Jon and Kate Plus 8 Official Thread - Part 8

[Funball]

jon gosslein IS disturbing. ..if anyone has issues.. it's him!! wow.. he staged a break in--umm desperate for attention? i think so!!

 

[madge]

this is what RadarOnline has. It may or may not prove anything.

http://www.radaronline.com/sites/default/files/GosselintextbugUSE.pdf

 

[mrsksomeday]

I am not defending Jon at all, but Radar Online is not the best source for real news stories.

 

[madge]

I am not defending Jon at all, but Radar Online is not the best source for real news stories.

radar online = national enquirer

 

[mrsksomeday]

radar online = national enquirer

Great comparison .

 

[madge]

Great comparison .

no, really. RadarOnline is owned (or vice versa) by the National Enquirer!

 

[mrsksomeday]

no, really. RadarOnline is owned (or vice versa) by the National Enquirer!

DUH, sorry I didn't know that. Thanks for the info.

 

[OhMari]

DUH, sorry I didn't know that. Thanks for the info.

You have the cutest signature.

 

[mrsksomeday]

You have the cutest signature.

Thanks, I am really happy with it. It was a desktop background I found online and I changed a couple things then added the wording.

 

[3prettyprincesses]

Well, this is interesting. Actually it's always interesting to hear Kate talk about the cameras in her kid's lives. Words straight from her mouth, not an unnamed 'source' too. It sounds like she's really trying to paint a happy picture with the relationship between her kids and the crew. Heck, even the production assistants babysit for her .

http://omg.yahoo.com/news/kate-gosselin-very-happy-to-put-cameras-back-in-front-of-children/41873

QUOTE:

Kate Gosselin "Very Happy" to Put Cameras Back in Front of Children

Kate Gosselin says she is glad to have her old camera crew back with her children to film a series of specials for TLC's Kate Plus 8.

"I am very happy I was able to put that back in their lives and there is nothing negative about it," Gosselin said during a Today show interview on Friday. "I love our crew. The cameras are on, and I love them. And the cameras are off, and they're helping me around the house. ... They are family. Production assistants come and babysit my kids sometimes even."

Kate also addressed her relationship with ex-husband Jon Gosselin since he filed for custody of the couple's eight children in April.

"He's dropped the custody battle," the Dancing with the Stars alum said. "At this very moment, things are peaceful. He's amicable at this very moment. I never know when that's going to change. I worry everyday where we're going to be."

Though Gosselin says she's not ready to date, she says she's been forced to deal with Jon's new relationships because of the children.

"You know, it's hard. [The kids] come home and I have to discuss things, " Gosselin said. "They ask me questions where his girlfriends are concerned, and it's just a situation I have to deal with with them."

 

[kidshop]

Well, this is interesting. Actually it's always interesting to hear Kate talk about the cameras in her kid's lives. Words straight from her mouth, not an unnamed 'source' too. It sounds like she's really trying to paint a happy picture with the relationship between her kids and the crew. Heck, even the production assistants babysit for her .

http://omg.yahoo.com/news/kate-gosselin-very-happy-to-put-cameras-back-in-front-of-children/41873

QUOTE:

Kate Gosselin "Very Happy" to Put Cameras Back in Front of Children

Kate Gosselin says she is glad to have her old camera crew back with her children to film a series of specials for TLC's Kate Plus 8.

"I am very happy I was able to put that back in their lives and there is nothing negative about it," Gosselin said during a Today show interview on Friday. "I love our crew. The cameras are on, and I love them. And the cameras are off, and they're helping me around the house. ... They are family. Production assistants come and babysit my kids sometimes even."

Kate also addressed her relationship with ex-husband Jon Gosselin since he filed for custody of the couple's eight children in April.

"He's dropped the custody battle," the Dancing with the Stars alum said. "At this very moment, things are peaceful. He's amicable at this very moment. I never know when that's going to change. I worry everyday where we're going to be."

Though Gosselin says she's not ready to date, she says she's been forced to deal with Jon's new relationships because of the children.

"You know, it's hard. [The kids] come home and I have to discuss things, " Gosselin said. "They ask me questions where his girlfriends are concerned, and it's just a situation I have to deal with with them."

