Jon and Kate Plus 8, Official Thread-Part 3

[jpaxton1118]

I think that some people are missing the end of last season when he said he did not want to do it anymore and she said she did. He told her and the world he was done with this. Yes he is on it again and I have no doubt that is because of Kate.

I am not sure he cheated, he said he didn't and all the Kate supports keep saying they are not going to believe she cheated until she says it so why does that not apply to Jon?

He did enjoy all that was given to him and he realized the cost it is taking on his family. He wanted to be done last season. Why do people not get that. There is no excuse for cheating, he should have stood up for himself but I believe that he acted out, like the child he is, because of her and her selfishness.

 

[1stluvispooh]

Are you sure??

Yes I am! It only feels that way.

 

[Mermaid02]

Yes I am! It only feels that way.

LOL! I hate those things... they cost a mint to fill and the stuff is crap. Thank God my kids are past that stage!

 

[madge]

hmmm ... which is it?

Jon decided to take the weekend off?

OR

Jon was unexpectedly away and they got their wires crossed ...
Kate's Blog on TLC

Jon was unexpectedly away. We mistakenly got our wires crossed and I ended up having no help from our babysitter, so I decided I'd brave this adventure by myself!!!

 

[DMRick]

I personally find it revolting that Kevin and Jodi have thrown in their 2 cents.... talk about attention seeking.....

I wondered if they were who Jon meant when he said last night that someone talked about them for $20,000.

 

[jpaxton1118]

I'm sure Kate sees her kids more then you think........at least her kids aren't shipped to a daycare for 8-10 hours a day. Not that there is anything wrong with that, because lets face it sometimes there is no other way and you have to support your family. I just think that Kate is getting bashed for no reason here. Yes, she is controlling and a bit harsh, but it seems that has been their dynamic from the beginning. This show was something that they both started and has been able to give them a life of comfort. Most parents would LOVE to quit their jobs and stay home with the kids and Jon seems to resent it! I'm sure he loves his kids, but he doesn't seem to want to be there 24/7. I went into this episode totally thinking that I would feel sorry for Jon and was surprised that I feel sorry for Kate. I saw a side of her that she never shows, it really is sad.

I think it has to do with a man being a man and needing a job. They have it built in them to go out and be the hunters not stay home and be the housewife. Whether we think that is right or wrong, it is how most men are built. My husband loves our kids dearly but he would not want to stay home with them every day while I was out touring the country.

 

[SharpMomOfTwo]

I'm sure Kate sees her kids more then you think........at least her kids aren't shipped to a daycare for 8-10 hours a day. Not that there is anything wrong with that, because lets face it sometimes there is no other way and you have to support your family. I just think that Kate is getting bashed for no reason here. Yes, she is controlling and a bit harsh, but it seems that has been their dynamic from the beginning. This show was something that they both started and has been able to give them a life of comfort. Most parents would LOVE to quit their jobs and stay home with the kids and Jon seems to resent it! I'm sure he loves his kids, but he doesn't seem to want to be there 24/7. I went into this episode totally thinking that I would feel sorry for Jon and was surprised that I feel sorry for Kate. I saw a side of her that she never shows, it really is sad.

I don't think it has anything to do with the kids - I think he resents Kate for various reasons other than the fact that shes on a book tour.

 

[DMRick]

I don't know if Jon had the affair, but in all truthfullness - can you blame him??

Yes, if he had an affair I would blame him. If he wasn't happy at home, then he should have either tried to fix it, or leave. He did make poor choices, one of them was being out in bars and leaving with a young girl. Another was bringing her to his home.

I have no idea who said what last night, only whet TLC let me see.

 

[Embel]

The whole episode made me feel sad. These are real people, and you could feel their very real emotions. Both of them. It just really hit me that no one can have it all.

For Jon- he probably can't work in his original career path and support a family of 10. Until the show took off, he would have been exhausted at work, probably unable to stay late or come in early too often, and can you imagine the number of sick days? But now that he's home he's edgy & bored & probably becoming rusty in some of the technology.

He wants Kate to stop working so hard, but bought a new car without planning for it ahead of time.

He wants to be a Dad, but misses travelling and snowboarding. Don't think an IT Analyst with 8 kids gets to do that stuff too often.

Kate wants so badly to be a great Mom, but she can't easily do that from 3 states away. She wants to keep her career-& lifestyle- but they're both built upon the idea that she's a great Mom. How do you balance that?

They're both floundering and caught up in so many catch-22s. I just really feel sad for them all.

 

[newtodis]

Aunt Jodi's sister's blog has also been recently updated:

http://truthbreedshatred.blogspot.com/

 

[SharpMomOfTwo]

I personally find it revolting that Kevin and Jodi have thrown in their 2 cents.... talk about attention seeking.... sit, back, shut up and be there for your nieces and nephews-throwing Mom or Dad under the bus isn't good for those children.

When / Where / What did they say? Was it on the show, or do they have a blog or somthing??

I did notice that the red-headed sister was NOT at the party - is that who Jodi is..... I'm so out of touch with this show!

 

[DreaGirl]

I thought he was talking about DeAnna's brother when he said 20K.

