Jon and Kate Plus 8, Official Thread-Part 3

[MICKEY4EVER!]

I have not really watched the show for a while due to our schedule, ect but I have read some things going on lately and I just hate it so much for the kids. First of all mom is gone all the time on book tours when she was the main focus in their lives for the first years. Not sure what is the deal is with dad but sounds fishy.

I know the money from the show is good and tempting but if I saw my kids going through hell just so I could put a few dollars in the bank I would pull the plug. Yes the money could go toward college, clothing and feeding them, ect but there are other ways to do it without living in a million dollar house and cameras on them constantly. I would rather live in a crowded house and eat ramen noodles everyday before I would let my marriage and kids pay the price for my wants.

I could give a crap about Jon & Kate - they'll do want they want and pay the price but those kids have no say so in any of this - they are the ones I worry about.

Well said.

 

[newtodis]

Other than that being her normal speaking pattern - the flat tone, the uhs, etc. -- the only other thing I thought was that she was so distant. I didn't expect her to be bubbly or charismatic. not at all. It seemed to me that she's in some sort of denial. I'm sure she is, how could she not be? But I'm not a trained therapist, so I don't know for sure.

Kate should be careful when addressing the tabloids .. because yesterday, Kate and Jon were using those very magazines (People and Us Weekly) to get their own story out. Can't really have it both ways.

I can't believe she speaks that way on a public platform. Maybe it's because she's nervious? I'd think you'd get over that being in front of people at speaking engagements and such. I'd also think she would be more comfortable with the cameras there since that's what she's used to. She had to have an idea of the questions or topics that would be discussed and could have had something in mind as a response before the interview.

I agree she needs to be careful stereotyping - we all do it sometimes. I think, in general she was trying to make a point and maybe she doesn't define "tabloids" the way we do (like she's thinking more like National Enquirer not People). That could be part of the misunderstanding as well.

A number of people have posted this about the sunbathing 'incident'. I think that people are missing that this picture was taken at the Gosselin's home. The kids could be inside the house with or without other adults. Heck, they could have been just out of frame for all we know.So basically it's just another day at the Gosselin house.As a married man, I must never be in the presence of females sunbathing? It's not like they were canoodling on a private beach somewhere. They were on his front lawn where she was sunbathing and at least one other male adult was present.

Yes the picture was taken at their house. Yes it could have been during nap time or while the kids were at church with someone else or at a friend's house or whatever. But, that's a big house and Kate's always saying how much laundry there is to do. I'd think he'd have other things to do to fill his day than lay out in the yard. JMHO The kids could also have been in the yard but how are they being presented this situation?? The twins have to be old enough to think something's not quite right if Daddy's out three nights a week with "Dede". How come Daddy's not staying home with us? How come Mommy's not home? We just don't know what they're being told or how it's being presented. The little ones aren't probably figuring out this isn't how things are in many families. The twins have to have a good idea that this is NOT how things are for many families. I'd think J&K have explained that "because of the show we're able to go to Disney" or whatever so they understand that this is "work" for their family.

Neither can the followers of the story. People want them to speak out about it. Well, how else are they going to get their comments heard? As popular as it is in internetland, I doubt any big media coverage (aside from tabloid tv shows) would be given to a Gosselin press conference. Gotta get it out there somehow.

Yes I think it's important for them to put out a statement but I'm sure TLC has some pull to help them get the word out if they really wanted to. For Pete sakes, they could take ads out in the newspapers, billboards, whatever. I do think they need to be careful what organizations they're making statements with after that comment though from Kate. Like I said above, it could be just not calling all of those magazines tabloids too.

What really gets me more than the actual scandal (because, honestly, with celebs it's old hat) is the venom from the Kate haters. I scanned a couple of comments from articles, etc. I understand people being mad at Jon (woman scorned and all that), but others seem to be reveling in the fact that he may have cheated. Others have said things along the lines that Jon should have slapped Kate, etc., etc., etc. Please tell me, aside from self-defense during an attack, when it's ok to condone hitting a husband hitting his wife?

I haven't read anything but here and the stories from the links posted (no comments on any of them) but if anyone's suggesting that, that's just wrong on so many levels! It is never ok to hit another at all (aside from self defense).