Quick! Name one person in the lives the Gosselin children who is not paid to be there!

Can't do it, huh?

 

[OhMari]

Quick! Name one person in the lives the Gosselin children who is not paid to be there!

Can't do it, huh?

We don't know if her parents, or sisters come to visit. If they do, maybe they have stipulations that they do not want to be filmed or photographed.

Kara went away last weekend to sleep at someone elses house. Maybe it was one/on/one with a grandma or aunt. The paps didn't know, they just showed Kate blowing kisses to her leaving. No car or vehicle was shown.

 

[DMRick]

I totally agree. One of the articles about DWTS awhile back said her mom and sister went to see her on DWTS, so we don't know everything.

We don't know if her parents, or sisters come to visit. If they do, maybe they have stipulations that they do not want to be filmed or photographed.

Kara went away last weekend to sleep at someone elses house. Maybe it was one/on/one with a grandma or aunt. The paps didn't know, they just showed Kate blowing kisses to her leaving. No car or vehicle was shown.

 

[DMRick]

I agree we shouldn't call it the original name Jon and Kate Plus 8, but it should be called something similar. We could go with the other thread, but I have a feeling it could get ugly over there once the show starts. Way back, I think 3 years ago, I started this thread and there was another thread about the Gosselins, and it got shut, because of all the bickering. I would really hate for that to happen, and then I couldn't have the guilty pleasure discussing the show.

Oh Mari, how about just Kate + 8, which would be similar. Those that don't want to participate could start a different thread. This thread has, for the most part gone smoothly, even with disagreements.

 

[DMRick]

Is it 15% of earnings per child? I should be!! I hope they change that wording to provide per individual child.

I thought it was 15% of the earnings had to go into the kids accounts..so if the show earned $1000, $150 would go into the kids accounts. I would assume that was pretax, so it would be less. I also thought that that money can be used for education and maybe even medical (I can't remember what else, was it housing? That doesn't seem right), so that money, as well as the money the parents said they already were saving (TLC said it was more than 15%, but who knows) can be used before the kids reach whatever age they said it had to be to be used by them.

 

[mousey]

Quick! Name one person in the lives the Gosselin children who is not paid to be there!

Can't do it, huh?

ITA! Kate has alienated the whole family and friends years ago. I can't believe anyone would believe that they just don't want to be photographed. Its wishful thinking that family and friends are involved, but its the paid crew and production assistants who are stuck babysitting. Aren't their meals provided for on days of taping? No cooking for Kate! Doesn't hair and makeup dress and do hair for the kids? Just relax Kate! Worry about yourself Kate as your the star of the show!

 

[Lisa loves Pooh]

I thought it was 15% of the earnings had to go into the kids accounts..so if the show earned $1000, $150 would go into the kids accounts. I would assume that was pretax, so it would be less. I also thought that that money can be used for education and maybe even medical (I can't remember what else, was it housing? That doesn't seem right), so that money, as well as the money the parents said they already were saving (TLC said it was more than 15%, but who knows) can be used before the kids reach whatever age they said it had to be to be used by them.

If PA is trying to do some version of the Coogan law--it would be 15% of each child's earnings...NOT the entire earnings hte family receives for doing a show.

As it stands--like it or not...if the sextuplets are working, so is Kate and she is entitled to receive a paycheck from TLC just as they are. She doesn't nor shouldn't be expected to contribute 15% of her salary for the kids.

Billy Ray Cyrus receives an independent check from Miley Cyrus for his activity on Hannah Montana--he is not expected to contribute 15% to Miley as that is not the purpose of the Coogan Law. It is to protect the earnings of the minor.

My understanding--is that PA is requiring 15% of the kids' earnings to be put in trust. It doesn't make sense any other way. ETA: This also means that the other 85% is unprotected to the point that Kate can use (or sadly not use) it on the kids. She can use it for anything that benefits the kids, including but not limited to their education, clothing, etc.

 

[DMRick]

So, would that mean that TLC would have to decide how much pay is actually the kids? I guess I thought there was one paycheck and 15% had to be the kids accounts. I also thought that 15% could be used for certain things, like education. What TLC agreed to do now..I'm not talking about whatever new legislation might get passed. Won't know what that will be until it's passed and settled.

