Jon and Kate Plus 8 Official Thread - Part 5

[redrosesix]

I guess Kate didn't get the memo to lock her bedroom door. Jon may be hamming it up for the papp, but it is still another stab at Kate. I used to like Jon, but it's just about gone.

Now how do we know that one of his kids didn't make him wear it -- my DD does that to her dad all the time (he's a good sport) and now that she's practicing putting on make-up...

that's the thing about photos -- there is no context. We don't know why he's wearing the hat, so I refuse to be mad at him for doing it.

 

[WaltD4Me]

Anyone see Jodi and Kevin on the Today show this week? They showed a clip on Entertainment Tonight. I'm pretty sure it's new, but I couldn't believe something got by this thread! They were blaming TLC for making money off family tradegy. It was a short clip. I wonder when the last time they saw the kids, Jon or Kate. They just bug me.

 

[madge]

Now how do we know that one of his kids didn't make him wear it -- my DD does that to her dad all the time (he's a good sport) and now that she's practicing putting on make-up...

that's the thing about photos -- there is no context. We don't know why he's wearing the hat, so I refuse to be mad at him for doing it.

I was thinking the same thing. I thought he was just dorking around. LOL.

 

[madge]

Anyone see Jodi and Kevin on the Today show this week? They showed a clip on Entertainment Tonight. I'm pretty sure it's new, but I couldn't believe something got by this thread! They were blaming TLC for making money off family tradegy. It was a short clip. I wonder when the last time they saw the kids, Jon or Kate. They just bug me.

didn't see it, but from what I understand .. this time they didn't really reference Jon or Kate and just continued their crusade to get the kids off the TV. If that's all it was, then they're just capitalizing on the return of the show. I don't know that that's a bad thing. I'll have to find the video and watch. I reserve the right to alter my opinion. LOLOL.

 

[OhMari]

Anyone see Jodi and Kevin on the Today show this week? They showed a clip on Entertainment Tonight. I'm pretty sure it's new, but I couldn't believe something got by this thread! They were blaming TLC for making money off family tradegy. It was a short clip. I wonder when the last time they saw the kids, Jon or Kate. They just bug me.

Jodie and Kevin said TLC should be ashamed for exploiting these children to the family tragedy of a divorce taking place. Jodie said TLC should stop this insanity and stop making money off these children, while this divorce is proceeding. They did say they have very small limitated contact with the Gosselins, so whatever that is, who knows.

I loved Jodie's red curly hair. It was beautiful, it must take her hours to straighten it out.

 

[TanyaLovesPooh]

http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2009/07/jon-gosselin-single-and-loving-it

 

[mistydoodles]

http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2009/07/jon-gosselin-single-and-loving-it

He loves the attention he gets from being "Jon and Kate plus 8" no matter what he said before. He was only complaining about it because it was then that the media was finding out about his girlfriends. Now that all of that is out he is happy to be getting all this attention.

 

[MusiqChic99]

http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2009/07/jon-gosselin-single-and-loving-it

This stuff it what upsets me so much about tabloids. These aren't girls he invited over...they are fans looking to say hi/get a picture or what not.

It's not like he was leaving the bar with THESE 2 ladies. He was talking to them through a fence and so they put an article out about him loving the single life.

Just like the hat thing...it was funny in my opinion. He could have been playing dress up with the girls. No one knows...but people make money on whatever story they want to make up that fits the picture they got....like the girls at the fence.

I'm sure Jon is loving the single life but talking to those women don't prove that at all.

 

[redrosesix]

He loves the attention he gets from being "Jon and Kate plus 8" no matter what he said before. He was only complaining about it because it was then that the media was finding out about his girlfriends. Now that all of that is out he is happy to be getting all this attention.

Meow!
Well, he wanted out of the show long before Deanna-gate, and he was also complaining about the attention long before that too. In fact, I felt like his biggest complaint was re his family, who all had to get unlisted telephone numbers because they were inundated with calls from fans and tabloid reporters - god help anybody whose last name is Gosselin. It seemed like a reasonable complaint to me.

