Jon and Kate Plus 8 official Thread, Part 2!!

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I still wish they would do a "Wife Swap" with Mrs. Duggar or Mrs. Roloff. I think it's a splendid idea.


Heck - I wish they'd do a wife swap with ME!

My family would appreciate me so much more after spending some time with Kate and I would love to spend some time with those children. Who wouldn't? And I'm sure Jon would appreciate the break from being yelled at and insulted constantly.

Yep, let me pack my bags......I'm ready.:flower3:
 
I mostly lurk on this thread because I go back and forth in my love/hate for Kate.

However, she was very ugly last night and I don't mean physically. I can't imagine for the life of me cleaning a frig and letting my kids bottoms go unwiped. I also thought it was arrogant when she was at the sink and looked out the window and said "as far as you can see, it's all mine, it's all mine" as she waved her hands over the land outside. I was very "queen of the kingdom" to me and made her seem ungrateful for how fortunate she has become.

I have never had a problem with the Roloff's big additions because it is their house and they have had it for years, I understand their desire to add space to a home they love.

Jon and Kate on the other hand have let their cable show and semi-celebrity status completely go to their heads, in my opinion. They are not nearly as sympathetic as they used to be and after last night's episode, I won't feel bad for them when ( not if ) the whole thing all comes tumbling down on them.

I personally believe their will be long term repercussions from their show and that the kids have some behavioral issues with hurting each other. I don't think it is normal for siblings to contantly hit each other.

Also, the hate coming out of Kate's mouth during the whole master bedroom scene was so cold and harsh to me. I can't imagine my parents telling me that I was never allowed in their room or ever saying that to my daughter when she was young. Plus going on and on about how Mommy and Daddy need their privacy, ugh! So unnecessary!

I hope they are happy in their new home but it is pretty obvious that Kate will never ever really be "happy", I just don't think it is in her psyche to be.

Just my opinion,

MsA

I agree 100%, I use to love the show but kate started to get greedy. Well Iam wondering what they are going to now that a couple in cali,had 8 babies ? Now john and kate will have to work to pay for that house and the PA taxes.:rotfl2: :lmao:
 
I couldn't believe when she lectured her kids about staying out of her room. They're 4 for godsakes!! Kids are always going to want to crawl in mommy's bed when they don't feel good or have a bad dream. I understand not wanting them to always be lingering in there, but to say "never ever step foot in here again or there will be severe punishment" is ridiculous!!

And Hannah getting her own room?? Favoritism, much?? I would think at least the older girls would get their own spaces before having a little kid get their own room, seems completely unfair. I understand she gets migraines and what not, but it still seems unfair. Hannah seems to get the best treatment out of all of the kids. Remember that episode where Hannah got to sit in ont he interview couch with her parents the entire episode?? I also felt bad for Cara when she was asked to wipe the kid's butt!! :sad2:
 

I also thought it was weird that the older girls didn't get their own rooms either.
 
Ok, I just watched it and here's what I think....

The stay out the room lecture was a bit much but honestly I don't see them sticking with it, but more power to them if they can, I think everyone needs a kid free room.

I really could care less that Hannah gets her own room and apparently the other two little kids didn't care either.

I personally would have given the bedroom with the bathroom to the girls, but they can always change that when the girls are older.

I thought the whole poop scene was too dang funny, especially when Colin said, "now two kids are pooping" :rotfl: I don't see the big drama about Cara wiping a hiney, we had to do the same with our younger sister when I was young. (I'm sure the Duggar girls are expert hiney wipers ;) )

If the fridge was as gross as she said I would have been cleaning it like mad too......cleaning fridges properly takes awhile especially one that big!
 
I have had the same exact fridge - it's a nightmare to clean. It's a Subzero and for some bizarre reason, it gets mildewy inside. I could never figure it out, and we ended up replacing it with a newer model that doesn't. I thought I had a bad seal that was allowing the moisture to accumulate. I had deja vu watching her clean the fridge. It was a royal PITA. I am sure that will be the first major appliance she replaces.

I run hot and cold with Kate - but as far as the fridge is concerned - it would take me a long time to clean mine and all the crevices along each shelf and each shelf and basket had like rubber seals that would need to be cleaned and it was my own family's germs. The specks of mildew would gather in the crevices - you'd have to experience it to understand that four hours (and it happened in my freezer as well - who would think mildew could freeze?) is not that far-fetched - especially when you think it's because someone else has been unclean. I used to use shish-ke-bob skewers to clean the crevices - it needed something pointy.

I can only imagine how long it would have taken if I thought it was someone else's germs and mildewy mold. I know my fridge was "clean" and the mildew was not from our own ickiness, if that makes any sense. So, in this case, I cut her slack. In fact, watching it made me feel better, because all these years I thought I was insane and the only one with a mildewy fridge.
 
