Jon and Kate Plus 8, Official Thread--Part 7

[Lisa loves Pooh]

The best way to keep the thread open is to not try and combat each post. If someone says something you don't agree with...it is fine to post what you do agree with, but no need to argue with and combat every last detail of posts of people that don't agree with you.Everyone should be allowed to call it the way they see it. There will be no "winner" or prizes awarded at the end of the thread.

ETA : this was a general "you " to everyone on thread, not to you newtodis....

Well darn--I wanted me some prizes!!!!


Sometimes I cannot help myself. I like to continue a debate, it isn't meant that I have to be right or not...however I do feel slammed at the moment so was trying to address some key points.

I'll stop now.

Don't all cheer at once.

 

[MAKmom]

NO, I WOULDN'T!

I'm so tired of hearing that every mother of eight would be a spoon-hitting, ball-busting, self-absorbed narcissist.

I have five children, my two best friends each have eight children, another dear friend has seven... and oh, wait... I forgot another friend who has eight and other friends who have six.

None of us are like Kate Gosselin. I'm not saying that being a mom of a big family is easy but it's not as hard as you might think.

Wow....that is amazing in this day & age to know so many large families. Even when I was a kid you only new a few.

Are you a Special Group of people?

 

[talulabelle]

Wow....that is amazing in this day & age to know so many large families. Even when I was a kid you only new a few.

Are you a Special Group of people?

I don't know what you meant by Special Group??? but I don't find this odd...I grew up on a street full of devout Catholic families and we were the smallest family on the street with 6 kids in the family. The average was 8 and one family had 13. I agree that this is not as common now, but I would say the average number of kids among my friends is 4. I have a friend with 8. 2 friends with 6. I know of a woman near by with 7. I know of 3 women on my street with older familes of 9 and on with 6 teenagers. I don't know if it is a regional thing, but really not that surprising to me. Yes, the majority of people I know have 3 or less....but there are still many large familes out there.

 

[Lisa loves Pooh]

Wow....that is amazing in this day & age to know so many large families. Even when I was a kid you only new a few.

Are you a Special Group of people?

I know a few families with 5 or more children.

My husband's uncle has 10 children (the youngest just graduated high school while the oldest has been an attorney for several years already--not sure the age difference).

I know one family locally with 10 children and a few with 6-8.

Not a special group of people so much as they still are out there. It is unusual in that people usually expect families with 1-4 children.

But it is more common than I thought.

 

[newtodis]

The best way to keep the thread open is to not try and combat each post. If someone says something you don't agree with...it is fine to post what you do agree with, but no need to argue with and combat every last detail of posts of people that don't agree with you.Everyone should be allowed to call it the way they see it. There will be no "winner" or prizes awarded at the end of the thread.

ETA : this was a general "you " to everyone on thread, not to you newtodis....

Thanks! I agree Hard as it may be, I try my best to skip over posts and not answer or debate each one. Sometimes I can do it and sometimes not!

And thanks - I didn't think you meant "me".

 

[VillageMama]

Are you a Special Group of people?

Hee! Well, I think so!

But aside from being child-loving, practising Catholics, we're really rather ordinary.

Where did you go to school?

The School of Hard Knocks, baby! I majored in Life Experience. I should be getting my PhD any day now. <--- that's me

Obviously I am not qualified to diagnose Kate to the extent of prescribing her medication or anything. If she plays a mom on t.v. then I can play a shrink on the Internet.

 

[Lisa loves Pooh]

Obviously I am not qualified to diagnose Kate to the extent of prescribing her medication or anything. If she plays a mom on t.v. then I can play a shrink on the Internet.

I don't care who you are--that's funny right there!

 

[wdwmom0f3]

Wow, I have three and I'm not to sure that I could handle anymore. There are not to many families around here with more than three or four children that I know of.

You know, what has happened to Jon & Kate is really sad. My DD was watching one of, if not the very first show of Jon & Kate where they lived in the first house when the kids were born. Jon & Kate seemed to sweet and down to earth back then. Now look at what time, money and fame has done to them. It's really sad.