Someone also mentioned they should quit the show (not marching on or something). Hypothetically, if Jon cheated and they split, please tell me how a single parent is going to support eight kids doing a normal 8-5. Money is a driving force in this world. You can't live without it, and they've found a way to get it in droves for very little labor (I won't say "work" because I do think it's work to have kids).

I agree they would need something big to keep themselves afloat just between the basics (food, house, utilities, vehicle, insurance) let alone anything above and beyond like tuition to a private school, trips, anything like that.

I know it's also been mentioned that Jon couldn't afford to leave....did they do any paperwork with the show, maybe something like a prenup?? I would think TLC was smart enough to put part of most of the funds into some kind of account for the kids that can't be touched until they're x years old or something like that. They may have also had J&K sign something if they're each getting their own paycheck. I honestly don't know how they're being paid or anything about the paperwork that was done, just purely something I was thinking about. There are a LOT of unknowns with the entire situation.

Probably. And, honestly, TLC probably doesn't really care what you think. JK8 is huge for them right now. If they didn't pay attention to all of the other naysayers (that guy who was a child star sticks out, since he has some celebrity to back him up), I doubt they're going to pull the plug due to some random emails.

I agree - as much as I'm normally pro sharing your experiences good or bad, I'm thinking TLC just junks the "bad" ones. I'm sure the "Kate's my idol and inspiration for living" emails far outweigh the "I'm no longer a viewer" emails - just a guess on my part.

 

[TotalSnowWhite]

I'm not sure about TLC not caring. I read yesterday (on one of the blogs, for whatever that's worth .. most of the time, there's some truth in what they're saying) that there was a stern reprimand from TLC after the February incident.


I don't mean TLC doesn't care about what JK8 do, but there are enough people that are watching (fans and non-fans) that it's not going to be a huge deal to get a disapproving email. That just shows TLC that JK8 is still on the radar, even if emailer X isn't watching the show.

The Today Show, Rachael Ray, and Larry King Live are all mainstream media. I don't consider any of those tabloid TV. Kate could go on Oprah, The View, or Bonnie Hunt .. any number of shows that I'd consider non-tabloid.

I was thinking along the lines of ET, TMZ, etc. I think the Today Show was a good move, however, I'm thinking getting the word out to the masses. Not everyone gets to stay home and watch these daytime shows. However, everyone goes to Target, the grocery store, etc. and will see the rags at the checkout stand.

 

[madge]

Someone also mentioned they should quit the show (not marching on or something). Hypothetically, if Jon cheated and they split, please tell me how a single parent is going to support eight kids doing a normal 8-5. Money is a driving force in this world. You can't live without it, and they've found a way to get it in droves for very little labor (I won't say "work" because I do think it's work to have kids).

I'm not sure how credible Jon & Kate are going to be without addressing this on the show. I'm not sure that they can continue to claim this is "reality" when dancing around the elephant in the room.

I also don't think that we've heard the last of the allegations -- from either Jon or Kate.

8 Little Faces has dropped in the NYT book selling ratings. It's not in any of the top 10 lists.

I think Kate is desperately trying to get herself established as a speaker or spokesperson so she can continue on without Jon.

How many episodes have there been of JK8? at 50,000 a pop? Plus book & DVD sales, speaking engagements .. there should be a nice nest egg by now.

 

[madge]

I was thinking along the lines of ET, TMZ, etc. I think the Today Show was a good move, however, I'm thinking getting the word out to the masses. Not everyone gets to stay home and watch these daytime shows. However, everyone goes to Target, the grocery store, etc. and will see the rags at the checkout stand.

Do people really watch that much TV anymore, for news? People get a lot of their information from the internet these days.

And at the end of the day, how newsworthy is Kate? I mean seriously newsworthy. Elizabeth Edwards did Oprah, and she's on every major media outlet. People know who she is. Now granted, her husband ran for President, which makes it newsworthy. But she did one interview on a talk show, and it's everywhere.

 

[TotalSnowWhite]

I'm not sure how credible Jon & Kate are going to be without addressing this on the show. I'm not sure that they can continue to claim this is "reality" when dancing around the elephant in the room.