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I wouldn't lecture them, but my kids are not allowed in our bedroom either. It actually is not a horrible thing to do. If they need me in the night they know how to get me and if they need me to stay with them at night, I stay in their room.
 
I have had the same exact fridge - it's a nightmare to clean. It's a Subzero and for some bizarre reason, it gets mildewy inside. I could never figure it out, and we ended up replacing it with a newer model that doesn't. I thought I had a bad seal that was allowing the moisture to accumulate. I had deja vu watching her clean the fridge. It was a royal PITA. I am sure that will be the first major appliance she replaces.

I run hot and cold with Kate - but as far as the fridge is concerned - it would take me a long time to clean mine and all the crevices along each shelf and each shelf and basket had like rubber seals that would need to be cleaned and it was my own family's germs. The specks of mildew would gather in the crevices - you'd have to experience it to understand that four hours (and it happened in my freezer as well - who would think mildew could freeze?) is not that far-fetched - especially when you think it's because someone else has been unclean. I used to use shish-ke-bob skewers to clean the crevices - it needed something pointy.

I can only imagine how long it would have taken if I thought it was someone else's germs and mildewy mold. I know my fridge was "clean" and the mildew was not from our own ickiness, if that makes any sense. So, in this case, I cut her slack. In fact, watching it made me feel better, because all these years I thought I was insane and the only one with a mildewy fridge.

And, so, my 1000th post is about a mildewy fridge. That's just great! LOL.:lmao:
 
And, so, my 1000th post is about a mildewy fridge. That's just great! LOL.:lmao:

Congrats on your 1000th post! I have the same range she now has - and if she thinks that fridge is a bugger to clean, wait til she gets to the range....takes me 20 min. just for a wipedown...I wonder if they'll devote an entire episode to that appliance as well.....oh well like I said before, maybe I will learn something from her on how to take better care of it!
 
I'm normally Kate defender but the bedroom speech and the whole thing about the kitchen. I felt bad for the orginial owners.

The previous owners of J&K's new mansion are an OB/GYN Dr that Kate used to be a nurse for. She knows him, personally, so it made it even more nasty of her to complain about non existant dirt.
TLC paid for a house cleaner, so Kate just cleaned for show. She did half a fridge and wiped out the pantry on camera to "make an episode".

Amazing isnt it? Jon and Kate exploit their kids and are unemployed and not very good Christians or decent people and they get a huge house, while their EX friend Beth and her hubby Bob have worked their whole lives and been good honest caring people and Christians and apparently (from rumors) they have lost their house and had to buy a smaller one due to the bad economy.

Well, whatever happens, Beth and Bob will be far richer in their little house than Kate will be in her huge one cause Kate is never satisfied and all the kids will leave her (except for Hannah!)
 
And I'm sure Jon would appreciate the break from being yelled at and insulted constantly.

Seriously? We caught the last half, maybe 3/4 of the show with the house in it, and we LOVED them together! Hubby thought she was being so cute, and I thought Jon was, too. :)

We didn't catch the "stay out of our room" part, but there are *plenty* of families who have that rule. It's mystifying to our family, as we still have a family bedroom, but hubby wasn't allowed in his parent's bedroom ever.

I can't imagine having a house so big you need walkietalkies or a PA system of some sort just to keep track of everyone. Sheesh.

I also think that spending FOUR HOURS on only 1/2 of a fridge is a bit excessive. An hour, hour and a half..I can see that. But FOUR HOURS? What is she doing? Cleaning every single little crack and crevice with her toothbrush?:confused3

A friend of mine was the youngest of 3, and their house was so large, and so well insulated, that you could not hear things from room to room, let alone from the top to the bottom. And it was so large that they had an intercom system. Oh I loved sleepovers at her house.

If she was cleaning mold out of the fridge, it could easily take that long. Just cleaning mold thoroughly out of a window area can take a good 2 hours, let alone that enormous fridge.

She's never seen the show before -- I tried to describe the "problems" people have with the show (product placement, free trips, etc.) I must tell you, when you try to describe it to someone who's never seen the show and has no opinion of Kate, it sounds ridiculous.

I agree. I try to tell hubby about the threads where people dislike Kate for whatever reason, and why people are up in arms about them getting financial assistance for opening their lives up, and he doesn't understand. He thinks she's cute, she's stressed, and she's doing her best to keep things running...he laughs about how she'll stress at Jon, and then get all goopy at how goopy they can be together. And of course they should be paid; we would want to be paid if there were camera-people at our house...why wouldn't we be paid?

