Jet Blue just lost my business

They make you shop for more underwear at your destination or do you have to ship it?
Maybe you're only to have 1 personal item on your person at all...
just 1 pair of underwear to cover your bum. Nothing less, nothing more.

Then they sell $30 blankets to passengers and $5 hot coffee/tea.
 
I just booked 2 JetBlue tickets yesterday for a Sept trip. They finally extended their calendar to include our dates. Previous best option was United, $135rt EWR/MCO but fees for both carryon and checked luggage.

JetBlue was $144 but only $11 using just under 8k points for Blue (one tier up from Blue Basic which wasn't even avail for our date anyway). Came with seat choice and carryon, checked 50lb bag $40. Using my Jetblue cc to book allowed 1 free checked bag for up to 4ppl in my party. Still comes out ahead for us compared to United.
 

But they will also now allow changes on the lowest price fares for $100 and free on all other fares, just pay the difference in fare. Also same day changes on most fares will be $75 with no fare difference.

That is huge and since we always want to pick our seats and don't want to board last, the blue fare is what we always pick anyway.

Also, Blue Basic allows a personal item that fits under the seat in front of you. There are plenty of personal items that are small enough to do this that can hold a week's worth of luggage if you are good at packing, especially if you use space save bags, just get the ones that you can use a vacuum with, but can also do without one.

Yes, there is a trade off in policies, but I think for the majority of people it is a good and balanced one. There are also ways to get a carry on even with Blue Basic or at least a free checked bag or two using their credit card, purchasing an Even More Space seat, have Mosaic Status, be active duty military or an unaccompanied minor.
 
Just to offer a different perspective, bags have never really been free, they were just included in the price of the ticket.

I understand why this can be frustrating, but more weight simply means more fuel, which is the most expensive part of flying. Airlines are definitely trying to recalculate profit margins now.

This reminds me of when airlines first started charging for checked bags which is now commonplace. Even though we’ve come to expect carryons are included, all those carryons quickly add up to the equivalent of extra people, especially when many travelers are trying to avoid checked bag fees instead of only taking what they need in flight.

I think paying a la carte for carryons like checked bags has some benefits.

It’s a discount for day trippers who don’t need any bags and it encourages some to pay for a checked bag instead of taking massive carryons (which are rarely measured/weighed). Hopefully it frees up more space in the cabin - and lightens the flight load.
I’m wondering when airlines will start asking us to step on the scale with our bags.🤪😳
That is another valid point, they are dropping the price on their tickets with this policy change as well.
 
I think the airlines should go all in on the concept it is all about the weight. Each ticket should include a weight allowance. At checkin you weigh in along with all your stuff for under and in the plane. If within your total allowance no additional collection, otherwise collect based on each excess ounce.
 
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I think the airlines should go all in on the concept it is all about the weight. Each ticket should include a weight allowance. At checkin you weigh in along with all your stuff for under and in the plane. If within your total allowance no additional collection, otherwise collect based on each excess ounce.
Are you like me? Do you (or in my case did you) always pay for a seat for your kids no matter how old they are? It always rubbed me the wrong way that someone who was too large for the seat was allowed to use 2 seats without paying for the 2nd seat, unless the plane was full (they have to book a second seat, but then get refunded if the plane isn't full). OK, but I get on with my infant who I could just bring on as a lap child, I get charged if I want them to use a seat and strap them in safely, even if the plane is empty? It's a moot point for me now that my kids are older, but still. There is no way my infant and his car seat is heavier than the guy who can't fit in one seat.
 
Are you like me? Do you (or in my case did you) always pay for a seat for your kids no matter how old they are?
I also always paid for a seat for my kids even when they were < 2. In my case it was because I knew my kids would never sit in my lap for any length of time on a flight. The entire plane would hate me and my child if I had tried. However in their car seats they were perfect travelers. You haven't lived until you have the stress of wondering how your 2 year old will behave during 17 hours of flying (28 hours of travel) from ATL-LAX-AKL.
 