I also don't think that we've heard the last of the allegations -- from either Jon or Kate.

8 Little Faces has dropped in the NYT book selling ratings. It's not in any of the top 10 lists.

I think Kate is desperately trying to get herself established as a speaker or spokesperson so she can continue on without Jon.

How many episodes have there been of JK8? at 50,000 a pop? Plus book & DVD sales, speaking engagements .. there should be a nice nest egg by now.

I thought it was just the last season (maybe last two) that were raking in the big bucks. Either way, that definitely would be livable to you and me, but they've got way more expenses than we do. If they stopped the show, the freebies would probably stop (or at least slow down), so most of that stuff would have to be paid out of pocket. Would they have to move? Are there house payments? Insurance, clothes, food, etc., etc., etc. for the next 13 years times eight!!

P.S. Can you tell I'm done with work?? I'm officially on summer break!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Back to your regularly scheduled thread.

Oh, and we're going to see The Lion King tonight!!!

OK, now back...

 

[DreaGirl]

What got me in the interview was when kate said she didn't care that her book was on the new york best seller list, that she only wrote it for her children to know how she felt about them. Then why have it published and leave your children to promote it? I tell me chidren all the time to their face and then in birthday and christmas cards how I feel about them. I guess I not a good mom if my feelings are being published for the whole world to read.

I'm sorry but if you want to write a book, then say you wanted to write a book. Don't say you're doing this for the kids. So, the books, the mansion, the trip to hawaii with the vow renewal, the solar panels, the new furniture, are ALL just for the kids. Please, give me a break.

I agree, I think her head is swelling and she is putting herself up on a pedestal. Just say you wanted to write the book, don't tell untruths about why you did it.

Those two need to learn that action speaks louder than words.

I think that the glaring spotlight of fame is in their eyes. I think they think they are really showing their kids love. Money isn't everything and at this point they probably have a lot of money in the bank.

Oh, and I love how they can show their kids peeing and pooping on portable potty's all around the house but some things like Jon's infidelity are private! Hello, you're on a reality show that YOU chose to do. You've got to expect that people will want to see you talk about the scandal on your show.

This, exactly!

Hopefully, they didn't. They were at home with Jon, who knows if he turned on the TV for them to watch mommy. Surely not. I can't imagine that he'd do that... no one knows what these kids have seen and heard over the last few months

Let's hope he was smart enough to watch it alone while the kids were with the nanny.

I just watched the clip, and I agree she didn't seem angry or tired. I was struck by how she claims people she her as an inspiration. Maybe in the first year or two, but she is no inspiration now!

About the book, she "wanted her kids to have it in writing how she feels about them" b/c maybe they won't know since she took the fame and ran with it w/o it considering the affect on them?.....Don't kids just know by your day to day interactions that they are valued and loved? Seems things, stuff are what is important to Kate. The things OTHER people can see.

I'm disturbed by her.

During the first special I thought "Holy cow, how in the world does she do it alone?" Then I read an interview that said at the point of filming that first special they had about 15 people a day coming to help them out. So, then I knew that it was all a bunch of bull. I wouldn't say it's easy, but it is doable when you have all those people helping you out.

I can't believe she speaks that way on a public platform. Maybe it's because she's nervious? I'd think you'd get over that being in front of people at speaking engagements and such. I'd also think she would be more comfortable with the cameras there since that's what she's used to. She had to have an idea of the questions or topics that would be discussed and could have had something in mind as a response before the interview.

I agree she needs to be careful stereotyping - we all do it sometimes. I think, in general she was trying to make a point and maybe she doesn't define "tabloids" the way we do (like she's thinking more like National Enquirer not People). That could be part of the misunderstanding as well.



Yes the picture was taken at their house. Yes it could have been during nap time or while the kids were at church with someone else or at a friend's house or whatever. But, that's a big house and Kate's always saying how much laundry there is to do. I'd think he'd have other things to do to fill his day than lay out in the yard. JMHO The kids could also have been in the yard but how are they being presented this situation?? The twins have to be old enough to think something's not quite right if Daddy's out three nights a week with "Dede". How come Daddy's not staying home with us? How come Mommy's not home? We just don't know what they're being told or how it's being presented. The little ones aren't probably figuring out this isn't how things are in many families. The twins have to have a good idea that this is NOT how things are for many families. I'd think J&K have explained that "because of the show we're able to go to Disney" or whatever so they understand that this is "work" for their family.

