John Kerry for President!

[KarenC]

Originally posted by shortbun
My neighbors set off fireworks and people were out clanging
pots like they did on the Millennium New Years! Around here
the slogan is "Hope, NOT FEAR!"

Go Johnny Go!

That is GREAT news to hear from Ohio!!!!

 

[KarenC]

Originally posted by Pugdog007
I seriously thought this thread would be, "Wow he did not do well... what now?"

We must have been watching a different show. All of the speakers prior to him (that were televised) put him to shame.

Definately not a polished speaker.

And the current president is?

 

[BedKnobbery2]

Originally posted by Elwood Blues
Huh?????

The terrorists what peace???? NO WAY!

They want PIECES of you and me to be splattered all over.

So are really saying that if Kerry is elected that the influx of new terrorists will cease because Kerry won't piss them off by killing the existing terrorists?

Um....I realize that this was the spiel you were trying to find the opportunity to spout waaaaaay back when you originally asked the question, but you kinda jumped the gun there, cowboy. Re-read through the thread. Or actually, I can sum up for you: They said they want Bush because they >don't< want peace, which they believe the democrats can bring about more effectively. You remember peace, don't you? It's when people aren't trying to kill us. It's actually kinda nifty....you might even enjoy it!

 

[wvrevy]

Originally posted by richiebaseball

Originally posted by wvrevy
Kerry and Edwards are running a positive campaign/QUOTE]


Speaking of calling someone out, I can't decide if you have actually convinced yourself of this, are naive, or are just lying.

Richard

There's definite similarity between John Kerry's campaign commercials and Dubya's.....After the phrase "I approve this message", both commercials begin with the same two words: John Kerry

There's a difference in comparing yourself favorably to your opponent and spending 24/7 trying to tear down that opponent. Kerry and Edwards have done quite a bit of the former, while the president's shills do nothing but the latter.

 

[richiebaseball]

For the most part the entire convention was very positive, very upbeat. The Democrats realize they can't talk about unity while continuing to alienate half the country.

But it still reminds me of the long road trip to Grandma's with the kids. There's so much fighting and bickering going on in that back seat but when we're at Grandma's, they're perfect angels.
But I know eventually the visit will be over and we'll have that same ride back home. More fighting and more bickering until, finally and mercifully, the trip will be over.

I expect about the same from the Republican convention.

And add another CSPAN fan.

Just one mans' opinion.

Richard

 

[jrydberg]

As to the substance of Kerry's speech, I think he delivered it fairly well, though I was personally hoping for a bit more than the typical convention fare (I'm sure the Republicans will have their fair share of that soon enough). The speech itself seemed VERY general -- a lot of "I'm for a strong America, a strong economy"... bold stance there -- and had quite a bit of negativity thrown in. Mind you, if Kerry wants to get elected he needs to highlight the failings of the Bush administration, so I don't blame him for that. Just smart politics.

However, it was a little... disappointing to hear him talk about taking the high road and then in his next breath start on the attack.

All in all, I think Kerry did a pretty good job with the speech. It certainly won't hurt him. Personally, I would've liked to have seen more, but I think I can say that about any convention speech

 

[Elwood Blues]

Originally posted by faithinkarma
I disagree.... I think when most people quote columnists they are trying to "legitimize" their own opinion rather than simply state their own opinion. Certainly when I quote others I am trying to say that I do not stand alone in my opinion. But after watching the absolutely pitiful performance of the pundits during the convention I have come to realize I know at least as much as any of those jerks do. And I am very clear about my motives, unlike columnists who have who knows what axe to grind.

But at least you did attribute the quote.

Disagree with what? His record in the Senate?

 

[peachgirl]

Originally posted by wvrevy
You know what...I originally posted a counter attack to this nonsense, but I'm going to delete it. Let the right show themselves for the fear-mongering wannabe's that they are. Kerry and Edwards are running a positive campaign, let the American people see what the Repugnicans are really like.

I couldn't agree more. The fear of losing this election is really bringing out their true colors. They're doing a better job of showing how little they have to run on regarding issues than I ever could.

 

[Galahad]

It's when people aren't trying to kill us.

And they are going to stop trying to kill us with a new President?

 

[faithinkarma]

Originally posted by Elwood Blues
Disagree with what? His record in the Senate?

I disagreed with the reason people quote columnists.

 

[Galahad]

Originally posted by faithinkarma
I disagreed with the reason people quote columnists.

It is a frequently made admonition that everybody should see Michael Moore's movie before voting. Moore himself has called it an "op/ed" piece. It has been cited many times in these threads. How is that significantly different that quoting a columnist to support your argument. If one quoted a columnist in the absence of making an argument at all (something that has been practiced here from time to time ) then I'd agree.

 

[septbride2002]

Last night John Kerry rushed through his 55 minute speech accepting the Democratic Party's nomination for president of the United States. He kicked off his address by saluting the crowd and saying "I'm John Kerry, and I'm reporting for duty." So there you go. He sure didn't wait long to bring up his military service. And why not? What else does he have? Is he going to brag about his National Journal rating as the most liberal member of the U.S. Senate?

