John Kerry for President!

[arminnie]

Thanks FaithinKarma.

I truly dislike bigotry of any kind and wish that we could all agree to RESPECTFULLY disagree when there are differences.

My sister is a Democrat, and I love her to death. We don't agree on some things, but I would fight for her right to have her opinions. Another very good friend of mine is a Democrat living in the Boston area and volunteered at the DNC. I asked her if she could pick up a couple of things for my sister - just some small souvenirs. My sister was thrilled.

Yes, I am an alternate delegate to the RNC. The two parties handle alternates a little differently but the alternates go to both conventions. At the DNC there were a lot more delegates - can't remember the exact number but probably about 2000 more delegates than the RNC has, but the DNC only had about 600 alternates. For the Republicans there are fewer delegates - but one alternate for each delegate. I think it evens out and about the same number attend from each state.

Arkansas has about 30 delegates and the same number of alternates. As an alternate I do get to go to the convention and I get invited to the other events outside the convention. Only the delegates are seated on the floor. The alternates are usually upstairs in other seating but do have seats. Someone who was a delegate last time told me that they actually had better seats as alternates than the delegates on the floor did in terms of what they could see.

When a delegate has to leave the floor (to eat, go the to the restroom or to keep from dying of boredom!) an alternate will come down to take their place so there is always a full contingency of delegates on the floor.

Hopefully I will be able to do mini-trip reports from the convention.

Tricia

 

[faithinkarma]

Well, by blanket statement I meant you addressed the site, but none of the specifics. Nor have you yet. If you want to claim the site is dubious, should you not at least dispute some of it?

And yes, if I was guilty of it twice you can truthfully say I did it more than once. Although I think most would agree that given that I have provided dozens and dozens of links with only two that you can complain about, your characterization, while truthful, was unfair.

 

[minniepumpernickel]

Originally posted by Jimbo
I made no blanket statement. I took the time to discredit a particular site, and in passing Capitol Blue. I did say that you were "fond of posting from some extremely dubious sites." Maybe fond was the wrong choice of words. But suppose I had "this isn't the first time you've referenced some extremely dubious sites." Would that have been OK? It would be accurate, right?

I'm just trying to say that if you're going to go far enough out of the mainstream, make sure you know who you're quoting. It's not the quantity, it's the quality.

Do you also take the time to check if the people who are posting quotes from Republican sources are posting from dubious sites?

Also on a side note, I was watching some political show this morning and they inferred that Kerry is ahead in the polls so far? Was this an inaccurate statement? Didn't he also just win over PA?

 

[jennyanydots]

so you'll be visiting us here in NY?

be sure to bring lots of spending money. we love to ake money from republicans.

I'll be out of town that week -- don't want to deal with the hassle of Penn Station and all that security.

 

[Jimbo]

Originally posted by faithinkarma
Well, by blanket statement I meant you addressed the site, but none of the specifics. Nor have you yet. If you want to claim the site is dubious, should you not at least dispute some of it?

I must be missing something. I definitely did dispute it. Go back on read my first post. You wanted specifics, and I think I gave you just what you asked for.

 

[KennySC]

You missed the point which is usual for a Kerry supporter. Also, never does a Kerry supporter provide facts about Kerry they only attack Bush. If you could ever get over Gore losing you might one day be objective enough to put the county and your own safety ahead of your anger and hatred.... If you go back you'll see how Carter allowed Iran to push him around for almost 2 years. The day Reagan came into office the hostages were released. Clinton had 8 years to deal with the Taliban and Saddam Hussein. What did Clinton do? He shot cruise missiles each time Monica news was about to land on the front page. With Bush, Saddam is gone and 75% of the Taliban are dead. You have Colonel Mu'ammar Abu-Minyar al-Qadhafi of Libya wanting to make peace. If Gore was in office NONE of this would be the case and we would still be crying to the United Nations.

 

[Jimbo]

Originally posted by minniepumpernickel
Do you also take the time to check if the people who are posting quotes from Republican sources are posting from dubious sites?

Of course I do.

 

[faithinkarma]

arminnie,

I am so excited for you I got goosebumps ! I will be watching for you. Maybe you could wear your sorcerer's hat so you are easy to spot?

edited to add that I am, of course, referring to the time, months ago, when someone said your position in your picture makes you look like you are wearing the sorcerer's hat. Don't want anyone to think I was taking a shot at you.

 

[minniepumpernickel]

Originally posted by KennySC
You missed the point which is usual for a Kerry supporter. Also, never does a Kerry supporter provide facts about Kerry they only attack Bush. If you could ever get over Gore losing you might one day be objective enough to put the county and your own safety ahead of your anger and hatred.... If you go back you'll see how Carter allowed Iran to push him around for almost 2 years. The day Reagan came into office the hostages were released. Clinton had 8 years to deal with the Taliban and Saddam Hussein. What did Clinton do? He shot cruise missiles each time Monica news was about to land on the front page. With Bush, Saddam is gone and 75% of the Taliban are dead. You have Colonel Mu'ammar Abu-Minyar al-Qadhafi of Libya wanting to make peace. If Gore was in office NONE of this would be the case and we would still be crying to the United Nations.

