Jon and Kate Plus 8 Official Thread - Part 6

[momrek06]

Well, all we know is that he didn't make it, since he wasn't home at the time (and Mady and Cara were probably in school, and also probably know how to spell his name, so likely they didn't do it either)

I'm just surprised that Kate hasn't had it taken down.

Okkkkay....HAILEY?









Well I am glad the kiddos were not involved and Kate has probably been instructed by her atty not to touch the sign.....

Watching the Gosselins on all these talk shows etc etc, this just gets sadder and sadder.

And now with The Divorced Dad's Club and Hailey having a large role in the show...I cannot believe that Jon will go through with THIS show and NOT include the kiddos in some way... I mean if it is about Divorced DAD's???

AND he is the one that does not want any more exposure for himself or his kids...esp after his statement on LKL that he has been on every magazine cover since Jan...? Jon confuses me.

 

[redrosesix]

Okkkkay....HAILEY?









Well I am glad the kiddos were not involved and Kate has probably been instructed by her atty not to touch the sign.....

Watching the Gosselins on all these talk shows etc etc, this just gets sadder and sadder.

And now with The Divorced Dad's Club and Hailey having a large role in the show...I cannot believe that Jon will go through with THIS show and NOT include the kiddos in some way... I mean if it is about Divorced DAD's???

AND he is the one that does not want any more exposure for himself or his kids...esp after his statement on LKL that he has been on every magazine cover since Jan...? Jon confuses me.

Considering Hailey's grammar in her tweets (notice they still have something wrong -- it should be are not is) I think Hailey is a strong possibility, although somebody posted there was a video of some unknown guy putting up the sign (but I have yet to see it)

As for the Divorced Dad's Club, I wouldn't even say that Jon is for sure considering it (although we know that Michael Lohan is) since he said he is considering several offers.

And truly, the first stories about this broke before Jon's epiphany, and before he had good advisors. So I'm not ready to worry about that show yet (unless Jon is reading here, in which case I say "Jon -- don't do it")

 

[kidshop]

First off, someone posted a people article and with very minimal exception, people is a pretty reliable source.

I'm not going into semantics over honesty and dishonesty with you at this point. We don't know the full story, so one cannot sit here with a straight face and claim either party is lying.

If you would like to read the link, just go back a few pages. It was freely available for everyone to read.

I'd like to see that link, b/c the one I saw was radar, you know the paragon of truth. Altough I consider People to be pretty sketchy too! It is very interesting that anything about Jon is automatically believed (even down to what he WILL do in the future on a show that doesn't even exist except in concept form to date!), but anything about Kate is deflected and dismissed.

For me, I go by what each says with their own mouths, their actions and then from report from real life encounters, like last weekends diva situation with Kate, and input from those who know them. Not 'sources'. These sources said Kate drinks heavily, beats the kids and is romantically linked with Steve, which I don't necessarily believe and I don't comment on that stuff very often. Jon putting his kids on his new show falls into that category! It's most likely crap.

 

[momrek06]

Jon's epiphany

Oh...yes, that's right I forgot about the "epiphany"!

 

[kidshop]

here's a body language expert's opinion:

http://drlillianglassbodylanguageblog.wordpress.com/

That sign on the fence is just hysterical! It's cringeworthy, but just goes to show money just can't buy you the things you really need to get through life!

(reminder to self to study spelling words with kids tonight)

 

[mousey]

I'd like to see that link, b/c the one I saw was radar, you know the paragon of truth. Altough I consider People to be pretty sketchy too! It is very interesting that anything about Jon is automatically believed (even down to what he WILL do in the future on a show that doesn't even exist except in concept form to date!), but anything about Kate is deflected and dismissed.

For me, I go by what each says with their own mouths, their actions and then from report from real life encounters, like last weekends diva situation with Kate, and input from those who know them. Not 'sources'. These sources said Kate drinks heavily, beats the kids and is romantically linked with Steve, which I don't necessarily believe and I don't comment on that stuff very often. Jon putting his kids on his new show falls into that category! It's most likely crap.

ITA!!! I think it helps Kate that TLC is on her side. I wouldn't doubt if they are paying her lawyer fees. On the other hand, I'm glad Jon woke up and got a new lawyer and is trying to make thinks right! Unfortunately, its the kids that are the losers in this situation. The last thing those kids need is to be a part of taping of their parents divorce!!!

 

[hbkfan637]

Did anyone watch LKL last night? During the second half, they talked about Jon's interview from the night before. A guy from E! said this, "He hadn't taped in almost two months before that, out of protest. He decided that he was going to be a team player, and then things started to unravel quickly." I don't keep track of when they film so does anyone know when Jon took a break from filming? I don't remember reading that in here.