Am I the only one laughing at this? Wasn't it the Republicans that use to scream from the top of their lungs that Clinton was a draft dodger and never served in the army. And then when McCain was running they all talked about his great military service. Now that it is a Democrat with the military service the Republicans are saying - who cares? Talk about flip-flopping .

I did not see the entire speech last night - however what I did see was really good. Public speaking is not a fun thing to do and I admire anyone that can get up and do it. However all this criticism on Kerry is hard to take when our current President stutters constantly and can't tell the difference between FETUS and FECIES. (I realize my spelling is awful so if any of these words are spelled wrong I apologize )

~Amanda

 

[Elwood Blues]

Originally posted by BedKnobbery2
Um....I realize that this was the spiel you were trying to find the opportunity to spout waaaaaay back when you originally asked the question, but you kinda jumped the gun there, cowboy. Re-read through the thread. Or actually, I can sum up for you: They said they want Bush because they >don't< want peace, which they believe the democrats can bring about more effectively. You remember peace, don't you? It's when people aren't trying to kill us. It's actually kinda nifty....you might even enjoy it!

I'll remind you of this (if I can) in a few years if Kerry is elected and we are attacked here on our soil again.

K?

 

[wvrevy]

Originally posted by jrydberg
As to the substance of Kerry's speech, I think he delivered it fairly well, though I was personally hoping for a bit more than the typical convention fare (I'm sure the Republicans will have their fair share of that soon enough). The speech itself seemed VERY general -- a lot of "I'm for a strong America, a strong economy"... bold stance there -- and had quite a bit of negativity thrown in. Mind you, if Kerry wants to get elected he needs to highlight the failings of the Bush administration, so I don't blame him for that. Just smart politics.

However, it was a little... disappointing to hear him talk about taking the high road and then in his next breath start on the attack.

All in all, I think Kerry did a pretty good job with the speech. It certainly won't hurt him. Personally, I would've liked to have seen more, but I think I can say that about any convention speech

JMO, but I don't really think that a convention speech is the right place for the "meat" of "how are we going to do this"...It's a piece of rhetoric, and as such should be inspiring...and this speech was a home run in that respect.

I LOVED the imagery he spoke of when he talked of returning this nation to the togetherness we all felt in the days following 9-11 and beginning anew, not as republicans and democrats but as Americans.

No, the man is no Bill Clinton or Barack Obama in terms of delivery (but then, I'd be sweating too if my entire political career depended on giving a good performance)...but there are mighty few who are (including absolutely NOBODY in the current administration).

So, was there a ton of substance in the speech ? No, but then I didn't expect there to be.

 

[Elwood Blues]

Originally posted by faithinkarma
I disagreed with the reason people quote columnists.

Sorry, your point wasn't clear to me.

Carry on..

 

[BedKnobbery2]

Originally posted by Nancy

What I didn't like was all the I served in VietNam and Bush didn't, so therefore I am better for this job.

Hi Nancy!

I guess I'm confused, because I didn't notice any mention at all of Bush's service or non-service during the Viet Nam war; rather, I just heard him speak about the fact that, having fought in a war himself, having been faced with having to kill another human being, and having seen his fellow soldiers themselves killed, he gained from that valuable insight into the seriousness of sending our young men and women into war and that because he knew himself first hand what they would have to face, it allows him to seriously weigh the necessity of war.

Of course, I'm only talking about the speech itself; I haven't listened to any commentary on the networks about it, so maybe they brought up the contrast?

 

[wvrevy]

Originally posted by Elwood Blues
I'll remind you of this (if I can) in a few years if Kerry is elected and we are attacked here on our soil again.

K?

Terrorism is UP since Bush took office, remember ? And the greatest attack on our soil in our history took place on HIS watch.

Yet, you're going to "remind people" of this if we're attacked again ?

(and people wonder why I call them "Repug"nicans.)

 

[jrydberg]

BTW, I would like a president who can pronounce the word airplane correctly

Unfortunately, I keep adding up my list and no one running matches it

 

[faithinkarma]

Originally posted by Galahad
It is a frequently made admonition that everybody should see Michael Moore's movie before voting. Moore himself has called it an "op/ed" piece. It has been cited many times in these threads. How is that significantly different that quoting a columnist to support your argument. If one quoted a columnist in the absence of making an argument at all (something that has been practiced here from time to time ) then I'd agree.

I do not believe I said people should not read columnists. I did say "who cares what they think?"...as in, what anyone else thinks, including Michael Moore, should not define what I think. In other words, I would have no interest in listening to someone simply spit out what MM said without their own interpretation. I did say....READ....WATCH for yourself. But in the end, make up your own mind.

 

[Galahad]

Let's say terrorism magically stops once Kerry is elected. Kind of like, say, Spain. What a great legacy....."see, the Terrorist prefered us".........