I agree they would need something big to keep themselves afloat just between the basics (food, house, utilities, vehicle, insurance) let alone anything above and beyond like tuition to a private school, trips, anything like that.


I agree - as much as I'm normally pro sharing your experiences good or bad, I'm thinking TLC just junks the "bad" ones. I'm sure the "Kate's my idol and inspiration for living" emails far outweigh the "I'm no longer a viewer" emails - just a guess on my part.

Jon doesn't have anything filling his days. They have a nanny, we know for sure. I'm sure they kept their housekeeper from the other house or hired a new one. The nanny probably does the laundry and the grocery shopping as part of her duties, so what is left?

If the show were to end (which it will end, it won't be on the air forever) they could sell their house, sell 2 of Jon's cars, other items that aren't needed. Kate and the kids, or heck Jon and the kids, could move into a smaller house (or back to their old one which I understand is still on the market). Kate could work as a nurse during school hours and Jon could go back to work in IT. They wouldn't be able to take a trip every month or dress in all Gymboree, but they could get by. There are a lot of big families out there that don't have reality shows that make it day to day. Let's be real, they don't NEED a reality show to get by, they would just have to live like the rest of us.

Kate said "you can't go back", well I tend to disagree. She doesn't WANT to go back, plain and simple.

Nice discussion here ladies (and gentleman).

 

[TotalSnowWhite]

Do people really watch that much TV anymore, for news? People get a lot of their information from the internet these days.

And at the end of the day, how newsworthy is Kate? I mean seriously newsworthy. Elizabeth Edwards did Oprah, and she's on every major media outlet. People know who she is. Now granted, her husband ran for President, which makes it newsworthy. But she did one interview on a talk show, and it's everywhere.

That's what I'm saying...
If they got any coverage, it would probably be from tabloid shows as the Gosselins aren't huge stars.

Sooo, talking to outlets that have a wider reach (who doesn't glance at the stuff while checking out?) would be the smarter move.

 

[DreaGirl]

P.S. Can you tell I'm done with work?? I'm officially on summer break!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Back to your regularly scheduled thread.

Oh, and we're going to see The Lion King tonight!!!

OK, now back...

Welcome to Summer Break!

Have fun at Lion King! Can't wait to hear about it!!

 

[DreaGirl]

That's what I'm saying...
If they got any coverage, it would probably be from tabloid shows as the Gosselins aren't huge stars.

Sooo, talking to outlets that have a wider reach (who doesn't glance at the stuff while checking out?) would be the smarter move.

I bet they could get on The View. That is right up their alley.

 

[TotalSnowWhite]

I bet they could get on The View. That is right up their alley.

Ugh! I can't stomach The View. Of course, I'm not usually home to wach daytime TV, but I will be for the next three weeks before summer school!!

 

[3prettyprincesses]

Neither can the followers of the story. People want them to speak out about it. Well, how else are they going to get their comments heard? As popular as it is in internetland, I doubt any big media coverage (aside from tabloid tv shows) would be given to a Gosselin press conference. Gotta get it out there somehow.

What really gets me more than the actual scandal (because, honestly, with celebs it's old hat) is the venom from the Kate haters. I scanned a couple of comments from articles, etc. I understand people being mad at Jon (woman scorned and all that), but others seem to be reveling in the fact that he may have cheated. Others have said things along the lines that Jon should have slapped Kate, etc., etc., etc. Please tell me, aside from self-defense during an attack, when it's ok to condone hitting a husband hitting his wife?

I know, I know, running joke on the thread about Michelle and me, but I really just can't see why people have so much animosity towards someone they don't know. That's why I stand up for them a lot. It's not that I think the Gosselins can do no wrong, but I do know that they can't do all wrong. I've pointed out things I've seen as shortcomings on their part and even make fun of them occasionally, but the haters seem to be very stuck in their mindset. I don't care for the Duggars, but I would never dream of attacking them blindly on the internet.