I always thought JetBlue was pretty expensive compared to Frontier/Spirit/Allegiant, so the no free carry on thing seems odd unless they are dropping their prices (which I doubt.) When I'm faced with an AA fare at $250 and a budget airline at $189, sometimes I'll opt for AA just because I don't have to worry about fees/seats/etc. BUT I'll always go for the $45-$65 roundtrip Frontier fare and pack everything I can into a "personal item" sized backpack because that's just an insane price--even if I don't know if our party will sit together and I question until the last second if my bag will count only as a personal item (always has.)

In sum--I'm surprised because JetBlue consistently seemed pricier than the no perks airlines, so I'm not sure what this does to how competitive they are. Surely they know that and have done the research, though!
 
I always thought JetBlue was pretty expensive compared to Frontier/Spirit/Allegiant, so the no free carry on thing seems odd unless they are dropping their prices (which I doubt.) When I'm faced with an AA fare at $250 and a budget airline at $189, sometimes I'll opt for AA just because I don't have to worry about fees/seats/etc. BUT I'll always go for the $45-$65 roundtrip Frontier fare and pack everything I can into a "personal item" sized backpack because that's just an insane price--even if I don't know if our party will sit together and I question until the last second if my bag will count only as a personal item (always has.)

In sum--I'm surprised because JetBlue consistently seemed pricier than the no perks airlines, so I'm not sure what this does to how competitive they are. Surely they know that and have done the research, though!


Jet Blue (and SouthWest) is considered a Low Cost Carrier (LCC) where as Frontier/Spirit/Allegiant and SunCountry, I believe, are considered Ultra Low Cost Carriers (ULLC). Basically with the ULLC's you pay for the seat and everything else can be extra such as printing your boarding pass, picking your seat in advance, charging for a carry on, on board drinks and snacks etc. With a LCC most but not all "extra" stuff is included. Most airlines including Legacy Carriers (AA,Delta, and United) with the exception of SW have now gone to charging for checked bags taking a page from the ULLC's.
 
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Jet Blue (and SouthWest) is considered a Low Cost Carrier (LCC) where as Frontier/Spirit/Allegiant and SunCountry, I believe, are considered Ultra Low Cost Carriers (ULLC). Basically with the ULLC's you pay for the seat and everything else can be extra such as printing your boarding pass, picking your seat in advance, charging for a carry on, on board drinks and snacks etc. With a LCC most but not all "extra" stuff is included. Most airlines including Legacy Carriers (AA,Delta, and United) with the exception of SW have now gone to charging for checked bags taking a page from the ULLC's.

Thanks for that distinction, I didn’t know that! So would say this move by JetBlue is one to morph to an ULLC, or it’s just taking a page from the ULLC as you saw AA, for example, has done from LLCs?
 
Thanks for that distinction, I didn’t know that! So would say this move by JetBlue is one to morph to an ULLC, or it’s just taking a page from the ULLC as you saw AA, for example, has done from LLCs?
Jet Blue is trying to position itself on the same level as the Legacy's, this is one of those moves. This exactly matches what the legacies originally planned with basic economy, a no frills experience that competes with the ULCC. I don't think they are quite there yet, but they are certainly trying, if they ever come to my part of the country I would be willing to give them a try.
 
I have no issue with this...Blue Basic is no frills. I can pack for a long weekend in a bag that fits beneath the seat. I know that the times I needed overhead space, it was hard to find unless I boarded early in the process...which meant paying extra for an extra legroom seat, or boarded in toward the rear of the plane...which meant long waits to get off the plane. You know what you're getting, when you book.
 
United is the only legacy carrier that only includes a personal item for the lowest ticket tier. It's just another thing to keep an eye on when booking travel.

I would rather be able to book a cheap fare when I only need an underseat bag than to have all fares increased. But I still usually book SW because of their flexibility when using points and free checked bags.
 












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