For anyone that's interested, here's a link to the transcript for last night's show http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0910/02/lkl.01.html

 

[hbkfan637]

Looks like Kate took the sign down.

http://www.radaronline.com/exclusiv...akes-down-jons-sign-barring-tlc-their-pa-home

There's also an article saying that Jon and Kate agreed on a informal custody agreement. There's no details or a named source so who knows if that's true. Hopefully, it is and one parent will always be around.

http://www.radaronline.com/exclusiv...and-kate-gosselin-reach-informal-custody-deal

 

[TanyaLovesPooh]

I'm just surprised that Kate hasn't had it taken down.

She has.....

It's war! Just in case there was any doubt about the state of the dissolving union between Jon and Kate Gosselin, Mrs. G made her feelings perfectly clear when she ripped down a sign Mr. G had hung on the gate to their home.

http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2009/10/new-photos-kate-gosselin-takes-down-jons-sign-barring-tlc-their-pa-home

I think at this point I would take it down too, TLC has suspended filming for now and Jon's point has been made. Why leave it on the ground though?

 

[Nancy]

Oh...My... That is just too funny! I mean if he doesn't know how to spell penalty at least I would think he would know how to spell his OWN NAME.

The article states that possibly one of the kids made the sign...if that is true, that is just disturbing to have Mady or Cara INVOLVED (by making that sign).

I don't think any of them were involved unless they have a printing set to make perfect lines and letters (but no spell check). I think someone made it and then had to correct it...I just hope he didn't pay them

here's a body language expert's opinion:

http://drlillianglassbodylanguageblog.wordpress.com/

That sign on the fence is just hysterical! It's cringeworthy, but just goes to show money just can't buy you the things you really need to get through life!

(reminder to self to study spelling words with kids tonight)

that expert sure put more personal feelings into that than analyzing thebody language

She has.....

It's war! Just in case there was any doubt about the state of the dissolving union between Jon and Kate Gosselin, Mrs. G made her feelings perfectly clear when she ripped down a sign Mr. G had hung on the gate to their home.

http://www.radaronline.com/exclusiv...akes-down-jons-sign-barring-tlc-their-pa-home

I think at this point I would take it down too, TLC has suspended filming for now and Jon's point has been made. Why leave it on the ground though?

maybe that is where she'd like to see Jon..face down on the ground

 

[LoraJ]

I love my BlackBerry. I am sitting here at SAB catching up with this thread. So much has been going on in this saga that my head is spinning.

I need to find Madge so I can get her all caught up.


Now I must get ready for dinner at Yachtsman Steakhouse.

 

[redrosesix]

She has.....

It's war! Just in case there was any doubt about the state of the dissolving union between Jon and Kate Gosselin, Mrs. G made her feelings perfectly clear when she ripped down a sign Mr. G had hung on the gate to their home.

http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2009/10/new-photos-kate-gosselin-takes-down-jons-sign-barring-tlc-their-pa-home

I think at this point I would take it down too, TLC has suspended filming for now and Jon's point has been made. Why leave it on the ground though?

Good question. The funny thing about her taking the sign down is that it will probably get much more publicity now than it did before, given that they have photos of her doing it.

 

[redrosesix]

Did anyone watch LKL last night? During the second half, they talked about Jon's interview from the night before. A guy from E! said this, "He hadn't taped in almost two months before that, out of protest. He decided that he was going to be a team player, and then things started to unravel quickly." I don't keep track of when they film so does anyone know when Jon took a break from filming? I don't remember reading that in here.

For anyone that's interested, here's a link to the transcript for last night's show http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0910/02/lkl.01.html

Dang -- I meant to but I just couldn't stay awake. I have to say, if there is anybody whose judgement I would trust it has to be Dr. Drew. He just tells it like it is, no taking sides, no spin.

And I'm starting to think that reading the transcript can be more revealing than seeing a show -- IMO there are so many words I miss when I'm watching, although the transcript doesn't show the facial expressions or body language of the speaker.

 

[TanyaLovesPooh]

I love my BlackBerry. I am sitting here at SAB catching up with this thread. So much has been going on in this saga that my head is spinning.

I need to find Madge so I can get her all caught up.


Now I must get ready for dinner at Yachtsman Steakhouse.

Hi LoraJ

Hope you guys are having a great time!

 

[kidshop]

Dang -- I meant to but I just couldn't stay awake. I have to say, if there is anybody whose judgement I would trust it has to be Dr. Drew. He just tells it like it is, no taking sides, no spin.