If PA is trying to do some version of the Coogan law--it would be 15% of each child's earnings...NOT the entire earnings hte family receives for doing a show.

As it stands--like it or not...if the sextuplets are working, so is Kate and she is entitled to receive a paycheck from TLC just as they are. She doesn't nor shouldn't be expected to contribute 15% of her salary for the kids.

Billy Ray Cyrus receives an independent check from Miley Cyrus for his activity on Hannah Montana--he is not expected to contribute 15% to Miley as that is not the purpose of the Coogan Law. It is to protect the earnings of the minor.

My understanding--is that PA is requiring 15% of the kids' earnings to be put in trust. It doesn't make sense any other way. ETA: This also means that the other 85% is unprotected to the point that Kate can use (or sadly not use) it on the kids. She can use it for anything that benefits the kids, including but not limited to their education, clothing, etc.

 

[3prettyprincesses]

If PA is trying to do some version of the Coogan law--it would be 15% of each child's earnings...NOT the entire earnings hte family receives for doing a show.

As it stands--like it or not...if the sextuplets are working, so is Kate and she is entitled to receive a paycheck from TLC just as they are. She doesn't nor shouldn't be expected to contribute 15% of her salary for the kids.

Billy Ray Cyrus receives an independent check from Miley Cyrus for his activity on Hannah Montana--he is not expected to contribute 15% to Miley as that is not the purpose of the Coogan Law. It is to protect the earnings of the minor.

My understanding--is that PA is requiring 15% of the kids' earnings to be put in trust. It doesn't make sense any other way. ETA: This also means that the other 85% is unprotected to the point that Kate can use (or sadly not use) it on the kids. She can use it for anything that benefits the kids, including but not limited to their education, clothing, etc.

If that's true, that the kids are getting paid their own checks, then wouldn't TLC have to acknowledge that the kids are indeed employees? I think it's a slippery slope. I wonder if they (TLC) are paying Kate only as a family check? If so, how does that work as far as dividing it among the kids? And who makes sure she is doing it? I assume the trust is revocable since it's been stated they can use the $ for the kids' needs.

 

[Lisa loves Pooh]

So, would that mean that TLC would have to decide how much pay is actually the kids? I guess I thought there was one paycheck and 15% had to be the kids accounts. I also thought that 15% could be used for certain things, like education. What TLC agreed to do now..I'm not talking about whatever new legislation might get passed. Won't know what that will be until it's passed and settled.

(Answering for 3PrettyPrincesses as well)

I'm assuming that is what is implied they should do. But given they know how to take advantage of loopholes, I haven't seen that expressly stated in any law.

The 15% is for trust to be saved when the kids are older--so it could be used for college. It cannot be used for their present private school education as that is a current expense and my understanding is that a trust is to save money for later.

I'm also assuming that they got the 15% from the CA Coogan Law.

They already have to acknowledge they are working due to the permits.

And FWIW--no entertainer (sorry for that word) on stage or on camera is an employee...they are contracted to the show and essentically work as an independent contractor. Means nothing really--but TLC wouldn't have to admit that any of them are employees as they are contracted to be on the show including Kate.

I would hope that each kid gets a set dollar amount (I don't really care as long as it is a realistic value and not a token $100 for example.) It doesn't bother me that Kate makes more at all. But I would love to see each of them say on the old $75,000 per episode --- make anywhere from $2000-$5000 per episode per child. So that is $16,000 to $40,000 with Kate taking home the balance of the per episode fee. Then they would put away 15% of those salaries (which is really a pittance) into trust. Nothing stops them from putting more. But as we have noticed with Kate, labels and new things and stuff and "experiences" are important and I envision a Kate that would justify silly things like food costs, a new bike, an airline ticket for the child and using their earnings to pay for it.

I'm not sure of the accounting of that or what is required by law--other than yes, you can use a portion of the child's earnings for their benefit.

I am not a finance person--so I know nothing about trusts and such. If the trust can be set up as revocable--then the law may not be as clear as it should be if their whole motivation is to protect the Gosselin children and all other children of the state in the entertainment industry.