Jon and Kate Plus 8 official Thread, Part 2!!

[longstangetrip]

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Madge- Did you see this guy when you saw Kate? He seems to be in most every picture I see of her signing or speaking. Most people's accounts are similar to yours. There is a personal blog called Girls in White Dresses with a nearly identical experience. Kate must be consistent at least!

 

[longstangetrip]

You wrote a few simple words yet they said so much. Jon and Kate really have never supported their whole family since the tups were born. We all think of going to work, paying bills, saving and planning for WDW vacations; yet these are things the Gosselin's haven't experienced and that in it's profound simplicity is unimaginable and very sad to me.

Rumor has it Jon's dad partially supported them when he was alive, and continued to contribute after his passing. I'm not sure all the entitlement started after the tups were born. Jon is said to have been raised a spoiled, rich kid. I did not grow up with him; these are only things I have read.

 

[Grumpy's Gal]

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Madge- Did you see this guy when you saw Kate? He seems to be in most every picture I see of her signing or speaking. Most people's accounts are similar to yours. There is a personal blog called Girls in White Dresses with a nearly identical experience. Kate must be consistent at least!

who is this guy?

 

[madge]

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Madge- Did you see this guy when you saw Kate? He seems to be in most every picture I see of her signing or speaking. Most people's accounts are similar to yours. There is a personal blog called Girls in White Dresses with a nearly identical experience. Kate must be consistent at least!

I didn't see that guy -- he must have been behind the scenes at the church. I did hear that she was with a couple of people at Ruby Tuesday and Target, people no one recognized (it's a small town, if they were local .. someone would have known who they were). It's possible that he was with her there.

now that some time has passed? I've talked to several people that went or knew people that went to see Kate. The church itself continues to get rave reviews, which is awesome. I've only heard one person that had anything positive to say about Kate's speech. One. (I'm sure there were others that enjoyed it, I just think they're few and far between) She's been and gone without leaving a very good impression on the people that saw her.

March Madness started in full swing the next week .. that's where everyone's attention is these days

 

[madge]

who is this guy?

my guess is that he's the bodyguard.

 

[bjgrazi]

my guess is that he's the bodyguard.

Naaa, it's her new lover. Since Jon went to live with Mommy she replaced him.

 

[smschex]

Naaa, it's her new lover. Since Jon went to live with Mommy she replaced him.

The guy in the picture doesn't look tough enough for that.

 

[barkley]

You wrote a few simple words yet they said so much. Jon and Kate really have never supported their whole family since the tups were born. We all think of going to work, paying bills, saving and planning for WDW vacations; yet these are things the Gosselin's haven't experienced and that in it's profound simplicity is unimaginable and very sad to me.

The things most of us do regularly and with almost no thought because they're such routine tasks, the Gosselin's have never experienced. Since the sextuplets were brought home their lives have been 'abnormal'. Jon didn't work, they had donations rolling in like crazy, volunteers constantly in the house, and it's grown into multi-year tv contracts for the family. They have never experienced the joys of parenting on their own - they've always had help (or interference depending on how you view the show). Their vacations have been courtesy of the show as have theme park visits, shopping, etc, even their appearance has to look a specific way, and their is time not their own. But, they made the choice to exchange life as most of us experience it for life in a reality tv show.

I love my life. I love doing things FOR and with my family. I think the Gosselin's have robbed their family of the experiences we all cherish in exchange for an intrusive television show. IMO, I think they're wondering if their choices have been worth losing the everyday lifestyle we take for granted. I wouldn't trade my life to be in a reality tv show, to be critiqued, photographed, always surrounded by too many people. I'll take my family, friends, house, and lifestyle anyday over theirs and the choices they've made for themselves and their children.

you raise the same thoughts i've often held. we've learned so much about how children develop their sense of self and their place in the world by virtue of their exposure/experiences with their same sex parent. i've often wondered what effect living their lifestyle will have on those little ones when they get to be adults. the twins might remember the days when their parents were working traditional jobs so they have some sense of what "the norm" is for most families-and what they will be looking at when they become adults-the little ones have never been exposed to it. it's one thing to hear your parents bickering, it's another when it's taped and rebroadcast over and over (and i seem to remember j&k saying that the kids watch the dvds of the episodes over and over). if they watch those episodes they are also hearing the 'couch talk' which for me includes adult conversations that kids of that age just don't need to be exposed to (a little child does not need to hear over and over that despite their birth being a 'multiple blessing', that it put the family in financial peril, caused their dad to be fired from his job, caused severing of familial ties...), they don't need to hear one or both parents berating the parenting skills, habits or personal idiosyncracies of the other, and they certainly don't need to hear at that tender age about dad's issues with mom's career "taking off". a man (or a woman) may feel this way about their spouse but i highly doubt they openly discuss it (or tape discussions for repeated viewings) around their young children

i just wonder what these little ones will be like as young adults. will they presume that just by living thier lives or lecturing people about it they will be provided for in the manner they are now? that by virtue of being a sextuplet they are entitled to certain privledges or allowances in behaviour? it seems that they've led a very skewed life as compared to what most of us would consider the norm. i pray that at some point the parents realize that enough is enough and their can be a far greater value to foregoing the trips and vacations and "toys" (talking adult not kids ) in favor of a simpler lifestyle which in the long run will provide those little ones with the tools they will need to be productive, independant and well adjusted adults.

