Jon and Kate Plus 8, Official Thread-Part 4

[madge]

I'm still here, so I'll comment on this:

First of all, thank you for what you said, and it is so true. I know that not everyone is going to agree with me and I readily accept that. I don't like Kate, and I know there are those of us on here that do, or are middle of the road, as I have tried to be. I guess its just hard when I say something about Kate, and then have a poster turn around and turn into a comment against themselves. And this isn't just me I'm talking about, I've seen it with other posters as well and I just get weary when I read posts like that. None of us on here should have to defend the way we feel. As you said, this AMERICA, and it is our right to say how what's on our minds. I just feel like on here, we should not really have to explain ourselves to anyone or defend our opinions. A little bit is fine, but it tends to go the extreme from time to time.

I hope that makes sense...

it does make sense.

I'm not a Kate fan, I'm not a hater, either .. as TotalSnowWhite puts it, I'm a deb8ter more than anything else. I like to play devil's advocate, especially when I have the facts to back it up. I don't share my opinion that often anymore, mainly because I find it exhausting to argue with people. I'm not changing my mind, and I certainly don't expect someone with an opposite opinion to change theirs.

I love this thread. I love the questions asked .. it makes me think about my own opinions and how I see things. Not everyone sees things the same way, thank goodness .. how boring would that be?

And I hate to see anyone leave.

 

[Epcot luvr]

Well, everyone here is certainly allowed their opinions and no one here has to agree with everything they read. I don't necessarily agree with those here who are so "pro-Kate", but I don't comment or need to know WHY they like her so much. That's their right.

I happen to not like Kate, but get criticized for my opinions (people asking me why I feel this way or why I feel that way and taking comments that I say out of context and applying them to themselves (i.e. - taking it as a personal assault, for which it was not intended.)

I used to think this board was a friendly debate board, but too many of you on here take the comments too personally and frankly, it annoys me. And because of that, I think I will just lurk here and not post any more opinions, on this thread anyways.

I LOVE DIS! And I love the posters here, but I guess I feel that too many of us take this Jon and Kate subject to heart and turn the comments made into personal insults. I don't want to feel like I am making personal attacks anymore and I get tired of explaining myself.

Don't be too mad at me! I don't mean to be rude or anything, I just feel like maybe it's time for me to move on...

Love you all!

You are preaching to the choir, can I have a ^men, it feels like that for me too. I really have enjoyed your post! Surely we will run into eachother on another thread. I and my cat with her KateKrazy hairdo (she did w/o my consent )are walking away from the train wreck

 

[Buckalew11]

http://perezhilton.com/2009-06-05-jon-gosselin-caught-on-tape

Jon Gosselin Caught On Tape!

The pair were seen having a secret "date" at bar in Nyack, NY. An eyewitness noticed that the young woman was "hanging on every word he said, and looked really happy to be with him."

Posted: June 5, 2009 at 12:30 pm

Well who knows? He may be seeing her. She may just be a friend. After Kate's surgery she stayed with this family so they have (sorta) close ties. Could this girl be in love with him? Sure. Could she just be a friend? Sure. He may have left when he saw the photographer because he was trying to protect her instead of himself. Again, who knows?

My sister dated a guy for several years who I was very close to. He was 5 yrs. older than me. So is my DH. If I went out and met this guy right now for dinner, I too, would be hanging on his every word and would look really happy to be with him. He is someone I treasure, have for years and think the world of. But I am in no way, shape or form in love with him. I think this article is assuming too much.

That being said, I would not be surprised at Jon being caught with other women. I do not think Deanna Hummell will be the last girl in Jon's life. JMHO. Time will tell...

 

[chocovrdmicears]

I won't try and comment on the way Jon and/or Kate "behave" because I have never walked in their shoes. However, I do have something in common with them...I am a parent. And you will never convince me that what they are putting those 8 children through right now is something that is *for the kids*. If they want to act they way they do in the public eye, then that is their business. However when they subject their children to the public circus of their marital problems...then that is when I lose repect for BOTH of them.

