Jon and Kate Plus 8 official Thread, Part 2!!

[longstangetrip]

If you cannot handle people with differing opinions SKIP THIS THREAD!!!

 

[madge]

never mind. LOL

 

[mla1977]

I think everyone should take a step and think about how everyone is acting. We don't need to have this thread shut down because people start attacking each other.

 

[disneychrista]

I don't think it would be hard to fill that big house with furniture when Lane gives it to you and delivers it.

And we know for sure that this happened/is happening? I know they get a lot of things for free / in exchange for advertising but I have not seen a Lane truck at their house (during a show).

 

[madge]

I think everyone should take a step and think about how everyone is acting. We don't need to have this thread shut down because people start attacking each other.

I agree, which is why I edited my post .. and the DIS is still acting wonky, so I had to edit it twice. LOL.

it's not worth points or getting the thread locked.

 

[MonkeyDishwasher]

If everyone shared the same opinion on every topic, discussion boards would be useless as would common human interaction. The great thing about people having (and being allowed to express) their own opinions is that conversation is always growing and changing, as do thoughts and opinions. Some people see different things in the same episodes, and want to share what they've seen or deciphered, and sometimes other people don't see it, or see it sompletely differently.

Conversation and differing ideas/opinions enable people to see things from another perspective and express their different views, sometimes enlightening someone who wouldn't have seen that otherwise.

Some people see nothing wrong with the way J&K interact with one another, and other people see the deterioration of a relationship. It's not the viewers' fault that J&K have chosen to put their lives on a national pedestal for anybody to watch or critique, and that's where having message boards to allow both sides of the coin to chat or discuss each episode or situation come into play.

There are pro- and con- specific J&K boards that focus on each side, and this particular thread/discussion has been wonderful because both sides are able to express their thoughts without being faulted for their opinions. It has been civil, and there is no need to tell anybody that their opinion is invalid because they might have a less than ideal opinion of the show, the couple or their children.

...dang I'm wordy today...

 

[Maggimus]

Did you read the new rules? No talk about religion and I would think that includes judging peoples actions that you think are ungodly.

I edited my post to remove God and talk about Sunday vs Monday. However, I never broke any rules in the first place. That was not the topic of discussion nor the topic of this thread. It wasnt even religious discussion- it was simply noting what a poster had said about their position at work vs their actions. Would you go a bank and have nonchalant discussion about how you or many of your friends are thieves. Similar circumstance. It's whats known as a more and what isnt, irony at it's best. I tamed what I wrote down not to be so blunt. We can still note the obvious without getting out of hand in a religious discussion. I even stated "lets not get off on that" meaning, this isnt ABOUT THAT, its about the way this thread is going...

Personally, I dont see the other side. I don't see very many saying that Aidans glasses suit him well, or Kate is a great organizer. Or that the last show had some super cute parts. I see "not good enough", "not happy enough", "not nice enough", etc, etc..

 

[longstangetrip]

And we know for sure that this happened/is happening? I know they get a lot of things for free / in exchange for advertising but I have not seen a Lane truck at their house (during a show).

http://laneentertainment.com/jon_kate.cfm

That is hysterical. In the last couple of pages we can't believe only the things we see on the show to be true, and we also have to believe just what we actually see on the show to be true. Wow.

 

[madge]

I edited my post to remove God and talk about Sunday vs Monday. However, I never broke any rules in the first place. That was not the topic of discussion nor the topic of this thread. It wasnt even religious discussion- it was simply noting what a poster had said about their position at work vs their actions. Would you go a bank and have nonchalant discussion about how you or many of your friends are thieves. Similar circumstance. It's whats known as a more and what isnt, irony at it's best. I tamed what I wrote down not to be so blunt. We can still note the obvious without getting out of hand in a religious discussion. I even stated "lets not get off on that" meaning, this isnt ABOUT religion, its about the way this thread is going...

I think you might be confusing/combining a couple of posters? I just realized that .. if you're talking about me --and my decision to remove my comments about seeing Kate at a local church? I am a stay at home mom, I am not employed by anyone other than my family. LOL. TotalSnowWhite works for a church preschool, and is usually a JK8 supporter.

Personally, I dont see the other side. I don't see very many saying that Aidans glasses suit him well, or Kate is a great organizer. Or that the last show had some super cute parts. I see "not good enough", "not happy enough", "not nice enough", etc, etc..

You're entitled to your opinion and I'm entitled to mine. I've seen Kate in person .. and have talked to people who saw her around town, attended the book signing, and volunteered for the event. I shared my experience and opinion of the day. It is what it is. I don't know what else to say.