 

[rileyroosmom]

I saw Kate speak at a church here in Roswell Georgia last night.

The church was packed, about 2,000 people who all loved Kate. Constant flashes going off due to constant picture taking of her. She spoke for about 45 minutes, very rehearsed and monotone. She spoke only of the time she was pregnant with the sextuplets till about their first week of life, just stuff everyone knew and stuff from the Multiple Blessings book. I was not impressed at all really. She made a comment that John was home with the kids. She'd been gone a long time and got somewhat teary eyed because she missed them so much. She said it was a good thing John wasn't there because he'd only talk about 5 minutes and that would be it. She was very skinny, very tan. She was in white so maybe that showed the tan off more? Her hair was shaved up half her head in the back and the back stood up about an inch and half. She had very noticeable chunky stripes. She did answer questions, but they were from preselected people that were written out and approved. The pastor read them out loud. The gray haired gentlemen spoken about in the previous posts was there. He brought her on and off the stage and stood to the side and listened to her speak. Barnes and Nobles brought her book there for an autograph signing, which I did not do.

Very underwhelmed by the whole experience. I've watched the show from the beginning and have always enjoyed it, but as others have said, it is getting harder to watch due to her meanness. I don't know what/if she was paid. The seats were $15 on the floor and $5 for the balcony seats.

 

[OhMari]

I saw Kate speak at a church here in Roswell Georgia last night.

The church was packed, about 2,000 people who all loved Kate. Constant flashes going off due to constant picture taking of her. She spoke for about 45 minutes, very rehearsed and monotone. She spoke only of the time she was pregnant with the sextuplets till about their first week of life, just stuff everyone knew and stuff from the Multiple Blessings book. I was not impressed at all really. She made a comment that John was home with the kids. She'd been gone a long time and got somewhat teary eyed because she missed them so much. She said it was a good thing John wasn't there because he'd only talk about 5 minutes and that would be it. She was very skinny, very tan. She was in white so maybe that showed the tan off more? Her hair was shaved up half her head in the back and the back stood up about an inch and half. She had very noticeable chunky stripes. She did answer questions, but they were from preselected people that were written out and approved. The pastor read them out loud. The gray haired gentlemen spoken about in the previous posts was there. He brought her on and off the stage and stood to the side and listened to her speak. Barnes and Nobles brought her book there for an autograph signing, which I did not do.

Very underwhelmed by the whole experience. I've watched the show from the beginning and have always enjoyed it, but as others have said, it is getting harder to watch due to her meanness. I don't know what/if she was paid. The seats were $15 on the floor and $5 for the balcony seats.

Hey, thanks for the report.
You don't think she has been on the road for 2 weeks now. What was the date that Madge saw her in KY?

 

[madge]

I saw Kate speak at a church here in Roswell Georgia last night.

The church was packed, about 2,000 people who all loved Kate. Constant flashes going off due to constant picture taking of her.

that's one difference from the church engagement here -- the only thing we were asked was no flash photography. they repeated that request 2 or 3 times.

She spoke for about 45 minutes, very rehearsed and monotone. She spoke only of the time she was pregnant with the sextuplets till about their first week of life, just stuff everyone knew and stuff from the Multiple Blessings book. I was not impressed at all really. She made a comment that John was home with the kids. She'd been gone a long time and got somewhat teary eyed because she missed them so much. She said it was a good thing John wasn't there because he'd only talk about 5 minutes and that would be it. She was very skinny, very tan. She was in white so maybe that showed the tan off more? Her hair was shaved up half her head in the back and the back stood up about an inch and half. She had very noticeable chunky stripes.

that all sounds eerily similar to the speech here ... she must have had a hair cut/color sometime between March 8 and now, though.

Very underwhelmed by the whole experience. I've watched the show from the beginning and have always enjoyed it, but as others have said, it is getting harder to watch due to her meanness. I don't know what/if she was paid. The seats were $15 on the floor and $5 for the balcony seats.

seems to be the theme of these engagements .. people underwhelmed by the whole thing.

was Kate the only attraction? or was there a church service or something in addition to her speech?

 

[madge]

Hey, thanks for the report.
You don't think she has been on the road for 2 weeks now. What was the date that Madge saw her in KY?

she was here March 8.

did I tell you all she drove herself around town in a spiffy SUV?

 

[TxAnn]

I've noticed a few comments on here about the Duggars. Is there a thread on this site discussing the Duggars like this J&K thread or the Little People thread?

Thanks!

 

[Eeyore'sthebest]

I have a question about how the kids are getting paid. Isn't there a law that a certain percentage of a child's income must be held in trust? I think this was due to the Little Rascals of the 50s if I recall that correctly.