 

[walden]

The best way to keep the thread open is to not try and combat each post. If someone says something you don't agree with...it is fine to post what you do agree with, but no need to argue with and combat every last detail of posts of people that don't agree with you.Everyone should be allowed to call it the way they see it. There will be no "winner" or prizes awarded at the end of the thread.

ETA : this was a general "you " to everyone on thread, not to you newtodis....

I completely agree with the above!

I for one wasn't surprised by the outcome of the hearing this morning, or by the rather over-the-top statements of both attorneys. That is just lawyer-speak IMO -- Perhaps I've followed too many court cases on TV?

If Mayer has indeed resigned, the case may be delayed still further while Jon finds and retains a new attorney. I do hope they manage to reach a mediated agreement soon for the sake of the children.

The optimist in me that likes to think well of people thinks it is great that extended family (Jon's mother, brothers and Jodi and Kevin) are back in the children's lives. The children always seemed to love Jodi and Kevin and Jon seems to need family support. But then, the cynic in me says that having extended family involvement looks really good in a custody battle . . .

 

[talulabelle]

Hee! Well, I think so!

But aside from being child-loving, practising Catholics, we're really rather ordinary.



The School of Hard Knocks, baby! I majored in Life Experience. I should be getting my PhD any day now. <--- that's me

Obviously I am not qualified to diagnose Kate to the extent of prescribing her medication or anything. If she plays a mom on t.v. then I can play a shrink on the Internet.

 

[kidshop]

Hee! Well, I think so!

But aside from being child-loving, practising Catholics, we're really rather ordinary.



The School of Hard Knocks, baby! I majored in Life Experience. I should be getting my PhD any day now. <--- that's me

Obviously I am not qualified to diagnose Kate to the extent of prescribing her medication or anything. If she plays a mom on t.v. then I can play a shrink on the Internet.

I can spot a narcissist. I know a few IRL, it's not a clinical diagnosis, it's more of a personality trait in the way I am using the term. It has to do with the ability to 'see' other people and be able to understand how your actions affect them. Oh and CARE how your actions affect them!

 

[walden]

I can spot a narcissist. I know a few IRL, it's not a clinical diagnosis, it's more of a personality trait in the way I am using the term. It has to do with the ability to 'see' other people and be able to understand how your actions affect them. Oh and CARE how your actions affect them!

Hmm. As I try to remember those clinical courses I took so long ago in Social Work School, I'd say that Kate has some traits that *might* be consistent with NPD. But I wouldn't diagnose . . .

I've also said before that I've considered some of her behaviour towards Jon as consistent with emotional and verbal abuse, and some of Jon's affect and behaviours as consistent with a victim of abuse.

Now where is the icon for "runs away and hides under the couch"?

 

[Teacher03]

Wow, I have three and I'm not to sure that I could handle anymore. There are not to many families around here with more than three or four children that I know of.

You know, what has happened to Jon & Kate is really sad. My DD was watching one of, if not the very first show of Jon & Kate where they lived in the first house when the kids were born. Jon & Kate seemed to sweet and down to earth back then. Now look at what time, money and fame has done to them. It's really sad.

I was just going to post the same thing. I never watched the show, but it is difficult to get away from all the Jon and Kate media lately. But I have been home sick a couple of days and they are showing the first couple of shows, and they seemed happy, sweet, and in love. They made the statement that they could do anything because they were a family of ten and would always be a family looking out for one another. Even the kids were happier. It is very sad.

 

[DMRick]

The best way to keep the thread open is to not try and combat each post. If someone says something you don't agree with...it is fine to post what you do agree with, but no need to argue with and combat every last detail of posts of people that don't agree with you.Everyone should be allowed to call it the way they see it. There will be no "winner" or prizes awarded at the end of the thread.

 

[madge]

Obviously I am not qualified to diagnose Kate to the extent of prescribing her medication or anything. If she plays a mom on t.v. then I can play a shrink on the Internet.

love. it.