 

[disneychrista]

That is hysterical. In the last co...that is shown, isn't always the entire truth.

 

[Anjelica]

http://laneentertainment.com/jon_kate.cfm

I've watched all he new episodes with the exception of the last one (got it on DVR) but I don't recall them touting Lane Furnishings so I just assumed they ordered/paid for it themselves. I looked at the link you provided and it doesn't say they gave them furniture but I wonder if they got a big discount or something so they could post that information.

I just figured had they been 100% comped with all the furniture by Lane Furnishings that they would have showed the truck delivering it with their name, etc.

 

[phorsenuf]

I AGREE!

The people who say you should skip the thread are the people who are being negative! They want to continue their "lets gripe and whine" about Kate, how she talks at events, how she handles her family, etc. Im surprised a MOD is allowing this as well. If we were trash talking someone who is a member of this board, it wouldn't get this far would it? And to think some of the regulars on this thread hold jobs within a church. Thats a whole other thread in itself. I know some of you don't want the 'host churches' thinking that you think negative things about them-- but gosh why say things about other people. Do you go to work and talk about other people like that? . Lets not get off on that though-- this thread is just plain mean. I see VERY little good or mediocre comments but mainly negativity.

You all are aloud your opinions, as negative and harsh as they are.... so allow those of us (and there are QUITE a few of us) who think you have nothing better to do that sit at your computer and bash someone you dont even know, to have ours! And I shouldn't get any heat over this post... considering the things you've said about Kate are and the finger pointing is far far far beyond what anyone has even halfway said about this thread. Have we forgotten that these are REAL LIVES, and it isnt a movie on TV. These people (And those "precious kids" that you all say you love) will be hurt by all of this. It doesn't matter a lick what happens elsewhere and on other boards, it matters whats happening here.

I edited my post to remove God and talk about Sunday vs Monday. However, I never broke any rules in the first place. That was not the topic of discussion nor the topic of this thread. It wasnt even religious discussion- it was simply noting what a poster had said about their position at work vs their actions. Would you go a bank and have nonchalant discussion about how you or many of your friends are thieves. Similar circumstance. It's whats known as a more and what isnt, irony at it's best. I tamed what I wrote down not to be so blunt. We can still note the obvious without getting out of hand in a religious discussion. I even stated "lets not get off on that" meaning, this isnt ABOUT THAT, its about the way this thread is going...

Personally, I dont see the other side. I don't see very many saying that Aidans glasses suit him well, or Kate is a great organizer. Or that the last show had some super cute parts. I see "not good enough", "not happy enough", "not nice enough", etc, etc..

My goodness chill out. It's a tv show. Yes, they are real people but you put yourself out there you take the heat. I don't know why you feel the need to go off on people here. They have their opinion, you have yours. It seems to me they are being respectful to you, perhaps you should return the sentiment.

 

[madge]

I know a lot of things happen on the show. And the show doesn't show everything. And everything that is shown, isn't always the entire truth.

and really, that's all you have to say about Jon & Kate Plus 8. LOL.

 

[Maggimus]

My goodness chill out. It's a tv show. Yes, they are real people but you put yourself out there you take the heat. I don't know why you feel the need to go off on people here. They have their opinion, you have yours. It seems to me they are being respectful to you, perhaps you should return the sentiment.

I appologize, again. You cannot determine the tone used in wording on the internet. I never was disrespectful to anyone. I just stated that I never broke any rules, hence the explanation. And then that Id like to see more positive come out of this thread, hence, not seeing the other side shown (as stated). I never "went off" on anyone.

 

[HonnyDipp]

This is a harsh tread!
I have my DVR set to record tonight show. Whats happening on the show tonight?

 

[Maggimus]

This is a harsh tread!
I have my DVR set to record tonight show. Whats happening on the show tonight?

Hello! This is from the TLC website...

9:00 pm

(30 minutes) Jon & Kate Plus 8
B-Ball & More
TV-G

The Gosselin family goes to see the Harlem Globetrotters, but there's more in store than just amazing basketball!
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9:30 pm

(30 minutes) Jon & Kate Plus 8
Family Outing
TV-G

The Gosselin clan heads to a unique museum where the kids learn and explore through tactile exhibits designed for touching. It's a day of feel good fun for the whole family!

 

[mla1977]

Hello! This is from the TLC website...

9:00 pm

(30 minutes) Jon & Kate Plus 8
B-Ball & More
TV-G

The Gosselin family goes to see the Harlem Globetrotters, but there's more in store than just amazing basketball!
--------------------------------------------
9:30 pm

(30 minutes) Jon & Kate Plus 8
Family Outing
TV-G

The Gosselin clan heads to a unique museum where the kids learn and explore through tactile exhibits designed for touching. It's a day of feel good fun for the whole family!