Well, apparantly Al Queda is alive and well, unfortunately. So I'm lost on exactly what points you are attempting to make. It would be nice if you could do it without the cool- aid inspired, hate-rhetoric.

 

[richiebaseball]

Originally posted by faithinkarma
Why are these criticisms never specific? Why never cite examples of what is wrong?

I don't think anyone looking at that timeline can seriously think it is unbiased. It takes any action by George Bush that may be perceived in a negative way and pits that against any action taken by John Kerry that may be perceived in a positive way and then asks the question, which one is better? It's a stacked deck. It's not that the facts are wrong, it's just not the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth.

Just one man's opinion.

Richard

 

[kbeverina]

Originally posted by Nancy
I saw his daughters speak...very well done.

I agree--I personally thought Alexandra Kerry had the best speech of the convention. She's just a natural and I found her to be very inspiring and passionate about her politics.

I thought all the speeches were great, with the exception of John Edwards. That kind of surprised me, usually I like his speeches. I do have some quibbles with some of the substance of those speeches, but overall, I thought they accomplished what they were hoping to.

I didn't realize my 8 year old daughter was paying attention to them as she was playing on the computer, but at one point several nights into the convention, she turned around and said, "You should vote for John Kerry, he must be a great person--listen to all the nice things people are saying about him!"

 

[jennyanydots]

Originally posted by KennySC
You missed the point which is usual for a Kerry supporter. Also, never does a Kerry supporter provide facts about Kerry they only attack Bush. If you could ever get over Gore losing you might one day be objective enough to put the county and your own safety ahead of your anger and hatred.... If you go back you'll see how Carter allowed Iran to push him around for almost 2 years. The day Reagan came into office the hostages were released. Clinton had 8 years to deal with the Taliban and Saddam Hussein. What did Clinton do? He shot cruise missiles each time Monica news was about to land on the front page. With Bush, Saddam is gone and 75% of the Taliban are dead. You have Colonel Mu'ammar Abu-Minyar al-Qadhafi of Libya wanting to make peace. If Gore was in office NONE of this would be the case and we would still be crying to the United Nations.

and we've got a very real threat from North Korea, Iran and Saudi Arabia that's being totally ignored by the current administration.

we can't fight a preemptive war against all our enemies.

 

[Jimbo]

Originally posted by faithinkarma
Well, by blanket statement I meant you addressed the site, but none of the specifics. Nor have you yet. If you want to claim the site is dubious, should you not at least dispute some of it?

I get what you mean now. You are saying that although I think that the site is bogus (and rightfully so), I should still address what they posted there. If that's your position, I couldn't disagree more.

If someone tried to use FreeRepublican as a source, would do you think would happen?

(Hint: It would involve a lot of rolling on the floor smilies)

 

[faithinkarma]

If someone used the free republic as a source I would take a particular statement and refute it with back up. Surely you have seen enough of my posts to know I do that.

 

[jennyanydots]

don't tell me you're a Freeper...

that's what would happen.

 

[Jimbo]

Originally posted by faithinkarma
If someone used the free republic as a source I would take a particular statement and refute it with back up. Surely you have seen enough of my posts to know I do that.

I think that you probably would. But we can both think of at least three bullying-type posters that would immediately go into attack mode. And it wouldn't be pretty.

Look, you asked why no one would address the content of your link, and I told you why. And really, I tried to be gentle about it. That's about all I can say on this.

 

[faithinkarma]

I can no more be responsible for what other posters might do than you can. I asked to be treated the same way I would have responded to you, and you have declined.

Look, you asked why no one would address the content of your link, and I told you why. And really, I tried to be gentle about it. That's about all I can say on this.

award this man for the prize for the art of subtle put down. If you are comfortable having people think you do not answer because you have no answer so be it.

 

[Jimbo]

Originally posted by faithinkarma
I can no more be responsible for what other posters might do than you can. I asked to be treated the same way I would have responded to you, and you have declined.



award this man for the prize for the art of subtle put down. If you are comfortable having people think you do not answer because you have no answer so be it.

I answered!!! I said that www.independent-media.tv is a disreputable site. I pointed out why I though that. What are you asking me to do?

Seriously, I'm in the dark here.

 

[kbeverina]

Originally posted by jennyanydots
and we've got a very real threat from North Korea, Iran and Saudi Arabia that's being totally ignored by the current administration.

we can't fight a preemptive war against all our enemies.

It's absolutely untrue that nothing is being done about North Korea and Iran--multilateral talks have been ongoing with these countries urging them to fulfill the agreements they signed regarding nonproliferation.

Saudi Arabia--what particular threat are you speaking of?

 

[faithinkarma]

Originally posted by Jimbo
I answered!!! I said that www.independent-media.tv is a disreputable site. I pointed out why I though that. What are you asking me to do?

Seriously, I'm in the dark here.

All I asked was for you to take something specific from that site and explain to me how it was untruthful. But this going round in circles is accomplishing nothing. I give.