Someone also mentioned they should quit the show (not marching on or something). Hypothetically, if Jon cheated and they split, please tell me how a single parent is going to support eight kids doing a normal 8-5. Money is a driving force in this world. You can't live without it, and they've found a way to get it in droves for very little labor (I won't say "work" because I do think it's work to have kids).

Hey we don't make fun of you and Michelle! Just kidding, I love this thread!

I think people DO feel like they know J&K. Why? Because they're allowed to come into their homes via the TV every week. I'm sure lots of us know many of the kids' little quirks/behaviors not to mention J&K's too as well. They have chosen (CHOSEN) to live this life. Nobody forced them. I think that's what people are forgetting. J&K chose to do the show and chose it for their little ones too. It's not a normal life they lead. How can it be with all the cameras, extra people, appearances, outings with special attention and so on. Anyhoo, I'm getting off topic here.

They have obviously been making loads of $ since the show started not to mention the freebies. If that all stops, then so be it. I'm sure that sounds harsh but I don't feel sorry for them in that respect. They can adjust and I'm sure that Kate has stashed plenty of moola away! Plus, didn't the PA governor or some official person give them a college fund for the kids? Seriously, if J&K can't afford their new house, sell it then. Don't keep doing the show for financial reasons. It's their fault they've let it snowball the way it has. Their kids are more important. I also don't buy that argument...they can't quit the show cause they need the $. They can make adjustments and get real jobs. Why on earth should we all feel sorry for them as big celebrities that might have to (gasp) lead normal lives and not make $100,000's a year? I understand how money makes the world go round but come on, you KNOW Kate's got coupons saved up!

 

[irishbosoxfan]

Was this link a video clip or an article? My websense at work blocks it.

Kate ‘hesitant to believe’ Jon was unfaithful
Reality-TV mom vows they will ‘weather this storm’; husband issues denial

By Mike Celizic
TODAYShow.com contributor
updated 8:51 a.m. CT, Thurs., May 7, 2009
The mother of the eight tiny stars of “Jon & Kate Plus 8” vowed Thursday to survive the tabloid firestorm that has erupted over allegations that her husband cheated on her — charges that Jon Gosselin emphatically denies.

“We just need to weather this storm, just like all the other storms that we’ve been through,” Kate Gosselin told TODAY’s Meredith Vieira in New York. The tabloid attention and paparazzi have come as something of a surprise to her, she added.

“It is so public. It’s one of the things we did not envision when we started our show,” Gosselin said. “It’s one of the things that comes with it — the tabloid stuff. To be very honest, I’m very hesitant to believe any of it. It comes with the territory. We’re dealing with it just like everybody else does.”

Kate minus Jon & 8
Gosselin was ostensibly visiting TODAY to talk about her new best-selling book “Eight Little Faces,” but she spent much of her airtime with Vieira talking about the allegations, which were published in the current edition of Us Weekly. Jon Gosselin and their eight children had been scheduled to appear with her, but as controversy continued to swirl, the family decided Wednesday that it would be better if Jon stayed at home with the children.

Instead, Jon sent a statement to TODAY denying the charges that he had an affair with 23-year-old Deanna Hummel, whom he met in January in a Reading, Pa., bar. Hummel also denies that the two are anything but friends.

“These allegations are false and just plain hurtful,” Jon said in his statement. “As I adjust to the attention that comes from being in the public eye, I need to be more careful and aware of who I am associating with and where I am spending my time. But the bottom line is, I did not cheat on Kate. I am sorry for putting my family in this awkward position, given some poor decisions and bad judgments I've made recently. I am working through this difficult time with my family. My family is my top priority.”

The reports of infidelity were attributed by the gossip magazine to Hummel’s older brother, Jason, with whom she lives.

Jason Hummel claimed that Jon has come to their house and spent time alone with his sister in her room. He said he could hear the two having sex.

Deanna fired back in People magazine, saying, “"My brother is making this all up. I can’t even stomach the lies he’s saying about me.”

Private vs. public
“You have to remember, take it with a grain of salt,” Kate Gosselin told Vieira. “Tabloids pay thousands of dollars for stories. The juicier the story, the more the payment. When you pick up those sort of magazines, is it believable? Ask yourself. People are being paid to talk.”

