Jimmy Carter

[DisneyDotty]

I personally think Jimmy Carter is a great man. His humanitarian efforts alone put him in a category above most.

Did you see him on The Daily Show? Love his self-deprecating humor.

 

[JoeEpcotRocks]

What I see is a list of your opinions only that have little to do with the facts.

So true. A lot of assumptions there (wire taps "illegal"). What was the congressional vote on the original Patriot Act? (It was not simply a presidential decree, they VOTED.)

You know if real dictators read that list they would roll their eyes.

 

[disney1990]

http://www.clintonfoundation.org/

George W. knew that calling upon Clinton would be a positive thing following the Tsunami and the hurricanes. Some people just have to continue to be bitter even when they are proven to be wrong.

 

[Am_I_There_Yet]

Back in the old days, when I was married to my ex-DH, our plumbing company did the plumbing on one of his H.H. houses.

A few weeks after the first one was completed, Jimmy Carter himself called my DH and asked if we would be willing to participate in another one.

We were busy at the time, and would you believe my ex told him NO???? Stupidity was only one of the reasons I divorced him.

 

[shortbun]

But then, this is a thread about JC.

Actually, it WAS a thread about President Carter, Dawn. You have turned it into a thread about YOU-again. I'm tired of your thread hijacking for personal venting. Mean spirited to a fault, you are the topic of this thread now.

 

[dcentity2000]

Perhaps you could suggest "ways to negotiate with terrorists"? That should be interesting.

We in the UK turned our terrorists into idiot politicians who lose elections on a regular basis



Rich::

 

[Tanuki]

I just wanted to say that I admire former President Carter as well.

As for suggesting ways to negotiate with terrorists.

Perhaps we could arrange a deal where we sell arms to Iran in order to get them to influence their buddies to free hostages. Then we could divert the proceeds from the sale and send them to Latin America to fund a revolution there in direct violation of a law passed by the United States Congress. That's one way to barter for their release - Oh wait - the Republicans already did that.

 

[Ziva]

I personally think Jimmy Carter is a great man. His humanitarian efforts alone put him in a category above most.

Not a fan of his politics but I think he's a good guy.

 

[superbird]

Dawn do you ever have anything nice to say?



As they always say "The truth hurts doesn't it"!!!!!!!!

As president and when not building homes he was awful for everything Dawn says and more!!!!

 

[tiggersmom2]

Actually, it WAS a thread about President Carter, Dawn. You have turned it into a thread about YOU-again. I'm tired of your thread hijacking for personal venting. Mean spirited to a fault, you are the topic of this thread now.

Ummmm....NO! Dawn was giving her personal opinion about Jimmy Carter (and I happen to share her view). This is a public bb and the last time I checked we can all share our views about any subject. If you don't like her posts, too bad, don't read them.

 

[Feralpeg]

In other words, he should shut up. He is much more "admirable" when he is silent.

That could be said of many.

 

[BuzznBelle'smom]

To clear up a minor point, JC is a nuclear engineer, not a physicist. Union College offers no degree in nuclear physics. In fact, they only offer one graduate course in nuclear engineering (which I've taken). You could probably get an MS in nuclear engineering, if you added other mech. eng. courses and did a major project in the field. It's a small school with a smaller engineering dept. Trust me, it's nothing to brag about--more serious engineers would pick RPI (in Troy, NY, ~10 miles away) in a heartbeat.

As far as Carter goes, he was a lousy president. I do respect what he's done with HFH, but he's hardly in a position to be so critical of more recent presidents, considering what a lousy job he did. And I sure don't recall Reagan or Bush 41 spending their time criticizing Clinton--it's much more statesmanlike to keep your own counsel.

 

[dcentity2000]

Bush is strong, religious, and patriotic.

He dragged his country - and others - into an unpopular war based on incorrect evidence thus incapacitating his own country against all others for a measurable space of time. He has removed America from the list of "countries you can count on to do the sane and respectful thing" (along with a few other countries) and currently sullies the memory of 9/11 by using it as an excuse for dubious phone taps and freedom erosions - he's certainly strong (like a lump of granite) and he's certainly religious (on his own terms, just like ever fallible human) but patriotic is dubious.

I think that he thinks he is furthering the world by declaring war on large portions of it, but it's just a pity that his respect for democracy doesn't encompass the other several hundred countries - comprising of billions of people more than in the USA.

I guess you could call him subjectively patriotic, meaning that he doesn't intend the harm he causes, but objectively he just isn't there. I mean, he's destroyed America's standing in the world, advertised Al Queda, given people a great reason to turn terrorist, preached to his own people based on known poor evidence and has spent all of your money in the process.

