Now Madge....you never know...maybe there wasn't a video camera in sight and Jon honestly went in front of those 1,000 people seeking true redemption.![]()
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just like Kate was surprised to see the paps when she showed up on the beach in her orange bikini.

Now Madge....you never know...maybe there wasn't a video camera in sight and Jon honestly went in front of those 1,000 people seeking true redemption.![]()
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Good Lord! Who is this person? It seems like it's someone who actually works for Kate possibly? How on earth did they get this info. and quotes from Kate? If it's real, I'm pretty speechless.
just like Kate was surprised to see the paps when she showed up on the beach in her orange bikini.![]()
So strange, that the paps would be following her, perhaps the biggest story of the year, isn't it?
Wasn't there close-up some bikini shot of the 'girls' that had us all laughing one day this summer? 
Good Lord! Who is this person? It seems like it's someone who actually works for Kate possibly? How on earth did they get this info. and quotes from Kate? If it's real, I'm pretty speechless.
Good Lord! Who is this person? It seems like it's someone who actually works for Kate possibly? How on earth did they get this info. and quotes from Kate? If it's real, I'm pretty speechless.

How come nothing about Kate is ever considered true but the most bizzare thing about Jon is readily accepted?


What's so bad about the Vanity Fair article?
Good Lord! Who is this person? It seems like it's someone who actually works for Kate possibly? How on earth did they get this info. and quotes from Kate? If it's real, I'm pretty speechless.
it's not terribly flattering, for either of them.
We are the crazy people who can not get enough of them & need to follow every move they make in all types of mediaI have to say......I believe every word of that article. If any of it was made up TLC would be suing. I am surprised TLC let a reporter get that close, but I don't think any of it is made up.
I have to say......I believe every word of that article. If any of it was made up TLC would be suing. I am surprised TLC let a reporter get that close, but I don't think any of it is made up.
It wasn't flattering for us eitherWe are the crazy people who can not get enough of them & need to follow every move they make in all types of media

I thought we knew everything that was said already. The only thing I saw new was that Jon had been going out until the bar closes for months before he was caught by the Paps.
it's not terribly flattering, for either of them.
who counseled them to save the brand of J&K+8. Crazy. Jon said he was trying to save his marriage and that was advice Dr. Phil gave. Nice.he had an epiphany about a week ago.. dating Hailey and having a Jewish lawyer makes him feel half-Jewish![]()



I'm wondering the same thing.. Unless the info comes directly from the lips of Jon and/or Kate - or is a legal document - I tend to take all of this stuff with a grain of salt..
Good question.. Seems to be a trend - LOL.. Believe me, I'm no "Jon" fan either, but people do tend to be biased in favor of Kate and make all kinds of excuses for her.. Everything from "unreliable sources and/or paid sources" to "everything is purposely edited to make her look bad".. Neither one of them need to be "edited" to look bad - they do a fine job on their own..
The only thing that I believe 100% is what I hear when their lips are moving..![]()


No kidding. Well we finally know that Jon was telling the truth about Kate ending their marriage last Oct. He wanted her to go to counseling and she refused. Then they only went to Dr. Philsad2
who counseled them to save the brand of J&K+8. Crazy. Jon said he was trying to save his marriage and that was advice Dr. Phil gave. Nice.
We also know too that he'd been staying in the apartment above the garage since last fall.
It certainly doesn't paint a pretty picture of either of them. Kate especially if you ask me. She came across as cold, heartless and selfish. Sorry, that's the way I took it.
I think it depends on which side of the fence you tend to drift towards, it seems to me that many are very biased towards Jon. If Kate had pulled some of the stunts Jon has over the last 8 months...oh my.
Loved the episode tonight, the kids all seemed to enjoy being with each parent. I don't think I have ever seen Kate laugh so much, I will say it again..I think they J & K are much better apart.
I would have been freaking over all those birds on me!![]()
No kidding. Well we finally know that Jon was telling the truth about Kate ending their marriage last Oct. He wanted her to go to counseling and she refused. Then they only went to Dr. Philsad2
who counseled them to save the brand of J&K+8. Crazy. Jon said he was trying to save his marriage and that was advice Dr. Phil gave. Nice.
We also know too that he'd been staying in the apartment above the garage since last fall.
It certainly doesn't paint a pretty picture of either of them. Kate especially if you ask me. She came across as cold, heartless and selfish. Sorry, that's the way I took it.