 

[OhMari]

Radar Online must have gotten a sneak peak at tonite's show.

VIDEO: Kate Gosselin "I Don't Want To Be Alone - The Aloneness Is So Alone"

If she feels this way, why isn't she fighting to save her marriage.

Kate Gosselin sits down with the cameras and answers the questions we are all dying to know.

VIDEO: Jon Pays Up And Kate Complies With Court Order

In an hour long Jon And Kate Plus 8 special airing Monday night on TLC, the single mom of 8 answers questions submitted by viewers truthfully and fully.

PHOTOS: Kate Ditches Her Wedding Ring

When asked if she ever sees herself married again, a melancholy Kate says "I really don't want to be married again - can you blame me? But I don't want
to be alone, the aloneness is so alone."
EXCLUSIVE PHOTOS: The Gosselin Dogs - Jon And The Kids Miss Them

And when asked where she sees herself and the kids in ten years time, Kate confesses that she doesn't "project anymore", but that if she had her
choice, "Myself and my kids in 10 years will be happy, healthy - I would love my TV career to be successful. I would love to not be alone, but nobody
is going to buy into my mess."

PHOTOS: Jon And The Kids Hang Out At Home

It's not all serious reflection though. When asked what Kate thinks of the new "Kate Gosselin wig" that's doing the rounds for Halloween she says, "I
laughed my head off! That is just plain ridiculous. I hear everywhere there's going to be all these Jon and Kate's for Halloween."

Catch the full special Monday on TLC, 9/8 central.

I feel Kate is looking through a tunnel, and the only thing she wants to see is a tv career for herself, and nothing else.

 

[C.Ann]

Radar Online must have gotten a sneak peak at tonite's show.


If she feels this way, why isn't she fighting to save her marriage.



I feel Kate is looking through a tunnel, and the only thing she wants to see is a tv career for herself, and nothing else.

If she would love to have a successful t.v. career, does that mean working at McDonald's to feed her kids is no longer on the table??

I have the feeling that her "question and answer" segment tonight is going to be a real yaaaaawner... Zzzzzzzzz...

 

[DMRick]

Obviously I am not qualified to diagnose Kate to the extent of prescribing her medication or anything. If she plays a mom on t.v. then I can play a shrink on the Internet.

Ok, I admit it, that was pretty funny.

 

[DMRick]

I just wanted to be sure you knew I wasn't laughing at you, but at the idea that we don't respond to every last detail of posts of people we don't agree with.

That's pretty much what most on this thread have been doing, for months. It would surely be dull, if we were only allowed to post the parts we agree with each other on.

I understand, that if you don't agree with someone, it looks like you (as in general you) are the only one being argued with, but it really has been pretty much a two way street. It just depends on which side you are on as to how you see it. I don't like it when you (any you out there) disagree with what I say, and I have no problem posting iwhy ahd whatfore. You (that general you) don't like it when I disagree with you and you have no problem posting why and whatfore as well.

It's a problem, when it gets personal, or when someone gets so angry at another's viewpoint, that they call names or get snarky. That's what IMO should stop, so this thread can continue.

The best way to keep the thread open is to not try and combat each post. If someone says something you don't agree with...it is fine to post what you do agree with, but no need to argue with and combat every last detail of posts of people that don't agree with you.Everyone should be allowed to call it the way they see it. There will be no "winner" or prizes awarded at the end of the thread.

 

[MAKmom]

Hee! Well, I think so!

But aside from being child-loving, practising Catholics, we're really rather ordinary.



The School of Hard Knocks, baby! I majored in Life Experience. I should be getting my PhD any day now. <--- that's me

Obviously I am not qualified to diagnose Kate to the extent of prescribing her medication or anything. If she plays a mom on t.v. then I can play a shrink on the Internet.

I had ruled out Amish but I thought maybe Mormon or Evangelist Christens. Knock me over with a feather that you are Chatholics. We are too but everone I know Kates age & even my age have small families. I have the most kids of all our friends & I have 3.We are in the Philadelphia area so maybe it is regional thing.