The Globetrotters were in Philly just 2 weeks ago. (I know I was in WDW that weekend).

There is a great children's museum in Philly called the Please Touch Museum. I believe they just relocated or rehabed the museum recently.

 

[disneychrista]

and really, that's all you have to say about Jon & Kate Plus 8. LOL.

And pretty much any other "reality" show. Take a day, a few days, a week and condense it to the most "marketable" 22 - 44 minutes.

 

[newtodis]

I think everyone should take a step and think about how everyone is acting. We don't need to have this thread shut down because people start attacking each other.

Totally agree - I love this thread - differing views and all and would be lost without you!

never mind. LOL

I have to say that I just love when you edit your comments...always makes me smile!

If everyone shared the same opinion on every topic, discussion boards would be useless as would common human interaction. The great thing about people having (and being allowed to express) their own opinions is that conversation is always growing and changing, as do thoughts and opinions. Some people see different things in the same episodes, and want to share what they've seen or deciphered, and sometimes other people don't see it, or see it sompletely differently.

Conversation and differing ideas/opinions enable people to see things from another perspective and express their different views, sometimes enlightening someone who wouldn't have seen that otherwise.

Some people see nothing wrong with the way J&K interact with one another, and other people see the deterioration of a relationship. It's not the viewers' fault that J&K have chosen to put their lives on a national pedestal for anybody to watch or critique, and that's where having message boards to allow both sides of the coin to chat or discuss each episode or situation come into play.

There are pro- and con- specific J&K boards that focus on each side, and this particular thread/discussion has been wonderful because both sides are able to express their thoughts without being faulted for their opinions. It has been civil, and there is no need to tell anybody that their opinion is invalid because they might have a less than ideal opinion of the show, the couple or their children.

...dang I'm wordy today...

I think this was said very well - good job wordy or not!

Personally, I dont see the other side. I don't see very many saying that Aidans glasses suit him well, or Kate is a great organizer. Or that the last show had some super cute parts. I see "not good enough", "not happy enough", "not nice enough", etc, etc..

If the show focused more on Kate's organizational skills, I personally would watch and DVR that show to rewatch! This is why I initially started watching the show. I wanted to learn from J&K but the show's taken a different turn. I'd love to see how she packed a diaper bag for all those kids, packed the van for everyone, how many suitcases/how they packed for Disney (I know they showed some of this - I seem to recall a show where they were talking about the number of suitcases). I would love to have learned more about organizing the garage (this is a personal stuggle for me since my boys seem to have huge toys and they flow all over the place!) and other places in my house. Even how she keeps her schedule together - I know they used to show her calendar but I don't recall her ever explaining it. I have a hard time with my nanny, two boys, husband and myself - I'd love to learn more tips from someone whos life appears to be much busier than mine.

Now there have been some instances where people have mentioned one of the kids did something great or someone liked something one of them did ( I specifically recall a couple of people heading to Ikea to get things Kate had purchased because they were so impressed with it from the show) or said or something. For me, it's hard for me to keep the kids straight to comment on who did/said something cute (I call my own two by the wrong name - I'm just really bad with names I guess!).

I agree that some people are extremely negative but that's what you get in life. Some people never meet anyone who meets their standards. Then there are people who are more middle of the road (I think I fall into this group personally) who have their negative moments but generally are just trying to learn more about this family to see what all the negativety is about and where people are getting all this misinformation and what the "real" story is; going on making general comments about shows, sightings, ect. Then there are people who genuinely (sp?) adore the family and will find no fault with them. I presume these are those people who just watch the show and don't spend time on line looking into the family to learn any more about them. Again, that's just how I see them. Because we have all of those different groups here, you'll always have different opinions. It always helps to have material to support your claim as the "regulars" here will certainly ask for links, stories, quotes, something to back up claims - both good or bad. It's more than just an "idle gossip" thread in my eyes as many of those who post here have actually done research or sharing their personal thoughts and feelings which couldn't have any supporting evidence.

I hope some of that rambling makes sense. I guess basically I'm trying to say every person sees things differently - we can both look at the same picture and think two different things based on our moods, backgrounds, previous experiences, whatever. That's life and it's what helps to make us stronger, more educated people in the end.

 

[madge]

I have to say that I just love when you edit your comments...always makes me smile!

I wasn't as creative today

I wish there was a way to delete my own comment. Actually, what I need to do is type out my reply and then just close the window without actually posting it.