Jon and Kate Plus 8 official Thread, Part 2!!

[CottonCandyLvr]

It wasn't so much what she was saying as how she was saying it. We all need our privacy, but the way she went on and on was a bit much. Just my opinion.

So lets get this straight, Kate deserves HER privacy, but its okay that the kids privacy is nonexistant?

 

[MichelleVW]

as all of the kids get older, I wonder how they will feel about Hannah being the only child with her won room. Everyone else has to share. Not Hannah......

Who knows?? They may switch it up later as the time goes by. My girls would sometimes want to share a room and sometimes they would want their own, depends on their mood. I'm sure they are doing what they think is best for their family and I can only wish them the best.

Ya my understanding was that the talking about kate like you a) know her personally and b) are 12 with a vendetta is what people were calling wild accusations. I don't think everything kate does is great. Personally I'd be less worried about the mess level and more on the hitting but they aren't my kids and I can see what people mean about the nagging and favortism. But I've been around kids who were actually abused...you know locked in their rooms while their parents got high, burned with cigarette butts, told they can't have any milk cause it's daddy's...I'm sure they'd trade with one of the gosselins and share a room in a heart beat.

But the level of hate directed at her over stuff that has never been on camera I find a little unbalanced. There are people I know that I'm not a fan of and I can't imagine spending all my time trying to make them look bad on a message board or a blog; let alone somebody I've never met. If you don't like the show don't watch it. If you know them in real life take up your issues with them there. There is absolutely no reason to join a message board devoted to travel and do nothing but bash a reality TV star.

Exactly, it's really disturbing that someone has that much hatred for someone on tv. This Cotttoncandyperson has made no secret of her hatred of Kate and that she only came on the Dis because she wanted to correct our misconceptions of J&K.

 

[MichelleVW]

I was just looking at pics online of their new house from the air. It's so beautiful and I LOVE the pool, but as a person with horses, I would want the barn closer to the house.

I know they don't have and probably shouldn't get horses, but since almost everything I do revolves around my horses it's what I noticed about the property. All I can think about is living there and having to walk that far in the rain or snow to take care of the horses!!

 

[CottonCandyLvr]

That's my 2 cents on the new house. If they can afford it, good for them. I hope they have a plan of how they will support themselves if the show gets cancelled. I guess Kate will have to be Kate, RN again and Jon will go back to being a computer geek.

A nurses salary and a 50K a year IT Job will not be able to pay for the upkeep of that house! Its $7,929.00 a month in mortgage alone.

Thats
$95,148.00 a year mortgage
$36,000.00 annual taxes
$12,000.00 a year electric
$3600.00 a year cable
$1500.00 a year water amd sewer
$360.00 security monitoring
$1200.00 a year phone
$7000.00 landscaping
$500.00 pool upkeep
$15,000.00 horse and dog upkeep
$30,000.00 insurance (health, home, auto, horse&dog, pool and liability)
$12,000.00 Food per year

This comes out to a whopping $214,338.00 in annual upkeep and costs.

(this doesnt include cars, gas, clothing or trips)

Jon is not a Master IT man, and Kates a so-so Nurse.
Did they REALLLLY need this house and all those expenses in this economy?

 

[CottonCandyLvr]

But I've been around kids who were actually abused...you know locked in their rooms while their parents got high, burned with cigarette butts, told they can't have any milk cause it's daddy's...I'm sure they'd trade with one of the gosselins and share a room in a heart beat.

DO NOT EVER imply that emotional and mental abuse is somehow better than physical abuse. its actually worse.

 

[MichelleVW]

DO NOT EVER imply that emotional and mental abuse is somehow better than physical abuse. its actually worse.

oh good lord....those children are not mentally abused and for goodness sakes Michelle-STOP FEEDING THE FREAKING TROLL!

 

[OhMari]

No honey.

Ill leave stalking to the FANS. The FANS are so rabid and obsessed that Jon and Kate listed their old house in Elizabethtown 100 THOUSAND DOLLARS over the value price!
Its listed at $350,000.00 ...Its value is only $227,000.00!
You know why they did that? Cause they KNOW that one of the FANS just might be so psycho about all things Jon and Kate, that they might be able to sucker a fan into buying it at that inflated price!
Its also why Jon and Kate did not CLEAN that house before moving out!
They left the old house a WRECK!
Its full of post it notes, trashbags, old kids furniture, coffee cups, hair clips and laundry and cleaning supplies.
They left it that way, hoping that an obsessed fan might buy it with all those "mementos" left in it.
The fans are crazy enough to pay 100K too!
Some fans buy the kids 100s of dollars of xmas presents a year!

Take a look
http://s424.photobucket.com/albums/pp329/CelebHouses/

A nurses salary and a 50K a year IT Job will not be able to pay for the upkeep of that house! Its $7,929.00 a month in mortgage alone.

Thats
$95,148.00 a year mortgage
$36,000.00 annual taxes
$12,000.00 a year electric
$3600.00 a year cable
$1500.00 a year water amd sewer
$360.00 security monitoring
$1200.00 a year phone
$7000.00 landscaping
$500.00 pool upkeep
$15,000.00 horse and dog upkeep
$30,000.00 insurance (health, home, auto, horse&dog, pool and liability)
$12,000.00 Food per year

This comes out to a whopping $214,338.00 in annual upkeep and costs.