“Jon & Kate Plus 8” is moving into its seventh season on TLC. Vieira asked if the allegations are going to be part of the show.

“We’re dealing with it privately. It’s kind of ironic to say that, because we do have a reality show. People see the good, the bad and the ugly. But there are those things that we keep to ourselves. And we’re working through it together, and that’s the important thing,” Gosselin replied.

While Gosselin said she understands the tabloid fascination with her family, she admitted it’s not pleasant.

“I’m not going to sit here and say I enjoy it,” she said. “I tend to be very thick-skinned. We all know that. It’s hurtful for the sake of my children, looking through their eyes, seeing the things that are out there. It’s absolutely not a bit enjoyable. But we’re learning as we go along. I’m really focusing on our kids. Everything I do is for them.”

She said her second book, “Eight Little Faces,” was written for her 8-year-old twins and 5-year-old sextuplets. The book features two-page picture spreads of the children. Each spread is accompanied by some words from Kate and a relevant Bible verse.

“I honestly don’t care if either one ever sells one copy,” she said. “I’m flattered and thrilled that they both hit the New York Times best-seller list, but certainly that was not my goal or my focus. I want my kids to have in writing how I feel about them, and how I may not have planned for them, but they are so the best eight things in the whole world.”


Jon and Kate met at a party in October 1997 and were married in June 1999. When they tried to start a family, they learned that Kate had polycystic ovarian syndrome that prevented her from ovulating. They went to a fertility clinic and Kate conceived twins Cara and Madelyn, who were born in October 2000.

After considering adoption, the couple instead returned to their fertility clinic. This time, Kate conceived sextuplets. On May 10, 2004, she gave birth to Alexis, Aaden, Collin, Leah, Hannah and Joel.

Rumors that Jon was straying have been circulating on the Internet for several months and came to a head with the publication of the Us Weekly story.

Jon, 32, and Deanna Hummel confirm that they know each other and met in January at the Chill Lounge in Reading, Pa. A paparazzo photographed both leaving the bar early in the morning of April 18 while Kate was on a book tour and Jon was home alone.

Both say they’re just friends and deny any improper behavior.

Said Kate Gosselin: “It goes with the territory. We knew to expect it.”

She said the stories won’t change the way they live.

“We are living our lives, whether in the public eye or not,” Gosselin told Vieira. “We’ve always said, ‘Come along, capture what you can, it’s the realest reality show that there is, and come along for the ride.’ It’s been very encouraging to us to see how people have found us inspiring, and we’re not perfect. I’m the first one to say it.”

 

[DreaGirl]

The college argument is what get me. Parents are not obligated to pay for college. While it is nice, it isn't always possible. I took out student loans (payed off!!) and worked 2 jobs and I did just fine, graduating in 4.5 years.

With that many siblings, the kids will qualify for some grants (one of my many on campus jobs was in financial aid), there are so many scholarships out there for everything under the sun, and loans.

 

[DreaGirl]

Does anyone else find it odd in all the statements that both of them have made that not one of them says "I love my husband" or "I love my wife". They say they care about the kids, love the kids, but what about each other?

 

[3prettyprincesses]

The college argument is what get me. Parents are not obligated to pay for college. While it is nice, it isn't always possible. I took out student loans (payed off!!) and worked 2 jobs and I did just fine, graduating in 4.5 years.

With that many siblings, the kids will qualify for some grants (one of my many on campus jobs was in financial aid), there are so many scholarships out there for everything under the sun, and loans.

No kidding! I took out loans for nearly all of my college tuition and worked my butt for the rest.

Does anyone else find it odd in all the statements that both of them have made that not one of them says "I love my husband" or "I love my wife". They say they care about the kids, love the kids, but what about each other?

Yup, I do find it odd too. If it were me in that situation and I really felt the allegations were false, I'd be saying how much I love my DH and would expect my DH to be saying the same. I thought it was strange that neither did.