 

[MICKEY4EVER!]

it does make sense.

I'm not a Kate fan, I'm not a hater, either .. as TotalSnowWhite puts it, I'm a deb8ter more than anything else. I like to play devil's advocate, especially when I have the facts to back it up. I don't share my opinion that often anymore, mainly because I find it exhausting to argue with people. I'm not changing my mind, and I certainly don't expect someone with an opposite opinion to change theirs.

I love this thread. I love the questions asked .. it makes me think about my own opinions and how I see things. Not everyone sees things the same way, thank goodness .. how boring would that be?

And I hate to see anyone leave.

You are preaching to the choir, can I have a ^men, it feels like that for me too. I really have enjoyed your post! Surely we will run into eachother on another thread. I and my cat with her KateKrazy hairdo (she did w/o my consent )are walking away from the train wreck

Thank you ! I'm glad you understand! I have enjoyed myself very much on here and hate to leave also, but when its starts becoming more stressful than it is enjoyable, then you know its time to depart.

And madge and Epcotluvr: I have thoroughly enjoyed your posts as well! Don't worry, I'll still be lurking to see if you guys have posted any links. I enjoy those so much!

 

[lucas]

Thank you ! I'm glad you understand! I have enjoyed myself very much on here and hate to leave also, but when its starts becoming more stressful than it is enjoyable, then you know its time to depart.

And madge and Epcotluvr: I have thoroughly enjoyed your posts as well! Don't worry, I'll still be lurking to see if you guys have posted any links. I enjoy those so much!

Awwwww! Stick around. I usually get scared when I stick my toe in, but all in all we have some laughs here.

 

[madge]

http://publicrecords.onlinesearches.com/Maryland.htm

type in (first name) Steve (last name) Neild and choose Maryland as the state... click search. interesting.

Steve Neild is the bodyguard.

 

[LoraJ]

Well I am not trying to be insulting in any of my posts. Jut trying to show another side of the story since so many posts are assumptions based on a couple of photos. You can't make a fact out of an assumption. That's all myself and some others are pointing out.

I was not calling any posters here idiots. Just the paparazzi who follow them around and jump in front of them when they try and go places.

And I am definitely not a Kate lover, but I will defend some things if I find the accusations over the top.

Mickey4ever, you quoted my post, I just want to know what I did that was so insulting that would make you want to leave the thread?

ETA:
Adding in nice smileys to show my tone.

 

[Kycha]

speaking of animals .. there was something in the episode where they got the dogs. they gave back in that one, too. I didn't see that one, so I'm not sure what they did .. but they gave back in that show, too.

and I don't know about unbiased comments, I try to stick to facts, but I'm not a fan .. never really have been. but thanks for the kind words. I appreciate it

What they "give back" on camera means nothing to me, it's for show. What they give back when the cameras are off is what matters.

Quite honestly, there is no way to know.

 

[LoraJ]

http://publicrecords.onlinesearches.com/Maryland.htm

type in (first name) Steve (last name) Neild and choose Maryland as the state... click search. interesting.

Steve Neild is the bodyguard.

I am not getting anything.

 

[phamton]

I happen to not like Kate, but get criticized for my opinions (people asking me why I feel this way or why I feel that way and taking comments that I say out of context and applying them to themselves (i.e. - taking it as a personal assault, for which it was not intended.)

I used to think this board was a friendly debate board, but too many of you on here take the comments too personally and frankly, it annoys me. And because of that, I think I will just lurk here and not post any more opinions, on this thread anyways.

I completely get what you are saying and left the thread myself a few weeks ago for the same reason. I felt ganged up on and I felt that every word I said was being scrutinized.

This is not a true example but didn't want to list the true examples so no one would say i was pointing a finger at them. So here is what i hope will be a funny example:

Me: "OMG, Kate has dyed her hair pink. It looks terrible!"