(this doesnt include cars, gas, clothing or trips)

Jon is not a Master IT man, and Kates a so-so Nurse.
Did they REALLLLY need this house and all those expenses in this economy?

You have some interesting facts,
yet you like to add comments that are your opinions.
We all get it that you don't like the show.
Sometimes we don't either,
but we don't try to convince everyone else that posts on this thread.

Ease up a little okay, and maybe stop watching the show.
Then you wouldn't have to worry so much about how the Gosselins are going to afford everything.

 

[CottonCandyLvr]

oh good lord....those children are not mentally abused and for goodness sakes Michelle-STOP FEEDING THE FREAKING TROLL!

I will tell you right now with no hesitation that in 15-20 yrs when they are on all the tv talk shows telling you how bad it was and writing their Mommy Dearest books, they will tell you they were indeed abused emotionally.

This one fact is why I try to get the truth out.

 

[brockash]

It's my opinion too, but I saw it as a mom who went a little overboard, not "unChristian" but that's just my opinion.

Yes, I'm not sure what religion had to do with that

 

[brockash]

The previous owners of J&K's new mansion are an OB/GYN Dr that Kate used to be a nurse for. She knows him, personally, so it made it even more nasty of her to complain about non existant dirt.
TLC paid for a house cleaner, so Kate just cleaned for show. She did half a fridge and wiped out the pantry on camera to "make an episode".

Amazing isnt it? Jon and Kate exploit their kids and are unemployed and not very good Christians or decent people and they get a huge house, while their EX friend Beth and her hubby Bob have worked their whole lives and been good honest caring people and Christians and apparently (from rumors) they have lost their house and had to buy a smaller one due to the bad economy.

Well, whatever happens, Beth and Bob will be far richer in their little house than Kate will be in her huge one cause Kate is never satisfied and all the kids will leave her (except for Hannah!)[/QUOTEr]

Oh my what's with all the religion tonight. Hopefully you didn't mean it this way, but it really came off as "Christian" ppl. deserve to live in a big house and "non-Chistian ppl. do not. Again, I don't have any idea what their religion has to do with the show

 

[GeorgiaPeach8]

Is anyone watching Toddlers and Tiaras--move over J & K--I may have a new train wreck!

 

[MichelleVW]

I will tell you right now with no hesitation that in 15-20 yrs when they are on all the tv talk shows telling you how bad it was and writing their Mommy Dearest books, they will tell you they were indeed abused emotionally.

This one fact is why I try to get the truth out.

Oh please tell us how you PERSONALLY know this "fact" to be true.

(sorry people, I've been stuck inside all day due to the weather so I am bored and feeding the troll)

 

[MichelleVW]

Is anyone watching Toddlers and Tiaras--move over J & K--I may have a new train wreck!

I've got that one taping to watch tomorrow!

 

[CottonCandyLvr]

You have some interesting facts,
yet you like to add comments that are your opinions.
We all get it that you don't like the show.
Sometimes we don't either,
but we don't try to convince everyone else that posts on this thread.

Ease up a little okay, and maybe stop watching the show.
Then you wouldn't have to worry so much about how the Gosselins are going to afford everything.

No, what I speak are facts. Not opinions.
Jodi and Julie tell you, The neighbors speak out, Kates sister tried to speak out, Paul Peterson spoke out GWoP tries to tell you things, the old volunteers in Reading spoke out in droves...

WHEN ARE YOU GOING TO START HEARING US!?

And I no longer watch the show (except for this mondays show to see how they were going to spin buying a million dollar home in THIS economy)

THESE KIDS ARE NOT FOR YOUR (MY OR ANYONES) ENTERTAINMENT.
Go read the Facebook fan site, you will see the HEIGHTS of fan psychopathy...

Can you imagine what its going to be like for Mady in 15 yrs? When she goes to apply for a job and someone judges her based on her nutjob moms treatment of her? "Ohhh Mady Gosselin? Oh you are Bratty Mady!!!!! OMG, you were such a brat on that show!" (did you know that people on the internet call Mady a C word and the B word?
Shes a 7 YEAR OLD CHILD WHO KNOWS THAT SHE ISNT THE STAR OF THE SHOW, THE TUPS ARE. she KNOWS that when the Tups came her mom stopped paying attention to her. Madys world revolved around Kate and Kate replaced her with 6 babies then Hannah, and Mady has been trying desperately to get that love back. Get it yet?
Or being stopped in public asking about "Joel and his wiener" and asking about their first poop pics!

Kate doesnt care about them, but you can start.
Stop viewing me or others that try to tell you the real story as the enemy.

 

[brockash]

DO NOT EVER imply that emotional and mental abuse is somehow better than physical abuse. its actually worse.

Are you trying to say that the Gosselin kids are somehow mentally abused??? Come on.... you don't have to like the family, but the love Jon and Kate both have for their children is very clear.