And I agree with you about some kids battling...my brother and I weren't supposed to, but we were often at war with each other. I can only imagine how bad it would have been with 4 times as many kids as just the two of us!

Yes, it's from the top of her mouth up - it doesn't move as much. Maybe botox?:confused3

That actually might be right. It might also be why she looked so much less stressed on that show, I kept thinking that. She's got the same stress face that I do (one of the reasons I'm able to be so empathetic towards her, and hubby too) and I've been really wanting that, even though I am very much against it philosophically, because it would make me look the way I feel. Sometimes I even sleep with a stress face, b/c I wake up with the between-the-eye wrinkle even worse than it was the day before. Awful.

I also thought it was arrogant when she was at the sink and looked out the window and said "as far as you can see, it's all mine, it's all mine" as she waved her hands over the land outside. I was very "queen of the kingdom" to me and made her seem ungrateful for how fortunate she has become.

Got the exact opposite impression.

While standing at the sink, she was looking out, thinking of the privacy she can have when the cameras aren't there.

Living on a street like they have been, can you even imagine the lookie loos that must drive by? With property they can have privacy, they can control who sees them at more private times.

I saw her shoulders so tense, and as she said "mine" her shoulders relaxed. She looked tired and tense, but then she relaxed as she said it.

I thought it was lovely. So did hubby. We smiled as she said it.

I only caught the second half (missed the bedroom), but I don't see why everyone is so amazed at four hours of cleaning. You do realize how mold can effect people, right? I would be on my hands and knees scrubbing until every last bit was gone, no matter how long it took me!!!

Me too. I've been very sick twice from unknown mold. Once when I was single and kept getting sick. Roomie and I parted ways for various reasons, and as I packed up my room and opened my window blinds (I was right off the parking lot so those blinds were never opened the entire year) I was horrified to see the mold/mildew I'd been sleeping under. It was a huge "no wonder" moment.

Second time was as we moved from BIL's condo, when I was pregnant. I thought I was sick b/c of being pg, but as we took our dressers away from the wall and saw the black mold on the wall and dresser backs, we realized that wasn't the only thing making me sick.

Mold is awful. And especially with 6 kids who were born early and might continue to have issues b/c of that, I'd need to be CAREFUL. I have a friend who had triplets, and another friend whose baby who arrived before 30 weeks, and I know that they are very careful. Especially the friend with the one child...it was actually an ecclampsia problem so SHE was sick too (had just had an OB appt the day before, where the OB was happy b/c her BP was normal, and he ignored her telling him that she's usually far below normal BP and that was worrisome that she was "normal"), very sick, and her daughter continues to have a weaker system with lung problems. I'm sure that friend would do anything to keep mold out of her house, even if it meant cleaning one thing for 4 hours.


Also, if she wasn't using harsh chemicals, that would be another reason it took a bit longer than others might take. I don't like using harsh chemicals..even Comet can throw me into an asthma attack (and let's not even talk about my near death experience with lemon-scented Comet)...I'm allergic to bleach...so cleaning things thoroughly means arm-power and TIME.


Last night was a SNL spoof of themselves right? They can't be serious.

-Hannah gets her own room because she sleeps in or gets migraine headaches? What about kindergarten in 7 months? One girl throws up, one has night terrors, stress maybe?
-She asked one of the 8 yr old twins to wipe a boy's butt who will be 5 in May?
-She wouldn't wipe either of the dirty butts but called Jon in from outside to do it? Who wipes butts at pre-school?
-She worried about the fridge for four hours when there was "poop" on the floor. They are all obsessed with poop.
-She loudly forbids the kids to ever enter her bedroom with a threat of "severity" and insists Jon back her up. They'll be grown up so soon.
- She "hadn't thought about" the 6000+ square feet of house being challenging to keep up with the kids in?
-She stated at one point that she "knows where none of the kids are, and it is kind of nice." I know where she was coming from, but who says this? Does she not have an un-uttered thought?

On a previous episode didn't they say the one girl got her own room b/c she woke up the other kids? That way she could be awake without bothering the others.

It's totally OK and normal and developmentally fine for a 4 year old to NOT wipe their own bottoms. Some people force their kids to if they feel the need to send their little ones to preschool, other 4 year olds might be OK with it naturally (I was as a child), but for other kids it's NORMAL. My son won't wipe himself, and I was worried, frustrated, and annoyed and went a'researching, and found out that it's normal and fine.

If I was cleaning MOLD out of something, I would NOT BE TOUCHING my child's bottom. I would absolutely call hubby in to do it! Bleah, mold on a bottom.
 