Another poster: "Why do you care what color she dyed her hair?"

Next poster: "My daughter has pink hair and I think it looks adorable. My daughter is valedictorian of her high school and prom queen."

And another poster: "Can't Kate do anything right in you people's eyes? How do you know that she didn't dye it pink as a special gift for her kid's birthday? Hannah mentioned that she loves pink hair. Sometimes we do outrageous things to make our kids happy."

Then someone else says: "Well of course she had to dye her hair to avoid the P people. It's only a disguise. Give the lady some privacy."

Another poster: "Well, her hair is naturally purple. She hasn't had time to get a real dye job. Maybe it's just faded in the sunlight. I think some of you are jealous because you don't have naturally purple hair like Kate."

And another poster says: "No one cared when Jon covered his gray hair black so why pick on Kate? Jon's been dying his hair much longer than Kate."

And finally: "It's only hair. Jeez, some people were find the most insignificant thing to pick on. I wish I looked as good as she does with pink hair."

 

[LoraJ]

Phantom you nailed it. LOLOLOL!!!!!!

 

[newtodis]

Well, everyone here is certainly allowed their opinions and no one here has to agree with everything they read. I don't necessarily agree with those here who are so "pro-Kate", but I don't comment or need to know WHY they like her so much. That's their right.

I happen to not like Kate, but get criticized for my opinions (people asking me why I feel this way or why I feel that way and taking comments that I say out of context and applying them to themselves (i.e. - taking it as a personal assault, for which it was not intended.)

I used to think this board was a friendly debate board, but too many of you on here take the comments too personally and frankly, it annoys me. And because of that, I think I will just lurk here and not post any more opinions, on this thread anyways.

I LOVE DIS! And I love the posters here, but I guess I feel that too many of us take this Jon and Kate subject to heart and turn the comments made into personal insults. I don't want to feel like I am making personal attacks anymore and I get tired of explaining myself.

Don't be too mad at me! I don't mean to be rude or anything, I just feel like maybe it's time for me to move on...

Love you all!

So sorry to see you go! It seems like just in the couple of threads I've been on, this happens every now and again then things lull out a little bit. I think there are lots new posters here on the thread because of the pictures from February and the drama until now. I certainly hope I've never said/done anything to make anyone uncomfortable - it was never my intention at all! It's so hard to take things on the internet and it's hard to always make myself clear and I'm sure others have that problem. I remember on the last thread (maybe around the time I joined in the debate) everyone had to be very specific about the "you" (other person) and "you" (general you)....

it does make sense.

I'm not a Kate fan, I'm not a hater, either .. as TotalSnowWhite puts it, I'm a deb8ter more than anything else. I like to play devil's advocate, especially when I have the facts to back it up. I don't share my opinion that often anymore, mainly because I find it exhausting to argue with people. I'm not changing my mind, and I certainly don't expect someone with an opposite opinion to change theirs.

I love this thread. I love the questions asked .. it makes me think about my own opinions and how I see things. Not everyone sees things the same way, thank goodness .. how boring would that be?

And I hate to see anyone leave.

Very well put!

Well who knows? He may be seeing her. She may just be a friend. After Kate's surgery she stayed with this family so they have (sorta) close ties. Could this girl be in love with him? Sure. Could she just be a friend? Sure. He may have left when he saw the photographer because he was trying to protect her instead of himself. Again, who knows?

That being said, I would not be surprised at Jon being caught with other women. I do not think Deanna Hummell will be the last girl in Jon's life. JMHO. Time will tell...

I agree! She may be in "love" with the celebrity Jon - not so much in love with Jon himself - it's always fun to feel "special" (getting special treatment) and getting gifts and going fun places. I could see how someone could get caught up in that.

No I also don't think we're done with the females in Jon's life....

Phantom you nailed it. LOLOLOL!!!!!!