 

[jpaxton1118]

Give me a break Jodi's sister! The kids are not servants. In all honesty, I think the kids like having the crew around, that is why they are always running up to the camera's smiling. This is not the way I would raise my family, but the kids don't seem bothered by the camera's. If the parents were getting along, this would not be an issue.

 

[3prettyprincesses]

hmmm ... which is it?

Jon decided to take the weekend off?

OR

Jon was unexpectedly away and they got their wires crossed ...
Kate's Blog on TLC

I had forgotten she wrote that on her blog. I think they both didn't want to be in that house together so agreed for Jon to have a weekend away.

Some people mentioned Jon's self-esteem last night when asked if the roles were reversed and it was him out doing the books, tours. His response that he can't write, some people say he can't talk well or even breath right was sad. I wonder if he just can't handle Kate telling him what to do all the time and how to do it right. As a child, my Dad always told my sister and I that we were stupid or morons and honestly to this day, I have the worst self-esteem. It makes my DH crazy because I second guess my abilities and he (my DH) being the awesome man he is, constantly tells me that I am capable. So, I'm sure it's been a bad pattern for 10 years and he has to deal with feeling inadequate. It's just too ridiculous, this whole thing. Was being on TV and making all the $ worth the sacrifice of your marriage?

 

[Tinker74]

I have watched all but the last 10 mins of last nights new epi..It was very sad...My heart went out to both Jon and Kate....I could tell Kate was trying to put on a brave face but was probabley devestated inside.

I have a question....how\long ago was the vow renewal?....Kate says this has been going on for 6 months or so..and Yes I think we could all tell there was a problem pretty much from the time they moved into the new house. That to me was when i noticed a difference..They didn't seem to film much together..Jon was "away" helping his mum at one point...So when do you think the problems started?...They did seem happy in Hawaii..They promised to stay together forever, so something pretty bad must have happened.

It it so sad....I wish them all all the best!

 

[3prettyprincesses]

When / Where / What did they say? Was it on the show, or do they have a blog or somthing??

Kevin (Kate's brother) and Jodi (Kate's sister in law) did a video interview and radaronline posted it in segments.

http://www.radaronline.com/exclusiv...-interview-jon-kates-secret-marriage-contract

There are I believe 3 segments so look to the right for related posts to see the others.

 

[mcrockett1220]

I just wanted to clarify for the poster who responded to the post about this episode just being taped within the last 2 weeks and the response was claiming that was incorrect and was taped in March....This episode WAS just taped within the last 2 weeks!!!!
You can do a search on tmz.com or perezhilton.com or x17online.com and find the paparazzi pics taken on the day Kate took the kids to Target and to Party City, and pics of the party itself, taken from those photographers from afar at the party. It was very recent, not in March.

 

[Eeyore'sthebest]

Okay, admittedly I didn't watch the entire episode. I have it on DVR and may get back to it but I really got disgusted part way through and turned it off.

Here's my 2 cents (and only mine). Jon has checked out mentally. When he said "I've worked my whole life..." Sorry but I couldn't even hear the end of the sentence. Worked his whole life. What the heck does that mean??? How friggin' old is he? He hasn't worked the last few years. TLC, and sponsors, have paid for his entire existence!! I am the working parent in our home. DH is disabled. I'm not looking for a pat on the back but for goodness sake stop the damn whining. I hate grownups that whine.

And yes, it stinks when your child calls you another name because you are traveling on business. Yes, it stinks when you miss a milestone because the mortgage needs to be paid. Does Kate want the best for her children? You bet she does. But it takes a job to do it and she seems to have stepped up to the plate. I don't see him doing anything but whining. And then I turned it off. I believe I will keep it off. The parts I saw were too darn sad.

Okay, off my soapbox and back to work.

 

[DreaGirl]

And yes, it stinks when your child calls you another name because you are traveling on business. Yes, it stinks when you miss a milestone because the mortgage needs to be paid. Does Kate want the best for her children? You bet she does. But it takes a job to do it and she seems to have stepped up to the plate. I don't see him doing anything but whining. And then I turned it off. I believe I will keep it off. The parts I saw were too darn sad.

Okay, off my soapbox and back to work.

Yes, but she already has a job, the show. So, these others things are like working 2nd or 3rd jobs.

 

[KiKi Mouse]

I don't feel sorry for them that is for sure. I do feel sorry for the kids for being under the media lens. I also feel sorry for them if their parents are split or splitting. As much as I can't stand the parents it is sad for those kids.
As for anybody having an affrair...you just don't do that. You don't take up with other people while you are married. If you are that unhappy then end it and move on. Don't make it more of a mess or more hurtful especially when kids are involved. As nasty as Kate is she does not deserve to be cheated on and the same goes for Jon. They both have their faults and there is no excuse.
I was wondering why on earth they would continue with the show but a) there may be a contract with TLC they can't get out of b) hey...it's good money and the extra media attention has driven ratings up. DH and I watched it and we would have never in the past. I feel somewhat guilty for buying into it and watching the train wreck.
I found the episode heavy and sad.

I did notice that Kate seemed happy and playful with one of her male assistants when they were decorating. Who was that?