Jon and Kate Plus 8, Official Thread--Part 7

[MAKmom]

Jon is doing what many actors with a hit show has done. He quits thinking I am so famous I can do anything or demands too much & is cut loose. Except for George Clooney it does not always work out well.

 

[MAKmom]

http://www.radaronline.com/photos/i...in-and-hailey-glassman-take-carriage-ride-nyc

Jon & Hailey party in NYC

 

[mikki'smom]

For the life of me I still can not shake the feeling that we are all being "played" by all this Jon and Kate drama....sort of like the "Balloon Boy" hoax...now Jon and Kate are celebrities...TLC is a household name...the list goes on and on...people in advertising couldn't think up things this good...the truth of all this is that with "reality" TV even though the set is turned off the show keeps on going because this is somebody's real life and we are all so sucked in that I can see myself five years down the road commenting on Jon and Kate, page 383859 about.....

 

[TanyaLovesPooh]

I think (just my own opinion) that Jon does not like to work 'regular' jobs. But I think he likes the attention TV gives him (just not being second fiddle to Kate). I just wonder..maybe he didn't want to just get paid, but wanted to be on TV..for instance the divorced dads show, or some other reality show. Since he had to be exclusive to TLC, he wanted out. Holding the kids for a bargaining chip might have been that out. Except he forgot that TV stations will not lay down and let contracts be broke..otherwise anyone not wanting to continue would just break their contract.

Jon likes the attention? What in the world gave you that idea? I mean it isn't like he constantly gives interviews to the paps that follow him or hang out at his fence where the paps are.

I think Jon wanted to something more "hip." I think he wanted to shed the boring dad image and do something "cool." Unfortunately he hooked up with Michael Lohan...who, I don't even know why he would be on a show about Divorced Dads, considering his children don't speak to him, but none the less, I think at first this seemed like a good idea to Jon...then Michael Lohan hooked him up with the creepy lawyer. The creepy lawyer told Jon he knew how to get him out of his TLC contract. Creepy lawyer said "Don't worry, I will take care of everything, no problem." Jon being Jon, believed Creepy lawyer and here we are. At some point though Jon figured out Divorced Dad Club wasn't a good idea and now he doesn't know what to do. Unfortunately it doesn't seem like he has figured out yet that Creepy lawyer needs to go.

Yes, the creepy lawyer does need to go if it isn't too late already.

http://www.radaronline.com/photos/i...in-and-hailey-glassman-take-carriage-ride-nyc

Jon & Hailey party in NYC

Come on now....we need warnings to go with such photo's, such as:

this photo may cause nausea

For the life of me I still can not shake the feeling that we are all being "played" by all this Jon and Kate drama....sort of like the "Balloon Boy" hoax...now Jon and Kate are celebrities...TLC is a household name...the list goes on and on...people in advertising couldn't think up things this good...the truth of all this is that with "reality" TV even though the set is turned off the show keeps on going because this is somebody's real life and we are all so sucked in that I can see myself five years down the road commenting on Jon and Kate, page 383859 about.....

That has always been in the back of my mind as well, especially in the beginning with the separation announcement.

 

[WaltD4Me]

http://www.radaronline.com/photos/i...in-and-hailey-glassman-take-carriage-ride-nyc

Jon & Hailey party in NYC

Hailey has an "odd" sense of style....are those leather pants she has on? And a black fur shrug/vest?

And on a side note, I can't remember the last time I saw a picture of Jon without a cigarette in his hand.

 

[GJM]

Whatever Hailey has on looks awful!

 

[newtodis]

I was just catching up on my DVR'd stuff from this week and have a couple of things to add:

*How to DVR recordings affect the ratings? Does it count that I DRV'd the show then count again when I watch it? Sorry, I know that's kind of dumb but I still thought I'd ask...

*I was catching up on Dr Phil and in the first few minutes of Friday's show (I only caught part of it - DVR'd too far and not paying enough attention) but Mitch Albom was talking about his new book and how he was researching his new book (Little Piece of Heaven or something) and without getting too much into religion, Mitch commented that in his experience (this is how I took the statement) that the people he'd seen in the homeless shelters and people who have nothing (like J&K in the beginning) have so much faith because they need something to keep them going but then when you get millionares you don't find as much faith because they have everything and don't think they need to have the faith. (sorry if that didn't make a lot of sense - I'm trying to be as vague as possible so I don't get myself in trouble with the religon) It made a bit of sense - you heard J&K do praying and things like that in the beginning when they "needed" to have faith and now that they think they have everything, they don't "need" faith as much. (not trying to start a debate - just sharing something I'd seen and thought it kind of applied here)

 

[newtodis]

Ok I looked at the pictures from Jon and Hailey - was there not a "real" driver with them???? I don't know that I would trust Jon to drive a freakin horse in NYC I'm not sure about Hailey's outfit - was she trying to do like leggins and a longer shirt with a vest?? That's kind of what it looked like she was trying to do but it wasn't a flattering look...