And I'm starting to think that reading the transcript can be more revealing than seeing a show -- IMO there are so many words I miss when I'm watching, although the transcript doesn't show the facial expressions or body language of the speaker.

Dr Drew said that (in paraphrase) that he didn't think filming the show was detrimental to the kids and that Kate seemed to have a good handle on what was best for them.

Ok, then.

 

[mhsjax]

Dr Drew said that (in paraphrase) that he didn't think filming the show was detrimental to the kids and that Kate seemed to have a good handle on what was best for them.

Ok, then.

Do you have a link for that, because have been following Dr Drew for a while and that just doesn't sound like him at all. He pretty much thinks being in the limelight and being a celeb is pretty much a bad thing for you.

 

[Nancy]

Dr Drew said that (in paraphrase) that he didn't think filming the show was detrimental to the kids and that Kate seemed to have a good handle on what was best for them.

Ok, then.

and there you have it...Doctor Drew has spoken...no need for any more discussion


I like Doctor drew..don't get me wrong, but again it is comments from someone who does not spend time with them and see the day to day interactions.. (at least I don't think he has). And for the record, I don't think the filming is harming the kids, I think all this other stuff is. So if the only way to stop all the other stuff is to stop filming then that is what they should do.

 

[kidshop]

Do you have a link for that, because have been following Dr Drew for a while and that just doesn't sound like him at all. He pretty much thinks being in the limelight and being a celeb is pretty much a bad thing for you.

te transcript link is a few posts up, but here is the end part: (pinsky is Dr Drew)

"PINSKY: This is a "Love Line" call. Boy, I mean, it is just so sad. It's a destroyed marriage. It's a family system that's falling apart. He does he have a message, Howard, which is, you know, I want my kids out of the media. I understand that. We're all supposed to resonate with that.

He needs to make his argument. He needs to make his case, because it's not clear that this has been harmful for the kids. At least they get a college fund.

BRAGMAN: I'm not buying this message.

PINSKY: Right. That's the message I think he's trying to hang his hat on. I don't think people are buying it. And they do trust Kate a little more to make the judgment that it seems to be OK for the kids.

MORET: And I think that kids -- we've seen in previous interviews that they seem to have bonded with these crew members. They're used to them. They've grown up with them. They're like pals.

BAKER: Well, however, there is an on-going Pennsylvania State Department of Labor investigation into possible violations of these kids working over hours that they should be, and not --

MORET: They're not performers.

BAKER: Well, they are considered by the state. And they are minors. And we just -- at E!, we contacted the Department of Labor in Pennsylvania. They said, it is on-going. They haven't come to any conclusion. I think there's a lot that we don't know.

MORET: Howard, you have five seconds. What do you think is going to happen here?

BRAGMAN: I think we're going to see a lot of legal wrangling. I think they're going to keep the show on the air. It's a big hit for this network. And they need it. I think they have a contract and they're probably going to be able to keep it on the air. And they will keep it on the air, if Kate does."


I will just never understand how growing up on TV (as yourself as staged by product placement) and your life is the show and the show is your life could be considered ok, even if you get a college fund out of it. This is a social experiment.

 

[redrosesix]

Dr Drew said that (in paraphrase) that he didn't think filming the show was detrimental to the kids and that Kate seemed to have a good handle on what was best for them.

Ok, then.

Sorry Kidshop, but I think you must have misread that transcript. I didn't take that from it at all. He does say that it would have been helpful when he and his wife were raising triplets to have all that help around (not sure what he meant about it being good to have the cameras around because he contradicts that later) and he says that the public trusts Kate a little more to do what is best for the kids. IMO, Dr. Drew has never read this thread -- right now I'm not trusting either of them.

ETA: I think Dr. Drew is talking about the message that Jon is trying to put out -- it needs to be more clear, it needs to say how the children are being harmed by the filming, it needs to show that the harm is more important than the benefits eg. a college fund.

 

[mhsjax]

Sorry Kidshop, but I think you must have misread that transcript. I didn't take that from it at all. He does say that it would have been helpful when he and his wife were raising triplets to have all that help around (not sure what he meant about it being good to have the cameras around because he contradicts that later) and he says that the public trusts Kate a little more to do what is best for the kids. IMO, Dr. Drew has never read this thread -- right now I'm not trusting either of them.

Exactly what I was going to say, Dr Drew states the public trusts Kate more than Jon not that he(dr Drew) trusts Kate. Big Difference. And I am with you also on the fact that I trust neither of them, I think both of them are sneaky and just out for themselves.

I have a niece and she and her hubby have raised 9 kids on one salary and she homeschools them. Kate isn't "just a single mom" doing it all on her own. She is as full of crap as Jon is.AAc