The previous owners of J&K's new mansion are an OB/GYN Dr that Kate used to be a nurse for. She knows him, personally, so it made it even more nasty of her to complain about non existant dirt.
TLC paid for a house cleaner, so Kate just cleaned for show. She did half a fridge and wiped out the pantry on camera to "make an episode".

Amazing isnt it? Jon and Kate exploit their kids and are unemployed and not very good Christians or decent people and they get a huge house, while their EX friend Beth and her hubby Bob have worked their whole lives and been good honest caring people and Christians and apparently (from rumors) they have lost their house and had to buy a smaller one due to the bad economy.

Well, whatever happens, Beth and Bob will be far richer in their little house than Kate will be in her huge one cause Kate is never satisfied and all the kids will leave her (except for Hannah!)


Oh joy!!! We've been wondering where you were, you ray of sunshine you!!
 
Got the exact opposite impression.

While standing at the sink, she was looking out, thinking of the privacy she can have when the cameras aren't there.

Living on a street like they have been, can you even imagine the lookie loos that must drive by? With property they can have privacy, they can control who sees them at more private times.

Actually the house is VERY close to the road. You can see in the garage and in the windows. Which is exactly what Kate wants and why she moved back to an area that HATES them. She moved back to the Reading area so she can SHOW OFF in front of all the people she feels have wronged her. But no one has wronged her, she was a nasty self absorbed drama queen who treated (and still treats) everyone like crap.

Including her children and hubby...

Except for Hannah
 
Ya I don't get the big deal about calling John in anyways...if he was doing anything it was watching kids, and it seemed like they were on a kick for coordinated bowel movements lol. My dh literally won't get off the couch for anything unless I bug him too. I could be knee deep in something and if the baby needed a wiped bum it just wouldn't occur to him to help.

I wish I could keep DS out of our room or it was on a different floor. It's across from his room and slowly but surely he'll move all his crap into our room if we don't watch it. Drives me nuts! Nothing kills the mood more than rolling onto a hot wheels.

I also don't get why people are so uppity about them not working. If they can turn that show into their income good for them! I enjoy watching them and I'm sure their kids are happy to have their parents around. At my son's preschool there were only about 10 kids and they had two adults around. They've got 8 kids in that house I don't think it's such a stretch that they are both there if they have the income from their show. The thing that gets me is nobody complains about SAHMs of one or two kids but somehow they are up for the critisizing because they are both home but they have 4 times the kids of an average family.
 
I was wondering if anyone knows what city they're in. Not that I'm trying to stalk anyone, I just like geographical kind of things, I knew they used to live in Elizabethtown but I am curious how far they moved away....

Thanks all!




The Roloffs live by ME!!! So that's kind of neat-o, we share the same grocery store and I've seen Amy, Zach and Jeremy around town and at my work.
 
On a previous episode didn't they say the one girl got her own room b/c she woke up the other kids? That way she could be awake without bothering the others.

It was a differant daughter thats why people are surprised that it ended up being Hannah. Some people have said from the beginning that Hannah is Kate's favorite.
 
So here's my opinion:

Cleaning the fridge for 4 hours is fine. I probably too 1.5 hours a few weeks ago and my fridge is smaller and doesn't have mold in it

The speech about the bedroom was over the top, but I think the rule is appropriate. When DBF and I bought our house and his DF and DB moved it, I insisted that OUR bedroom not become another playroom. I truly hated that in the other places that he lived, but now this was our house and I wanted one place where I was guarenteed privacy. His brother knows that even if the door is wide open, he has to stop and the door and ask to come it. The only battle DBF and I are still having is when his friends come over and follow him in sometimes. It drives me crazy! I am 32 and have only been in my BFF's parent's bedroom 2-3 times in the past 18 years, and one of those times it was because they had built a new hose and I was getting a general tour of it!

I do wonder how John will handle that yard though. We have 1.5 acres and it is tough to manage it sometimes.
 
It was a differant daughter thats why people are surprised that it ended up being Hannah. Some people have said from the beginning that Hannah is Kate's favorite.

I was kind of wondering about that myself because they had said Alexis would go around and wake everyone up at like 3-4 in the morning so they let/forced her sleep in the basement.

I am just assuming now that she grew out of that and they had three bedrooms available for the little kids. We don't know the whole story though... maybe Leah and Hannah aren't so buddy-buddy anymore or she just chose Hannah because the boys like to stay together and she wanted to pick one of the girls.... what that, she picks the one that would benefit most of the three.

:confused3 It's not really fair for us to judge on many of the things she does, especially about this though.
 
It was a differant daughter thats why people are surprised that it ended up being Hannah. Some people have said from the beginning that Hannah is Kate's favorite.


On a previous episode they had said it was going to be Alexis getting her own room, but apparently they switched it to Hannah.
 
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