Job Need Advice (Budget Related)

[SLM]

$47,000 is a large sum of money for a first year teachers, I don't care what kind of college degree you have. Teachers need to have an innate ability to teach. I have seen my share of teachers who have all kinds of degrees, but cannot teach.

This salary was quoted for someone with their Master's degree-in most cases new teachers do not have that degree and would not start at that pay. But what about the new lawyer that has never practiced-it's ok for them to start at 50,000+ with their advanced degree, but not a schoolteacher? Teachers that are not doing their job should not be tolerated at any level and shame on the principals who don't do their job and get them out. It can be done-I've seen it happen numerous times where I work.

 

[Zydebearsmom]

I accepted the position this morning, but just got a call from the county school district and they want to see me for an interview today at 4:00 pm. Not much time but I am getting dressed and leaving my house. Wish me luck! Thanks everyone.

 

[3boymthr]

I agree. OP, Have you talked to the state unemployment office? You are required to report all job offers. You are comparing this offer as being negative to the 47K job. You never had the 47K job and just because you have a degree and worked as a clerk in the district, there is absolutely no guarantee that you will ever be offered or have the 47k job. If i was the state, I would say that you had a 1500 month job and have been offerred a 1800 a month job. The job that you have been offerred is better paying than what you are collecting the unemployment insurance for. You should not be eligible for unemployment if you turn the job down. It is not perfect for you, but it is a start. I would take it.

When on unemployment you're not obligated to accept any position offered to you just because it's offered. Yes, possibly she should accept the employment but she won't lose unemployment compensation because she doesn't accept the position. When filing for unemployment benefits, the questions asked are as follows (I took these directly from my unemployment benefits card):

During the week in question did you look for work? If directed to do so I will submit a copy of my worksearch log to the DUA.
During the week in question were you able to work and available for work?
During the week in question did you work or receive vacation pay?

 

[Alexander]

$47,000 is a large sum of money for a first year teachers, I don't care what kind of college degree you have. Teachers need to have an innate ability to teach. I have seen my share of teachers who have all kinds of degrees, but cannot teach..

This salary was quoted for someone with their Master's degree-in most cases new teachers do not have that degree and would not start at that pay. But what about the new lawyer that has never practiced-it's ok for them to start at 50,000+ with their advanced degree, but not a schoolteacher? Teachers that are not doing their job should not be tolerated at any level and shame on the principals who don't do their job and get them out. It can be done-I've seen it happen numerous times where I work.

I really have no idea what you are talking about. The OP indicated that a first year teacher with a Master's Degree near Atlanta, GA(which is what she has and where she is) would start at $47,000. What does a starting lawyer have to do with anything?

I can tell you that in NY many first year teachers have a Master's degree because it is required to get permanent certification, and $47,000 is a high salary for a first year teacher, I don't care where you are. And having a Master's degree doesn't mean you are the "best or brightest".

 

[Luvchefmic]

I really have no idea what you are talking about. The OP indicated that a first year teacher with a Master's Degree near Atlanta, GA(which is what she has and where she is) would start at $47,000. What does a starting lawyer have to do with anything?

I can tell you that in NY many first year teachers have a Master's degree because it is required to get permanent certification, and $47,000 is a high salary for a first year teacher, I don't care where you are. And having a Master's degree doesn't mean you are the "best or brightest".

I think you are absolutely right & I THINK the OP may be misinformed about salary http://www.doe.k12.ga.us/fbo_budget.aspx

 

[MaleficentandGoons]

I really have no idea what you are talking about. The OP indicated that a first year teacher with a Master's Degree near Atlanta, GA(which is what she has and where she is) would start at $47,000. What does a starting lawyer have to do with anything?

I can tell you that in NY many first year teachers have a Master's degree because it is required to get permanent certification, and $47,000 is a high salary for a first year teacher, I don't care where you are. And having a Master's degree doesn't mean you are the "best or brightest".

Many teachers just do it in one shot so that they can have their permanent lic. and just start obtaining tenure. $47,000 isn't high if she is in a good district.

 

[disneypofq05]

I am not being insulting. When you sub you are given a lesson plan, you do not write it yourself so you are taking care of and doing someone elses lesson plan, you are not originating it big difference in the eye of someone hiring. You don't have the experience of designing and writing and managing a classroom.
(and like it or not we all know subs who really do "babysit")

I do beg to differ I do know at least where I live that they do close sub lists when they have more than they can possibly use.

I have never responded to a thread like this but I have to take exception to what you are saying. I live in an area where getting a teaching job is very political. It's all about who you know. I have been passed over for the superintendent's neighbor, the secretary's nephew and many other people. I work all but 10-15 days out of a 180 day school year. More often than not I am called at the last minute and asked to create the lesson plans because the classroom teacher did not leave them. I am reliable and do everything that is asked of me to the point of being taken advantage of. I do this because I love my job. I hope by paying my dues I can have my own classroom. There are subs that are "babysitters" but please don't put us all in that category.

To the original poster: good luck with your job search!

 

[Zydebearsmom]

I think you are absolutely right & I THINK the OP may be misinformed about salary http://www.doe.k12.ga.us/fbo_budget.aspx

No I am not misinformed. What you are looking at is from the state you need to look at the counties try this link: http://www.atlantapublicschools.us/...MDRN=2000&BCOB=0&c=55734&2042Nav=|&NodeID=484. If this does not work type in www.atlantapublicschools.us and you will see the salary scale, actually Atlanta public schools first year teachers with a Masters is starting at 48,000.00. You cant look at the state website you have to go to the individual counties. The state website just tells you what the state pay it does not inluded what the county pays.

On another not I got a job it is not making 47,000 but it is making 45,000. I am so happy and I start tomorrow. I have to turn my contract in tomorrow. YEAK So let me get ready for bed good night!

 

[Luvchefmic]

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[mickeymaker2003]

LOL. Your right! Guess I should no better.

Sorry, I can't help myself... I guess you should "know" better.

 

[hambirg]

is flexibility. DO NOT eliminate buildings that are farther than you would "like" to drive, or that you think are in a bad part of town. These schools can surprise you--sometimes behaviors are better because they are more proactive about dealing with things. That being said, if you have a horrid subbing experience, don't be afraid to say no to subbing there again!
A successful sub has excellent classroom management skills. Most teachers are far more concerned that their class was appropriate than if the plans were followed to a T. (Oh, you will find a few whiners who never subbed who just DON'T understand why a sub cannot follow their 16 hours worth of plans in 6 hours...)
The suggestion to negotiate the contract is a good one (a private school may have leverage to do this) BUT you are still better off subbing. You can network & be "seen". Good subs get hired.
Atlanta is known for having a well-priced housing market--that salary is quite good! Good luck!
(PS and who cares if you make spelling/grammar errors here--THIS is where you can let it all hang out!....and you would THINK you could do so without snarky comments....)

This! I would not take the low paying, private school job. You want to network and make contacts in the public school system. I know in the district I taught in they were much more willing to hire subs that have had experience in the public schools, than teachers that only had private school experience. They are two different animals and private school teachers have a difficult time making that transition. . .hence why they get trapped in the lower paying positions.

It is customary here for the districts to make big layoffs in the spring, only to turn around and quietly hire back a lot of teachers in the fall. Get on that sub list! And you can even sub in more than one district if you are worried you won't get enough days. You said you are a secondary math teacher. . .that will help. . .secondary math and science teachers are usually in higher demand.

ETA-I just looked it up. . .in my district a 1st year teacher with a Masters degree makes $46,323

Oh, and NOW I see you got another job. Cool beans!