I also found it interesting that during the Today Show interview with Meredith, Kate said “I’m not going to sit here and say I enjoy it,” she said. “I tend to be very thick-skinned. We all know that. It’s hurtful for the sake of my children, looking through their eyes, seeing the things that are out there. It’s absolutely not a bit enjoyable. But we’re learning as we go along. I’m really focusing on our kids. Everything I do is for them.”

I took this to mean that yes, it's unfortunate my kids have been exposed to this but we're learning from it and will keep on going! She really is self-deluded to think that her kids are going to "learn" from this experience. Everything she does is for them? How is being gone from home 3-4 a week for a stupid book tour FOR them? Speaking of her new book, it's getting horrible reviews on Amazon. Pretty much everyone dislikes it that reviewed it.

http://www.amazon.com/Eight-Little-...=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1241719625&sr=8-1

 

[talulabelle]

Oh what I wouldn't pay to see a "real" episode of this family right now. The way Kate must be talking to Jon must be more venomous than usual even.

I have always seen Kate a a controling beast and Jon as a spineless loser. SO I can't decide if I understand Jon for having an affair because he was driven to it by the way Kate treats him and the fact she doesn't seem to love him at all. (I picture her making him Purell himself all over before any physical contact), or if I feel sorry for Kate and realize now why she is so controling and mean to him because he is in fact such a loser with poor judgement. It is all just too much.

The one thing I do know is that these kids are going to be some kind of messed up for the rest of their lives. Not only from the cameras, but look at their parents, and thier lives. Imagine what they are hearing when the cameras aren't around. Even if their selfish parents were to "wake up" tomorrow, and realize how awlful it is what they have done to these kids, it is too late now. Paparazzi are always going to be trying to catch a shot of these kids. Their pictures will be appearing in the "where are they now" sections of Perez Hilton and rag mags. I feel so sorry for these children. I doubt they will give a rats behind that they got to go to Disney because of the show as they will about watching the episode of their mother torturing them with the icecream over something as silly as clothes. I doubt they will care that they lived in a larger house as much as they will be embarrassed by what their parents did to get it. It is all so sad.

 

[FarAway<3]

Oh what I wouldn't pay to see a "real" episode of this family right now. The way Kate must be talking to Jon must be more venomous than usual even.

I have always seen Kate a a controling beast and Jon as a spineless loser. SO I can't decide if I understand Jon for having an affair because he was driven to it by the way Kate treats him and the fact she doesn't seem to love him at all. (I picture her making him Purell himself all over before any physical contact), or if I feel sorry for Kate and realize now why she is so controling and mean to him because he is in fact such a loser with poor judgement. It is all just too much.

The one thing I do know is that these kids are going to be some kind of messed up for the rest of their lives. Not only from the cameras, but look at their parents, and thier lives. Imagine what they are hearing when the cameras aren't around. Even if their selfish parents were to "wake up" tomorrow, and realize how awlful it is what they have done to these kids, it is too late now. Paparazzi are always going to be trying to catch a shot of these kids. Their pictures will be appearing in the "where are they now" sections of Perez Hilton and rag mags. I feel so sorry for these children. I doubt they will give a rats behind that they got to go to Disney because of the show as they will about watching the episode of their mother torturing them with the icecream over something as silly as clothes. I doubt they will care that they lived in a larger house as much as they will be embarrassed by what their parents did to get it. It is all so sad.

Feel that way! lol, that's how I feel. I've always thought Jon was a loser, and kind of an idiot. Now I think he's a complete idiot, and I hope Kate is giving him total hell right now.

 

[talulabelle]

Feel that way! lol, that's how I feel. I've always thought Jon was a loser, and kind of an idiot. Now I think he's a complete idiot, and I hope Kate is giving him total hell right now.

Oh, don't worry. Rest assured that Kate is making it her personal mission to make him go through hell right now. Now THISis the book I would like to see her write. I don't care how she feels about her kids (we ALL love our kids - what makes her so special, that her feelings need to be in a book?) But I think her manual on how to put your spineless husband through his own personal hell would be extremely useful to some. Now not only would that be good reading, it would be informational!

 

[DreaGirl]

Well, now there is a sex tape floating around of DeAnna and her ex-boyfriend. I don't want to link to it, but I'm sure you will find it easy enough through google. This is never going to end.