Jon and Kate Plus 8 Official Thread - Part 8

[cheermom1]

possibly--but those businesses have been around quite a while and their stuff does appear in thrift stores btw.

I shop thrift (in addition to brand new) and I'm a bit picky and find LOTS of labels at second hand stores. It really isn't all that hard to do.

And depending on your luck--you can find some pretty big names.

ETA: Most of what I have purchased for the new baby was purchased second hand...one of the outfits is Ralph Lauren. I paid but a fraction of whatever it's original purchaser paid in retail.

Yep I have found some really good labels and I am very picky about what I buy. one of the ladies that runs one of the shops I go to all the time told me one that I have a very good eye and know what to look for. And that we are always very well dressed and never would have guessed us having used clothing on if she had seen us on the street. Now THAT is a compliment.

 

[Lisa loves Pooh]

I do have to agree about the double standards. I for one am not telling Kate what she should do for a living but you do have to admit her 15 mins of fame is up!

Totally agree, but that can be "proven" in a discussion without using a double standard.

I mean--Angelina Jolie is catching grief in the press, we have to realize something is up and that it is much more fun to paint "famous" moms as bad moms when there's kids left behind while they do their "work".

But noone says a peep when Brad is filming.

 

[cheermom1]

Totally agree, but that can be "proven" in a discussion without using a double standard.

I mean--Angelina Jolie is catching grief in the press, we have to realize something is up and that it is much more fun to paint "famous" moms as bad moms when there's kids left behind while they do their "work".

But noone says a peep when Brad is filming.

Yes I agree, we can all see Kate's time in the spot light is up. However I am not using her being away from her kids as a reason why she should not be in the spot light. She needs to focus on getting life back to normal for everyone's sake especially the kids. I can see that her time WILL soon be up and no one will want her on their show or their net work and for that I think she needs to be realistic about her career. When that happens she WILL have to down grade and need to get everyone ready to adjust to it. I do think she is the one that will have the biggest problem adjusting though. I also think that just b/c Kate is not in the spot light that she won't be poor with her book deals and speaking and other things.

 

[Lisa loves Pooh]

. I also think that just b/c Kate is not in the spot light that she won't be poor with her book deals and speaking and other things.

That all depends...is the public still buying?

Watching her in action in a train wreck is one thing--but people who despise her aren't going to follow her around on a whimsical ride through single mommyhood.

Book sales shall soon tell all to see if she has a career in that or not.

I'm a bit..."appalled' at the content of her new book that was published in the rag mags this week.

Granted, I have committed similar errrors to my children--i.e. I have commented probably more harshly than I should have on certain behaviors. I also have been known to call daddy when they wouldn't or didn't obey--but I consider that good parenting especially if the alternative is becoming irrational. Did this just last week when my 7yo CARVED into my dining room chair.

Yeah--my only solution in my head was to go ballistic....but I called dad "the prinicipal of our school instead" and worked out a solution that was more rational and directed to the behavior.

But I wouldn't go publish that all in a book. I can barely bring myself to post it here.

 

[madge]

possibly--but those businesses have been around quite a while and their stuff does appear in thrift stores btw.

I shop thrift (in addition to brand new) and I'm a bit picky and find LOTS of labels at second hand stores. It really isn't all that hard to do.

And depending on your luck--you can find some pretty big names.

ETA: Most of what I have purchased for the new baby was purchased second hand...one of the outfits is Ralph Lauren. I paid but a fraction of whatever it's original purchaser paid in retail.

I have great luck shopping (and selling!) consignment.

as far as the Duggars wearing Gymboree -- I've looked online, and haven't run across any pictures of the younger kids in the most recent Gymboree lines. Gymboree used to send the Gosselins entire lines at a time, often before they were released in stores. If they're doing that for the Duggars, it's not for product placement on the show, because they're not wear it. LOL

 

[madge]

But I wouldn't go publish that all in a book. I can barely bring myself to post it here.

exactly!

 

[madge]

want to play a drinking game for the book? use the word normal

http://www.zondervan.com/media/samples/pdf/0310318963_samptxt.pdf

I think Kate may have actually written this one.

 

[kidshop]

In some circles, his behavior is tantamount to blackmail.



As for Kate's employment--why oh why do people keep insisting upon their "approved" employment arrangements. Claiming that it is best for the kids is simply a smoke screen.


Has anyone read this week's tabloid fodder. Angelina Jolie (who actually has some acting chops and makes the mega bucks for it) is being raked over the coals b/c poor Brad is left with daddy duty.

WTH? In this day and age--why are we judging women so harshly when they do not have "jobs" that follow the status quo and cater to the kids school schedule?