 

[brockash]

No, what I speak are facts. Not opinions.
Jodi and Julie tell you, The neighbors speak out, Kates sister tried to speak out, Paul Peterson spoke out GWoP tries to tell you things, the old volunteers in Reading spoke out in droves...

WHEN ARE YOU GOING TO START HEARING US!?

And I no longer watch the show (except for this mondays show to see how they were going to spin buying a million dollar home in THIS economy)

THESE KIDS ARE NOT FOR YOUR (MY OR ANYONES) ENTERTAINMENT.
Go read the Facebook fan site, you will see the HEIGHTS of fan psychopathy...

Can you imagine what its going to be like for Mady in 15 yrs? When she goes to apply for a job and someone judges her based on her nutjob moms treatment of her? "Ohhh Mady Gosselin? Oh you are Bratty Mady!!!!! OMG, you were such a brat on that show!" (did you know that people on the internet call Mady a C word and the B word?
Shes a 7 YEAR OLD CHILD WHO KNOWS THAT SHE ISNT THE STAR OF THE SHOW, THE TUPS ARE. she KNOWS that when the Tups came her mom stopped paying attention to her. Madys world revolved around Kate and Kate replaced her with 6 babies then Hannah, and Mady has been trying desperately to get that love back. Get it yet?
Or being stopped in public asking about "Joel and his wiener" and asking about their first poop pics!

Kate doesnt care about them, but you can start.
Stop viewing me or others that try to tell you the real story as the enemy.

Wow

 

[MichelleVW]

No, what I speak are facts. Not opinions.

Sorry, they are your opinions...

 

[OhMari]

No, what I speak are facts. Not opinions.
Jodi and Julie tell you, The neighbors speak out, Kates sister tried to speak out, Paul Peterson spoke out GWoP tries to tell you things, the old volunteers in Reading spoke out in droves...

WHEN ARE YOU GOING TO START HEARING US!?

And I no longer watch the show (except for this mondays show to see how they were going to spin buying a million dollar home in THIS economy)

THESE KIDS ARE NOT FOR YOUR (MY OR ANYONES) ENTERTAINMENT.
Go read the Facebook fan site, you will see the HEIGHTS of fan psychopathy...

Can you imagine what its going to be like for Mady in 15 yrs? When she goes to apply for a job and someone judges her based on her nutjob moms treatment of her? "Ohhh Mady Gosselin? Oh you are Bratty Mady!!!!! OMG, you were such a brat on that show!" (did you know that people on the internet call Mady a C word and the B word?
Shes a 7 YEAR OLD CHILD WHO KNOWS THAT SHE ISNT THE STAR OF THE SHOW, THE TUPS ARE. she KNOWS that when the Tups came her mom stopped paying attention to her. Madys world revolved around Kate and Kate replaced her with 6 babies then Hannah, and Mady has been trying desperately to get that love back. Get it yet?



Or being stopped in public asking about "Joel and his wiener" and asking about their first poop pics!

Kate doesnt care about them, but you can start.
Stop viewing me or others that try to tell you the real story as the enemy.

I never said you were the enemy.
I was just asking you to calm down and stop trying
to convince us to jump on the bandwagon with your posts.

I think you may want to read a guideline that the DIS has.

4. NO FIGHTING/SARCASM: While we'd like to think that a Disney fan site is always lighthearted, there are times when there are disagreements. Let's face it, there are certain topics that can transform any of us into a raging "Donald Duck." When you sense this is happening, we ask that you step away from the discussion before it escalates into a fight. Just like Mom always said about fighting, we don't care who started the argument and we don't want it on the DIS. (Okay, she didn't say the part about the DIS, but you know what we mean.) No attacking others and no sarcasm please. Either will result in an infraction.

 

[AlleyKat]

A nurses salary and a 50K a year IT Job will not be able to pay for the upkeep of that house! Its $7,929.00 a month in mortgage alone.

Thats
$95,148.00 a year mortgage
$36,000.00 annual taxes
$12,000.00 a year electric
$3600.00 a year cable
$1500.00 a year water amd sewer
$360.00 security monitoring
$1200.00 a year phone
$7000.00 landscaping
$500.00 pool upkeep
$15,000.00 horse and dog upkeep
$30,000.00 insurance (health, home, auto, horse&dog, pool and liability)
$12,000.00 Food per year

This comes out to a whopping $214,338.00 in annual upkeep and costs.

(this doesnt include cars, gas, clothing or trips)

Jon is not a Master IT man, and Kates a so-so Nurse.
Did they REALLLLY need this house and all those expenses in this economy?

"Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt"...Abraham Lincoln

The figures above, your mental hospital statement, your "reappearance" to spew hatred and opinionated "facts" after the grand showing of Jon and Kate's GORGEOUS estate, these scream overwhelming jealousy on your part!


Mortgage? They most likely paid cash for their estate!

Good Lord, if you can't stand this family, leave them be!

 

[CottonCandyLvr]

Are you trying to say that the Gosselin kids are somehow mentally abused??? Come on.... you don't have to like the family, but the love Jon and Kate both have for their children is very clear.

No it isnt!

In fact i dont see any LOVE at all!