 

[Disney Mommy 3]

gosh, I just found this thread!! How could I miss it? I can't believe it..there is no way I am gonna be able to go back & read it all. I don't think, maybe!!!! Well, here's my spin...(For what it's worth):
I love Kate!! Used to like Jon too!! But, I always thought he had to be prodded to help and didn't really want to do it. Of course, it makes him come out smelling like a rose and leaves Kate looking mean and bossy!!!
I really feel for her...if he was that upset, and was so unhappy, why didnt he ask to go to marriage counseling. How do you go from renewing your vows one summer and running around like your 17 the next spring? Somethin' fishy Jon!!!! How long has this been going on I wonder. (with him and the girls).
I hope she just keeps hanging in there and being Kate. I pray for her whenever she crosses my mind. She has a strong faith in God and I know He will get her throught this. It's gonna be hard and it's gonna be long, but she'll make it!!!! She is on my top people-to-meet list!!!

 

[Disney Mommy 3]

Respectfully, I disagree. I don't think the show played a huge part in their marriage falling apart. While both sides could have been better throughout the relationship I think he's going through a mid-life crisis. I genuinely believe they were both happy at one point and even up till a year or so ago - look at the body language, the smiles in the earlier footage - were love.

If he really wanted to fix their issues he would have pushed for counseling, etc. - I'm not saying he didn't but there is nothing to indicate he did. He basically, from all accounts, stopped talking to her, partied late at night with women and got his ears pierced. Those are pretty drastic measures to take and don't sound much like "trying to work it out". He's been checked out of this marriage for awhile now and was just going threw the motions. I don't think Kate really had a clue that things were going south until it was to late and Jon already had his mind made up.

I totally agree!! I have watched clips of them even back before they were ever married... and i read her book as well. They did love each other... all this has went to Jons head. I do wish their pastor or someone would have counseled them extensively before it got this far. But, if he didn't want it, it wouldn't have mattered.

 

[AlleyKat]

I'm looking for information on "The Hamptons" and just came across this article about Jon.

Ouch!

http://www.okmagazine.com/2009/07/jon-gosselin-laughed-out-of-hamptons-party/#more-401171

 

[GeorgiaPeach8]

I agree...the show played a huge part in the break up. Although, I think it was ALMOST as likely that they would have broken up anyway with the stress of 8 kids and money being tight.

However, I think that they both made the decision to continue with the show and so they both knew that they needed to be more careful and guard against the kind of stress that goes along with instant fame and money. I think in light of their very unique situation, I would have had the twins is meet with a family counselor for a while after the babies were born and then I would have them all going now. Not sure they would't have been going the whole time they were doing the show.

 

[redrosesix]

I agree...the show played a huge part in the break up. Although, I think it was ALMOST as likely that they would have broken up anyway with the stress of 8 kids and money being tight.

However, I think that they both made the decision to continue with the show and so they both knew that they needed to be more careful and guard against the kind of stress that goes along with instant fame and money. I think in light of their very unique situation, I would have had the twins is meet with a family counselor for a while after the babies were born and then I would have them all going now. Not sure they would't have been going the whole time they were doing the show.

We don't really know whether they ever did counselling -- I'd think that since they kept their separation a secret for a rumoured 2 years, counselling sessions could also have been kept secret.

Now, I'm not saying Jon is a saint, but it was made pretty clear by both him and Kate that he wanted out of the show and she wanted to keep doing it. That kind of disagreement has to take it's toll on a marriage, and IMO, is much bigger hurdle than somebody getting their ears pierced. For Pete's sake, does Jon have to be so hen-pecked that he's not allowed to get his ears pierced if he wants to?

BTW, it was Kate who said that she wouldn't marry Jon if she had it to do over again, not the other way around. I just think it's too much to expect a person to pretend they're somebody they're not for the sake of a TV show that they don't want to do. If Jon wants to be the snowboarding, earring-wearing person that he was before the show, I have no problem with that.

 

[redrosesix]

Somebody's going to have to fill me in on Monday's show -- we don't have a TV here. I'm sure I'll be able to read a play-by-play on this thread. :rotfl2

TLC is obviously doing some PR work leading up to the new show:
http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/capress/090730/entertainment/us_tv_jon_amp_kate

 

[mistydoodles]

Meow!
Well, he wanted out of the show long before Deanna-gate, and he was also complaining about the attention long before that too. In fact, I felt like his biggest complaint was re his family, who all had to get unlisted telephone numbers because they were inundated with calls from fans and tabloid reporters - god help anybody whose last name is Gosselin. It seemed like a reasonable complaint to me.

Meow?? Why was that necessary.

 

[redrosesix]

Meow?? Why was that necessary.

well nobody can be all bad -- not even Jon Gosselin. And it was just some photos of him talking to fans at his fence -- was he supposed to be making angry faces at them?