I wonder if each child has a trust fund set up for them. Not that it's any of my business, but I'm just be nosey. :lmao

 

[bbsak]

I have a question about how the kids are getting paid. Isn't there a law that a certain percentage of a child's income must be held in trust? I think this was due to the Little Rascals of the 50s if I recall that correctly.
I wonder if each child has a trust fund set up for them. Not that it's any of my business, but I'm just be nosey.

Unfortunately, there are NO laws protecting children in reality television in PA. Nothing to protect their earnings, the conditions under which they work, no one on location for educational purposes, no one on location to advocate for them. There are a few states that have enacted laws that govern children in reality tv, but PA isn't one of them. The issue of no protection for these children is what has upset most people about the show - IMO. It's my reason anyway.

While I'd hope the Gosselin's have set up trusts for each child, funded college funds, and saved for the children's futures, there is nothing that says it's required and they actually have a legal (though not ethical or moral) right to spend every cent the children have made.

 

[Eeyore'sthebest]

Unfortunately, there are NO laws protecting children in reality television in PA. Nothing to protect their earnings, the conditions under which they work, no one on location for educational purposes, no one on location to advocate for them. There are a few states that have enacted laws that govern children in reality tv, but PA isn't one of them. The issue of no protection for these children is what has upset most people about the show - IMO. It's my reason anyway.

While I'd hope the Gosselin's have set up trusts for each child, funded college funds, and saved for the children's futures, there is nothing that says it's required and they actually have a legal (though not ethical or moral) right to spend every cent the children have made.

Wow! That's very surprising and saddening. I at least thought that the kids had some sort of fund set up for them as a result of them appearing on the show.

 

[newtodis]

I saw Kate speak at a church here in Roswell Georgia last night.

The church was packed, about 2,000 people who all loved Kate. Constant flashes going off due to constant picture taking of her. She spoke for about 45 minutes, very rehearsed and monotone. She spoke only of the time she was pregnant with the sextuplets till about their first week of life, just stuff everyone knew and stuff from the Multiple Blessings book. I was not impressed at all really. She made a comment that John was home with the kids. She'd been gone a long time and got somewhat teary eyed because she missed them so much. She said it was a good thing John wasn't there because he'd only talk about 5 minutes and that would be it. She was very skinny, very tan. She was in white so maybe that showed the tan off more? Her hair was shaved up half her head in the back and the back stood up about an inch and half. She had very noticeable chunky stripes. She did answer questions, but they were from preselected people that were written out and approved. The pastor read them out loud. The gray haired gentlemen spoken about in the previous posts was there. He brought her on and off the stage and stood to the side and listened to her speak. Barnes and Nobles brought her book there for an autograph signing, which I did not do.

Very underwhelmed by the whole experience. I've watched the show from the beginning and have always enjoyed it, but as others have said, it is getting harder to watch due to her meanness. I don't know what/if she was paid. The seats were $15 on the floor and $5 for the balcony seats.

Thanks for the report! I'm sorry to hear that it wasn't very impressive....although that seems to be common unfortunetly. If they sold half of the seats at $15, that's $15,000 and the other half would be another $5,000....that's a lot of money to pull in for one event but if they were one of the ones to pay the "new", reportedly $25,000 fees to have her come, they didn't even cover her costs to be there let alone the travel expenses, promotion, anything like that. That's what is sad.

 

[DznyLvr2005]

I watch the show. If you watch really early episodes, everyone is so different. Now that they are 'rich' and get everything handed to them, they are very different. Especially Kate. She seems very high and mighly now. When they moved into the new house..."This is all mine, so much land..." or when they went back to clean out the old house "oh my, how did I ever live in such a small house, oh it's just horrible, ugh.." Etc.. etc... Her comments are so nasty. All the time! Not one nice thing comes out of her mouth lately.
Remember when one of her kids went to the bathroom in the new house out of her reach and she refused to wipe the kids butt!! She left him up there beacuse he didn't go to the bathroom down stairs!!! WHAT?!?! And the dogs... They only got the dogs beause I'm sure TLC paid for them and is probably paying for food, training and just got them for entertainment purposes for the show. It's not fair to the dogs. Kate obviously didn't want them.
Also they bought the new house before they even sold the old house, so either they got the new house for free, or they are so loaded now that they were able to get 2 houses at once. Kate just seems all into herself now. She's always "on business trips" too.
Poor John... He's always so sad.
I still will watch the show because I've been watching from the beginning, but I just wish John would just stick up for himself!!!

 

[Tinker74]

Everyone ready for the big finale tonight!!.....Although I have a horrible feeling the build up is to do with the kids getting booed at the harlem globetrotters......Terrible if this really happened.

I doubt its going to be anything to do with their marriage...even if they are going through a rough spot..i firmly believe they will never split..they do love each other and their family..

 

[OhMari]

Hey everyone.
We have to be careful with this thread.
We can continue it, but we cannot discuss Jon and Kate's religious beliefs any longer.
We can mention that they do talks at various churches,
but we cannot discuss their religious beliefs any longer.
It is a new DIS guidelines, in case anyone did not see the update this weekend.

I've noticed a few comments on here about the Duggars. Is there a thread on this site discussing the Duggars like this J&K thread or the Little People thread?

Thanks!

There is a Little People thread, I'll try to find it.
I love this show too.