Such a double standard. And I'm far from a women's lib type person. It really though is demonstrative of how society still views women inappropriately if they do not fit the cookie cutter image of what a mom should be doing.

I think Brad makes a fine father. In reality (not tabloid reality) Angelina is with her kids a lot, often takes them on location and arranges her schedule with Brad so one of them is with the kids. Which brings me to my point that I feel kids need to be with at least one parent the majority of the time. I do not think kids should be raised by paid help with neither parent even in the same town. A single working mom is still with her kids part of the day most days.

Does the double standard apply to Jon (assuming he wants to be there)? He is the parent who is not the breadwinner, and is available to take care of the kids. Many stay at home moms are in his exact position after a divorce and they would get the kids with no questions. Jon is lazy w/o a job, are SAHMs lazy? Jon just wants to sponge off Kate and take her hard earned money, is that what SAHMS do?

Double standard indeed.

 

[kidshop]

want to play a drinking game for the book? use the word normal

http://www.zondervan.com/media/samples/pdf/0310318963_samptxt.pdf

I think Kate may have actually written this one.

Kate passed normal about the time she decided to have the show be their life!

 

[DMRick]

If Jon wants to be with his kids when Kate can't be, I think he should be allowed, as long as he can be counted on (Kate would need him to show up when he said he was). What I'm having trouble understanding, is that Jon didn't like being a sahd by his own admission. It's hard to re-live your twenties and be a sahd to 8 kids. Being a custodial parent to that many kids takes a lot of organizing even if you have a lot of help. Heck, just arranging all the help takes orgainization skills that I just don't know if Jon has. So, if he really doesn't/didn't want to be that, wouldn't the next logical move be, to get a job, or go back to school to train to do something he does like? Also, if Jon wants to now be the sahd, would he live in the same house as Kate? Or would he buy one close? Or would Kate have to leave the kids home, where she now lives, because she's off working and Jon would be the custodial parent? I know I wouldn't want my ex husband living in the same home as me.

Does the double standard apply to Jon (assuming he wants to be there)? He is the parent who is not the breadwinner, and is available to take care of the kids. Many stay at home moms are in his exact position after a divorce and they would get the kids with no questions. Jon is lazy w/o a job, are SAHMs lazy? Jon just wants to sponge off Kate and take her hard earned money, is that what SAHMS do?

Double standard indeed.

 

[madge]

I know I wouldn't want my ex husband living in the same home as me.

I understood the whole idea of not uprooting the children, but I never understood how Jon & Kate thought the sharing of the house would work out when they wrote that into their agreement.

 

[Dee77]

I agree with DMRick that if Jon becomes a more prominent, involved parent that he has to be accountable. The comparison to whether he has a genuine interest in being a SAHD is where I differ. I think he was overwhelmed a couple of years ago with being home with them and maybe it would be different now because they are all in school full-time and are more self sufficient. I guess I am hopeful that he can be more involved because he did seem to have a fun time with them and tried to explore each of their unique personalities and interests.

 

[3prettyprincesses]

want to play a drinking game for the book? use the word normal

http://www.zondervan.com/media/samples/pdf/0310318963_samptxt.pdf

I think Kate may have actually written this one.

Good grief, apparently 'normal' is her new favorite word! I read through the whole thing and I have to say, it was bizarre. She talks about her fans as if there were pests that she wanted to shoo away. She even said that she feels that fans are more concerned about what they can get from her rather than respecting her situation. And then she goes on to say that she was frankly annoyed that fans wouldn't leave her alone. Does she understand the meaning of the word celebrity? Madge, I'm thinking that all of your friend's reports were true out there when Kate came last year. She is saying that basically she wished they'd all leave her alone and because she felt that way, she handled them (the fans) badly.

What's even more disturbing is hearing her complain that all she wants is a normal life, to be left alone and inconspicuous. Which is why she's on DWTS then, right? Because that's low profile. I hate to say it but I think she is really self delusional. Reading that gave a perfect glimpse into how she really thinks.

Did anyone else think it was gross that Kate left baked goods as presents on top of the garbage for the trash men?? Ewwww! Who would eat that?

 

[madge]

Did anyone else think it was gross that Kate left baked goods as presents on top of the garbage for the trash men?? Ewwww! Who would eat that?

my mom does that. LOL. she double bags the cookies and sets them in a box or something.

now. whether or no they get eaten is anyone's guess

 

[whitneyNC]

What are Kate and Tony doing on DWTS tonight? Song? Style? Will the style of dance be apparent even after the show?

 

[talulabelle]

Kate passed normal about the time she decided to have the show be their life!