I just find it odd that nobody would write such a critical post if Kate was photographed talking to fans. Is it somehow ok to take things completely out of context when it's Jon in the photograph.

 

[3prettyprincesses]

We don't really know whether they ever did counselling -- I'd think that since they kept their separation a secret for a rumoured 2 years, counselling sessions could also have been kept secret.

Now, I'm not saying Jon is a saint, but it was made pretty clear by both him and Kate that he wanted out of the show and she wanted to keep doing it. That kind of disagreement has to take it's toll on a marriage, and IMO, is much bigger hurdle than somebody getting their ears pierced. For Pete's sake, does Jon have to be so hen-pecked that he's not allowed to get his ears pierced if he wants to?

BTW, it was Kate who said that she wouldn't marry Jon if she had it to do over again, not the other way around. I just think it's too much to expect a person to pretend they're somebody they're not for the sake of a TV show that they don't want to do. If Jon wants to be the snowboarding, earring-wearing person that he was before the show, I have no problem with that.

How do you know they were seperated for 2 years? Wasn't that just a rumor?

Jon appeared to LOVE the attention on past seasons and it seems to me that he was only annoyed because he was getting caught at bars with college chicks. Remember, he couldn't be 'just Jon' or go anywhere without people knowing? I hardly think he really wanted out of the show especially since he's been in the limelight all on his own these last few weeks. I don't believe Kate said he wanted out of the show. She said he wasn't happy staying home so she encouraged him to get a part-time job or go back to school. Then she said they bought the house to make him happy too but that didnt work either. IMO he wants to have the $ from the show and not have to work for it. And he's still doing the show isn't he? Even though Kate isn't with him.

As far as Jon getting his ears pierced, it seems like more of a syndrome if you ask me! Textbook mid-life crisis. Let's do the checklist again shall we? Earrings? Check! Adolescent clothing? Check! Sports car? Check! Hair plugs? Check! GF's that are too young? Check! Doesn't like his job? Check! Bachelor pad? Check! I know I'm forgetting something!

 

[WaltD4Me]

Access Hollywood had a clip of Jon tonight. He seemed really mad at Kevin and Jodie. He said they need to mind their own business. He said the kids are fine and how would they know what is going on they don't even know where we live. (Ummmm, practically everybody knows were you live Jon) He said he was sick of people talking about things they don't know anything about.

 

[redrosesix]

How do you know they were seperated for 2 years? Wasn't that just a rumor?

Jon appeared to LOVE the attention on past seasons and it seems to me that he was only annoyed because he was getting caught at bars with college chicks. Remember, he couldn't be 'just Jon' or go anywhere without people knowing? I hardly think he really wanted out of the show especially since he's been in the limelight all on his own these last few weeks. I don't believe Kate said he wanted out of the show. She said he wasn't happy staying home so she encouraged him to get a part-time job or go back to school. Then she said they bought the house to make him happy too but that didnt work either. IMO he wants to have the $ from the show and not have to work for it. And he's still doing the show isn't he? Even though Kate isn't with him.

As far as Jon getting his ears pierced, it seems like more of a syndrome if you ask me! Textbook mid-life crisis. Let's do the checklist again shall we? Earrings? Check! Adolescent clothing? Check! Sports car? Check! Hair plugs? Check! GF's that are too young? Check! Doesn't like his job? Check! Bachelor pad? Check! I know I'm forgetting something!

Kate also said that Jon wanted out of the show, but since she didn't think anything would make him happy and she wanted to continue that that was out of the question. As for him still doing it, they have a contract for a set number of shows -- he has to continue the filming until that contract is up. And I hardly think being followed by paparazzi is the same as being in the limelight -- not like he's holding press conferences. BTW, I've heard the "just Jon" phrase in reference to his family as well. Like I said, I don't think that his family needs to put up with phone calls from paparazzi and fans -- there's something really wrong about that.

And the hair plugs were Kate's idea.

Personally, I don't think it's a mid-life crisis. When you look at pictures of Jon from before the show, he's a totally different person, more like the way he's acting and dressing now ie. what you call adolescent clothing. Obviously, that wasn't the image that TLC wanted to portray. I think that a person can only pretend they're somebody they're not for so long. It would be like me telling my DH not to look or act like a musician for 8 years -- I don't think he could pull it off without having issues -- mostly with me for expecting it of him.

As for the separation, I did note that it was rumoured to be 2 years. But there are several stories about this now -- clearly they've been living separately but in the same house for a long time.