And I meant to say earlier - Why the heck was Jon out at the fence again?? Hasn't the freaking attorney told him to stay in the freaking house??? He hasn't learned yet??

 

[redrosesix]

I wonder if both he and Kate have known for a bit about the title change..it just hadn't been announced to us.

According to Kate, she did know in advance. It's after minute 4 in this link:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l3vzOET1tnM&feature=related

She never says whether Jon knew about it in advance.

 

[C.Ann]

Here's another article about the Good Housekeeping photo shoot:

The Photo Shoot for Good Housekeeping's November Issue Reveals a Family Sinking into Chaos
October 07, 2008 by Susan Braun

A picture is worth a thousand words, so they say.

A recent episode of the wildly-popular Jon and Kate Plus Eight features the family in a Good Housekeeping magazine photo shoot. Just what do the pictures reveal?

First things first. Let's start at the beginning of the episode. Jon and Kate are sitting on the ever-present sofa, discussing their delight at being featured on the cover of Good Housekeeping, which Kate terms "a very reputable magazine". I guess their previous articles in National Enquirer and US Weekly weren't deemed to be so reputable, huh? She goes on to state that the article and photo will be great exposure "for the show, and for our family". I don't know about you, but I don't generally look for more exposure for my family. Hmmmm ...

We learn that the Good Housekeeping photo staff of 23 will be visiting the Gosselins' house for the first part of the shoot. "No, this is not something we enjoy," Kate tells us, just before she is shown with makeup artists who have set up a studio in her home and will be styling her hair and makeup. They also ask about the children's hair and we learn that Mady and Cara, the 7-year-olds, will need blow-outs.

We see Jon having his makeup applied as well, and he tells us, "I'm not comfortable with it either, but it's the way it has to be." Apparently someone is holding guns to Jon and Kate's heads, because the last time I heard, no one can force you to do a photo shoot or do a reality TV show based on your family.

The family heads out to their back deck, dressed in beautiful fall clothing. Jon informs us that it is 93 degrees, but that the crew has brought leaves, pumpkins and other decor to make the deck look more fall-like. The photographer begins shooting, shouting out encouragements such as, "Mom, you look GORGEOUS!" Jon and Kate can apparently hold smiles forever, but the kids are less enthusiastic. Most of them are shown melting down at one time or another, and saddest of all is Cara, the quiet twin. The family later discovers that she is looking sad in most every photo. Clearly, she knows something is wrong with this whole set-up. Dressing for fall in the summer heat? Decorating our deck to look like October in the middle of July? That's got to create some major cognitive dissonance in little minds.

The dissonance continues inside, where we head for more photos. We learn that the crew is decorating the house for fall, and Jon tells us that they all "pretend to do an art project" for some great photo shots. Think: how odd would you find it if you were 4 years old and your parent told you that you would be pretending to do a project so that a bunch of strangers could take photos of you? Hmmm ....

The day ends, but unfortunately we're not done with the photo shoot. No, the next day the family is driven in a bus to the Good Housekeeping studio for another shoot. Jon tells us that "The most important thing is that the kids get comfortable with the crew so they act natural." Hmmmm ... I would think the most important thing might be trying to ensure that the kids have fun, or learn something, but I guess I'm just being naive.

The kids do proceed to act natural, if by that you mean fussing, crying, and being temperamental during the shoot. Jon and Kate smile away, but the photographers have a heck of a time getting the kids to all cooperate. Finally some joy ensues when a crew member brings out a dog to play with the kids, as a pre-arranged treat. They do seem to love the dog, and Kate tells us that despite all evidence to the contrary, the kids "consider these days fun ... different people to play with, rewards ..." I guess they prefer adult crews over children their own age to play with? Hmmmm ....

We end the program with the final cover shot, which does capture most of the kids looking at least relatively happy. Not bad for two days' worth of shots, huh? The backstage glimpses are far more revealing.



And here are the youtube clips from that photo shoot, Picture Perfect:

Clip1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=43aD...EDE70C5A&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=50

Clip2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yG8T02azgjQ&feature=related

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And this is called "playing" - right? Not "work"? Hmmmmm...

 

[madge]

Except for George Clooney it does not always work out well.

Ahhh George .. I do love my George ... We share a hometown, and his dad graduated high school with my aunt

 

[madge]

Jon is doing what many actors with a hit show has done. He quits thinking I am so famous I can do anything or demands too much & is cut loose.

the same could be said for Kate, as well. She's banking on her fame to pursue other things... she's using a different approach, but it's the same thing.

 

[MAKmom]

I was just catching up on my DVR'd stuff from this week and have a couple of things to add:

*How to DVR recordings affect the ratings? Does it count that I DRV'd the show then count again when I watch it? Sorry, I know that's kind of dumb but I still thought I'd ask...