 

[mousey]

Good Job Phantom! That's exactly how I feel on this thread sometimes. I made a comment about seeing Kate and her bodyguard at the airport on TV and the reporter referred to Kate as looking like a hooker. After I posted this someone right away posted that she is 38 and wears mini skirts and why can't Kate wear a mini skirt--Who cares! There are so many stories out there and I enjoy hearing them on here. Its not so much if you agree or disagree, but how you say it!!

 

[newtodis]

http://publicrecords.onlinesearches.com/Maryland.htm

type in (first name) Steve (last name) Neild and choose Maryland as the state... click search. interesting.

Steve Neild is the bodyguard.

I didn't get anything either - without spending money of course...will you please fill us in???

 

[MichelleVW]

Well I am not trying to be insulting in any of my posts. Jut trying to show another side of the story since so many posts are assumptions based on a couple of photos. You can't make a fact out of an assumption. That's all myself and some others are pointing out.

I was not calling any posters here idiots. Just the paparazzi who follow them around and jump in front of them when they try and go places.

And I am definitely not a Kate lover, but I will defend some things if I find the accusations over the top.

Mickey4ever, you quoted my post, I just want to know what I did that was so insulting that would make you want to leave the thread?

ETA:
Adding in nice smileys to show my tone.

You know..that's why I seem to defend Kate so much...because some people are so freaking nit picky that they criticize everything the woman does.

I completely get what you are saying and left the thread myself a few weeks ago for the same reason. I felt ganged up on and I felt that every word I said was being scrutinized.

This is not a true example but didn't want to list the true examples so no one would say i was pointing a finger at them. So here is what i hope will be a funny example:

Me: "OMG, Kate has dyed her hair pink. It looks terrible!"

Another poster: "Why do you care what color she dyed her hair?"

Next poster: "My daughter has pink hair and I think it looks adorable. My daughter is valedictorian of her high school and prom queen."

And another poster: "Can't Kate do anything right in you people's eyes? How do you know that she didn't dye it pink as a special gift for her kid's birthday? Hannah mentioned that she loves pink hair. Sometimes we do outrageous things to make our kids happy."

Then someone else says: "Well of course she had to dye her hair to avoid the P people. It's only a disguise. Give the lady some privacy."

Another poster: "Well, her hair is naturally purple. She hasn't had time to get a real dye job. Maybe it's just faded in the sunlight. I think some of you are jealous because you don't have naturally purple hair like Kate."

And another poster says: "No one cared when Jon covered his gray hair black so why pick on Kate? Jon's been dying his hair much longer than Kate."

And finally: "It's only hair. Jeez, some people were find the most insignificant thing to pick on. I wish I looked as good as she does with pink hair."

You just described a conversation and isn't that what a message board is?

 

[nuke]

I didn't get anything either - without spending money of course...will you please fill us in???

Could it be the duel addresses that come up? That is kind of interesting.

 

[newtodis]

Ok OT but I need to share.....spent $209.87 at Kroger, Publix and CVS today and saved $248.79!!! It's also my first shopping trip in three weeks!! I love my bargins and coupons!!

Ok back on topic...I love the cute Hawaiian-ish shirts the boys have been wearing on vacation! Too cute!!

If you could ask Kate any question and she had to answer, what would you ask???

 

[MichelleVW]

Ok OT but I need to share.....spent $209.87 at Kroger, Publix and CVS today and saved $248.79!!! It's also my first shopping trip in three weeks!! I love my bargins and coupons!!

Ok back on topic...I love the cute Hawaiian-ish shirts the boys have been wearing on vacation! Too cute!!

If you could ask Kate any question and she had to answer, what would you ask???

omg that is awesome!!!

 

[madge]

I am not getting anything.

it took me a couple of tries -- but when you enter Steve Neild on the website I linked to, it shows that he has 2 addresses. One in Maryland, and the other is in Wernersville, Pennsylvania.

as for what that means? I have NO idea... it may mean absolutely nothing, but I find it curious. why would he need a Pennsylvania address? (she says, in a genuinely questioning, not snarky, way)