Great

However, not being patriotic isn't the end of the world. When all's said and done, patriotism is an allegiance to a body of people and their anticipated ideals - which pails in comparison to allegiance to the world and their views. Patriotism also assumes a good quality to your country over and above all other countries which could be argued as a racist calling.

Sometimes, patriotism isn't enough. Sometimes, you need true pride in the world. Very few leaders try to aim for that. Ghandi was one, I guess. So was Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. Fine people.



Rich::

 

[Planogirl]

Bush 41 is an unusually silent ex-President who has remained largely uninvolved with politics since leaving office. Reagan was too ill to make much of a public impact once he left office. Carter has chosen to remain involved and I don't see why that's a bad thing.

Personally, I think that thread hijacking is sad and this is just another case of it. It's too bad really but clearly shows how both sides can say mean and pointless things. In other words, it's not just the Libs as we hear so often.

 

[DawnCt1]

Actually, it WAS a thread about President Carter, Dawn. You have turned it into a thread about YOU-again. I'm tired of your thread hijacking for personal venting. Mean spirited to a fault, you are the topic of this thread now.

Actually, this thread has absolutely nothing to do with me. It was you who chose to make it about me.

 

[dcentity2000]

About Carter, wasn't he awarded the Nobel Prize for Peace in 2002?

[EDIT] He was, "for his decades of untiring effort to find peaceful solutions to international conflicts, to advance democracy and human rights, and to promote economic and social development" (Source: Nobel).

I dunno about you, but I kinda respect the Nobel Peace Prize. Kinda high salutations.



Rich::

 

[JoeEpcotRocks]

He dragged his country - and others - into an unpopular war based on incorrect evidence thus incapacitating his own country against all others for a measurable space of time. He has removed America from the list of "countries you can count on to do the sane and respectful thing" (along with a few other countries) and currently sullies the memory of 9/11 by using it as an excuse for dubious phone taps and freedom erosions - he's certainly strong (like a lump of granite) and he's certainly religious (on his own terms, just like ever fallible human) but patriotic is dubious.

I think that he thinks he is furthering the world by declaring war on large portions of it, but it's just a pity that his respect for democracy doesn't encompass the other several hundred countries - comprising of billions of people more than in the USA.

I guess you could call him subjectively patriotic, meaning that he doesn't intend the harm he causes, but objectively he just isn't there. I mean, he's destroyed America's standing in the world, advertised Al Queda, given people a great reason to turn terrorist, preached to his own people based on known poor evidence and has spent all of your money in the process.

Great

However, not being patriotic isn't the end of the world. When all's said and done, patriotism is an allegiance to a body of people and their anticipated ideals - which pails in comparison to allegiance to the world and their views. Patriotism also assumes a good quality to your country over and above all other countries which could be argued as a racist calling.

Sometimes, patriotism isn't enough. Sometimes, you need true pride in the world. Very few leaders try to aim for that. Ghandi was one, I guess. So was Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. Fine people.



Rich::

President Bush has far more consideration for the world than you ever give him credit. I've had the Iraq debate so many times with you, and I still disagree entirely with you opinions. The Iraqi's have thanked us. Our country and its allies are fighting for the oppressed and against terrorism. Praise God.

 

[N.Bailey]

About Carter, wasn't he awarded the Nobel Prize for Peace in 2002?

[EDIT] He was, "for his decades of untiring effort to find peaceful solutions to international conflicts, to advance democracy and human rights, and to promote economic and social development" (Source: Nobel).

I dunno about you, but I kinda respect the Nobel Peace Prize. Kinda high salutations.



Rich::

Maybe they can give it to Castro next?

 

[Feralpeg]

I could care less about Jimmy Carter's time as president. It is what he has done since that makes me respect him. Yes, HH is a wonderful program, but I think his efforts that helped eliminate Guinea worm infestations around the world should be respected. I watched a program about Guinea worms. Their eggs are ingested from contaminated water. The worms grow in the persons digestive track until they are several feet in length. Then, they bore their way out through a person's skin. How horrible! Carter helped eradicate this horrible condition. This is just one of the health programs he has helped launch in third world countries. I have great respect for Jimmy Carter.

 

[JoeEpcotRocks]

About Carter, wasn't he awarded the Nobel Prize for Peace in 2002?

[EDIT] He was, "for his decades of untiring effort to find peaceful solutions to international conflicts, to advance democracy and human rights, and to promote economic and social development" (Source: Nobel).

I dunno about you, but I kinda respect the Nobel Peace Prize. Kinda high salutations.



Rich::

Not after it's been given to a murdering terrorist named Arafat. And they gave it to Carter partially as a slam against President Bush.

It's damaged goods now.