elevators. Saves me time but I get stuck in the first row. About 50% of the time the CM gatekeeper to the fastpass line doesn't take my FPs when I show them my FP and the GAC.

 

[MichelleVW]

Here right now and fast pass is business as usual and the parks are not as crowded as I thought either so double bonus

This isn't crowded??? Holy moly....we haven't had to wait for anything due to getting at the park way before rope drop and using FP's but it's wall to wall people now!!

And to keep this on topic...I used a Fast Pass for Indy on Sunday 10 hours late, and most of the Fast Passes we've used in the past 3 days were at least an hour late. I don't know how I"m going to function at WDW now that they are enforcing the window!!

 

[Magnod]

I just came back from 5 days at DL.

Here's my experience:

We used late FPs at all of the major rides for most of the trip. There was one occasion when we went back to Splash Mountain an hour after our time. The guy made us wait outside of the rope for 4 minutes before letting us in the FP line. Someone going in after us commented about the time and the worker said "Not everyone checks the times, but I do." So I guess its really hit or miss on the enforcement of the times, but it does appear that they may be getting a little more strict.

During our CA visits, we had no problems getting in with the FPs past their time, but one of the workers did comment that she'd make us wait if it was more crowded. This was for the HTH ride.

 

[azdisneylover]

I heard there is going to be a tram installed from Phoenix to the Toy Story parking lot in honor of Arizona's 100 years of statehood.

WOOHOO! That would be awesome! It would be nice if the tram was enclosed because it isn't fun when you're driving in the summer and that AZ wind hits your face even if it is a dry heat! Maybe if we ask nicely the tram driver would make a run through Sonics! Love them Lemon Berry Slushies!

 

[MichelleVW]

I just came back from 5 days at DL.

Here's my experience:

We used late FPs at all of the major rides for most of the trip. There was one occasion when we went back to Splash Mountain an hour after our time. The guy made us wait outside of the rope for 4 minutes before letting us in the FP line. Someone going in after us commented about the time and the worker said "Not everyone checks the times, but I do." So I guess its really hit or miss on the enforcement of the times, but it does appear that they may be getting a little more strict.

During our CA visits, we had no problems getting in with the FPs past their time, but one of the workers did comment that she'd make us wait if it was more crowded. This was for the HTH ride.

I'm confused on why they made you wait 4 minutes?

 

[Disney Dreams]

The fact is that the FP has a window on it. The "exception" is not in writing anywhere. If you want to return after the window, you are risking being turned away. A CM can enforce the time on the FP. What are you (generic "you") going to do? Start a fight with a CM that message board told you that the rule does not apply?

From comments on the boards here, I sometimes wonder if many of you feel that front-on-the-line employees at any establishment do not need to be respected or listened to at all. The FP has a window printed on it. That's when it's meant to be used. If you choose to use it outside of the window, you are doing so at your own risk.

... Heavenly Al Lutz!...

- Dreams

 

[HydroGuy]

The fact is that the FP has a window on it. The "exception" is not in writing anywhere. If you want to return after the window, you are risking being turned away. A CM can enforce the time on the FP. What are you (generic "you") going to do? Start a fight with a CM that message board told you that the rule does not apply?

From comments on the boards here, I sometimes wonder if many of you feel that front-on-the-line employees at any establishment do not need to be respected or listened to at all. The FP has a window printed on it. That's when it's meant to be used. If you choose to use it outside of the window, you are doing so at your own risk.

There were a couple examples on the WDW FP thread that I found compelling. One is the idea of park closing. Disneyland and DCA have official hours when they close. However, everyone knows they do not close the parks. And if you are in line for rides when the park closes you can ride that ride. Some people purposely get in line one minute before closing so they can ride it. Heck, when Nemo Subs opened in 2007 folks were getting in line at 11:59PM because the day time queues were 2-4 hours long and the queue at midnight was closer to an hour or even two at first. So they rode the ride at like 1AM (and sometimes 2AM) - well after closing.

Some folks purposely wait until after the park closes to go shopping on Main Street.

Yes, the printed closing time is clear when you enter the park and get your "Times Guide". But Disney has a soft closing time. Some folks take advantage of that. I have myself.

I totally agree Disney and the CMs are within their rights to enforce the FP window however and whenever they want. But the soft policy has been to accept them late. I think it has a lot of parallels to park closing time.

 

[Disney Dreams]

...One is the idea of park closing. Disneyland and DCA have official hours when they close. However, everyone knows they do not close the parks....

Ah, but if you were to try to ENTER the Park after Park closing time, you would not be successful. The Park is closed. It's not at the CM's discretion or a matter of the CM being mean or making up their own rules. The Park is closed and you (generically speaking) will not be allowed to enter.

...And if you are in line for rides when the park closes you can ride that ride. Some people purposely get in line one minute before closing so they can ride it. Heck, when Nemo Subs opened in 2007 folks were getting in line at 11:59PM because the day time queues were 2-4 hours long and the queue at midnight was closer to an hour or even two at first. So they rode the ride at like 1AM (and sometimes 2AM) - well after closing.

I don't think this is a case of exceptions. If you are eating in a restaurant somewhere in your town, they are not going to kick you out, take your food off the table, and make you leave mid-way through your dinner. You are going to be able to finish eating. If you are in line for a ride when the Park closes, you will be allowed to ride. However, you cannot get in line after that time. They are closed.

Yes, the printed closing time is clear when you enter the park and get your "Times Guide". But Disney has a soft closing time. Some folks take advantage of that. I have myself.

Again, I don't consider that an exception. You are in line. You get to do that for which you were waiting before leaving.

I totally agree Disney and the CMs are within their rights to enforce the FP window however and whenever they want. But the soft policy has been to accept them late. I think it has a lot of parallels to park closing time.

This is getting to my point. If a CM enforces what is on the FP, they are following a policy. Many people here have posted a variety of comments with the attitude that if a CM turned them away, the CM would be wrong. This is not correct. The FP is good from X - Y, as printed on it very clearly. If the CM chooses to accept it after the fact, you (generically speaking) are getting the exception to the rule.

I think a better analogy than park closing would be AFTER park closing. If you attempt to get in line after Park closing and a CM lets you, they are making an exception to the rule. If they allow you to ride because you were in line, that's just following policy.

- Dreams