*I was catching up on Dr Phil and in the first few minutes of Friday's show (I only caught part of it - DVR'd too far and not paying enough attention) but Mitch Albom was talking about his new book and how he was researching his new book (Little Piece of Heaven or something) and without getting too much into religion, Mitch commented that in his experience (this is how I took the statement) that the people he'd seen in the homeless shelters and people who have nothing (like J&K in the beginning) have so much faith because they need something to keep them going but then when you get millionares you don't find as much faith because they have everything and don't think they need to have the faith. (sorry if that didn't make a lot of sense - I'm trying to be as vague as possible so I don't get myself in trouble with the religon) It made a bit of sense - you heard J&K do praying and things like that in the beginning when they "needed" to have faith and now that they think they have everything, they don't "need" faith as much. (not trying to start a debate - just sharing something I'd seen and thought it kind of applied here)

I think it counts just when you record it not how many times you watch it. If your talking about ratings. But does it matter if your not a Nielsen family?

 

[DMRick]

the same could be said for Kate, as well. She's banking on her fame to pursue other things... she's using a different approach, but it's the same thing.

I think Kate has a better chance than Jon, once J & K + 8 is done. Jon seems to think if he quits he'll do well. I'd be very surprised. I think Kate has more drive, so she may do OK for awhile. I think that is what the PP meant. GC quit because he was popular and thought he would do well. He did, but many other stars have not been heard from since they quit their popular series. Several quit from the same show as GC, and we can hardly remember them.

 

[MAKmom]

the same could be said for Kate, as well. She's banking on her fame to pursue other things... she's using a different approach, but it's the same thing.

Kate did not quit the show it is not the same thing. Kate knows she has a good thing & never would end it... thinking she is all that. Jon is walking away like others have thinking they are so famous & they always will be in demand.

 

[madge]

I think Kate has a better chance than Jon, once J & K + 8 is done. Jon seems to think if he quits he'll do well. I'd be very surprised. I think Kate has more drive, so she may do OK for awhile. I think that is what the PP meant. GC quit because he was popular and thought he would do well. He did, but many other stars have not been heard from since they quit their popular series. Several quit from the same show as GC, and we can hardly remember them.

those are very valid points ... but I have no doubt that there have been people inflating Kate's self esteem, making her think she's more talented or famous than she is. That would be consistent with things that have been reported about her ego over the years.

 

[madge]

Kate did not quit the show it is not the same thing.

that is true.

 

[newtodis]

I think it counts just when you record it not how many times you watch it. If your talking about ratings. But does it matter if your not a Nelson family?

I have no idea - how do I find out if I am one??

 

[Buckalew11]

DMRick, I think Jon wants a career in TV but doesn't want to be controlled by TLC any longer. He may have decided to take his kids off TV but, I think instead of deciding it was in their best interest, it was more about cutting off Kate's future bread and butter. When season 4 was finished, he pretty much knew the marriage was over and he wanted off. He was vocal about that and at the time, I don't think we knew exactly why but once the photos started coming out and the affairs were reported, it all made sense.
So while he likes the attention, he doesn't want Kate's show to continue. JMHO. (Plus, I think they both love the attention. They've always filmed and photographed their whole relationship. I think they both love attention like this.)

I was just catching up on my DVR'd stuff from this week and have a couple of things to add:

*How to DVR recordings affect the ratings? Does it count that I DRV'd the show then count again when I watch it? Sorry, I know that's kind of dumb but I still thought I'd ask...

*I was catching up on Dr Phil and in the first few minutes of Friday's show (I only caught part of it - DVR'd too far and not paying enough attention) but Mitch Albom was talking about his new book and how he was researching his new book (Little Piece of Heaven or something) and without getting too much into religion, Mitch commented that in his experience (this is how I took the statement) that the people he'd seen in the homeless shelters and people who have nothing (like J&K in the beginning) have so much faith because they need something to keep them going but then when you get millionares you don't find as much faith because they have everything and don't think they need to have the faith. (sorry if that didn't make a lot of sense - I'm trying to be as vague as possible so I don't get myself in trouble with the religon) It made a bit of sense - you heard J&K do praying and things like that in the beginning when they "needed" to have faith and now that they think they have everything, they don't "need" faith as much. (not trying to start a debate - just sharing something I'd seen and thought it kind of applied here)

So true, so true. It holds very true a lot of the time. Been there myself and see it everyday. Money equals power so often and power makes one tend to think they are god-like. Since Adam and Eve, it's been an issue. Some things will never change...

 

[WaltD4Me]

Ok I looked at the pictures from Jon and Hailey - was there not a "real" driver with them???? I don't know that I would trust Jon to drive a freakin horse in NYC I'm not sure about Hailey's outfit - was she trying to do like leggins and a longer shirt with a vest?? That's kind of what it looked like she was trying to do but it wasn't a flattering look...

And I meant to say earlier - Why the heck was Jon out at the fence again?? Hasn't the freaking attorney told him to stay in the freaking house??? He hasn't learned yet??

When was he at the fence again? I missed it.

The Fence, The Insider, no difference. Saw a promo he is going to be on
The Insider again Monday night.

When