"and their life was their show....blah blah blah"

 

[3prettyprincesses]

What are Kate and Tony doing on DWTS tonight? Song? Style? Will the style of dance be apparent even after the show?

I believe they are doing the Tango. Should be interesting...

 

[talulabelle]

want to play a drinking game for the book? use the word normal

http://www.zondervan.com/media/samples/pdf/0310318963_samptxt.pdf

I think Kate may have actually written this one.

bleh, I could't get through the opeing pages. I think I stopped at -"I want to
share with each of my eight children about our life together so they
will know without a shadow of a doubt how much I love them and
how much every decision and sacrifice I made was worth it for them."

Vomit smiley needed. Yeah, no one else sacrificed at all for the kids....Jon..people that made donations...their church...Jodi and Kevin...Beth...neighbor that folded all the laundry without so much as a thank you (at least on screen), people that redid the house, people that gave them a van that wasn't good enough for her because it wasn't new. no one else. It was all Kate. Uh huh. Yep, those kids will know beyond a shadow of a doubt alright.

 

[DMRick]

I definately think she wrote this book.

I got the idea she was talking about when they first started, and that people wouldn't leave her and the kids alone when she was out. And that may be why she feels she needs Steve. I think that just because you are 'famous' shouldn't mean that people should come up to you and expect when you have 8 kids to take care of, (or even if you are by yourself) that you should focus your attention on the fans. I do think she is trying to explain why she seems distant to the fans when they have gone up to her. She prob thought she was explaining why she seemed hard to get too. It doesn't matter what or how she explains anything now..the damage is done, people think she is standoffish and she can try to explain her focus wasn't the fans, but, well, it's too late.

We've had several movies done in our area, a pretty famous one with Barbra Strisand (ok, I am not saying Kate is in the same league) and she had to have someone with her as she went about, because people thought they could touch her, intertrupt her meals and that she should talk to them whenever they saw her out and about. She's a sweetheart and yet things were said about her standoffish behavior when she was here. Jack Nickolson was another one, who wanted to be left alone when shooting a movie here. Except it was said he could just stare you down and say nothing and the fans would back off LOL.

I read the whole thing that was posted, and I just thought, why would people be so rude to go up to someone..save it for the book signings, or actual appearances. I do think she is living in a dream world, if she thinks she can be on a program like DWTS, and be left alone. Isn't going to happen.

Good grief, apparently 'normal' is her new favorite word! I read through the whole thing and I have to say, it was bizarre. She talks about her fans as if there were pests that she wanted to shoo away. She even said that she feels that fans are more concerned about what they can get from her rather than respecting her situation. And then she goes on to say that she was frankly annoyed that fans wouldn't leave her alone. Does she understand the meaning of the word celebrity? Madge, I'm thinking that all of your friend's reports were true out there when Kate came last year. She is saying that basically she wished they'd all leave her alone and because she felt that way, she handled them (the fans) badly.

What's even more disturbing is hearing her complain that all she wants is a normal life, to be left alone and inconspicuous. Which is why she's on DWTS then, right? Because that's low profile. I hate to say it but I think she is really self delusional. Reading that gave a perfect glimpse into how she really thinks.

Did anyone else think it was gross that Kate left baked goods as presents on top of the garbage for the trash men?? Ewwww! Who would eat that?

 

[kidshop]

Good grief, apparently 'normal' is her new favorite word! I read through the whole thing and I have to say, it was bizarre. She talks about her fans as if there were pests that she wanted to shoo away. She even said that she feels that fans are more concerned about what they can get from her rather than respecting her situation. And then she goes on to say that she was frankly annoyed that fans wouldn't leave her alone. Does she understand the meaning of the word celebrity? Madge, I'm thinking that all of your friend's reports were true out there when Kate came last year. She is saying that basically she wished they'd all leave her alone and because she felt that way, she handled them (the fans) badly.

What's even more disturbing is hearing her complain that all she wants is a normal life, to be left alone and inconspicuous. Which is why she's on DWTS then, right? Because that's low profile. I hate to say it but I think she is really self delusional. Reading that gave a perfect glimpse into how she really thinks.

Did anyone else think it was gross that Kate left baked goods as presents on top of the garbage for the trash men?? Ewwww! Who would eat that?

I'm glad I'm not the only one who thought that! What a bunch of whiney crud! It's all about how tough things are for HER, how is she supposed to take her own kids to the doctor? Shame on them for getting sick and needing to be seen and needing medicine on different days. Where is she supposed to get babysitter, it's all about MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE. No other mother in the history of the world has faced these problems like she has seems to be her view. Well, we just do it. And don't mention every second how much we sacrifice and how hard it is.