Jersey Week-Never Again!

[disneylovr1]

What in the world is Jersey Week? I have never heard of this before. Does everyone in NJ have a mandatory vacation during the same week, or what??? There's no Pennsylvania week that I've ever caught wind of. It just sounds odd For my future reference, when exactly is this week full of New Jersians?

 

[turnlisa]

Here's a link:

http://www.disboards.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=669689&highlight=+Jersey++Week

Hope this helps!

 

[tardin1964]

Originally posted by Disney_1derland
I knew the flames would fly.

If you knew the flames would fly, why did you even make your original post. If you post negativity you are going to get some back.

I know you said that you are just posting what happened to you. In your original post, however, you could have handled what happened to you in a more mature manner and gotten your point across just the same.

I assume your point is that you would not go again during the begining of November because it is too crowded. You should have just left it at that.

 

[beattyfamily]

Wow, I cannot believe how nasty some are being to the OP! I think you need to take a step back and take a deep breath before you post.

She's appologized more than once if she offended anyone. Why isn't that enough?

She only posted her experience in the nicest way, IMHO. Why don't we just let it go now. If this thread bothers you so much, let it die already.

I'm so sorry people are being so nasty to you.

 

[tardin1964]

beattyfamily

I don't think anyone is being "nasty". People are just posting their opinions.

When you post that you know you are going to get flamed you should think twice about what you are about to say becasue your probably are. If you can't handle what people's responses are you shouldn't make a post like that.

 

[RickinNYC]

In my humble opinion, whenever anyplace has an event, sanctioned or not, where one group of people, whether due to geography, race, religion, sexual orientation or anything else under the sun, there will be a very small group of people that will stand out as rude, ignorant or just downright mean. And that small group will, in your mind, represent your perception of everyone that is associated with them. Case in point, the original poster's story, others feeling about Night of Joy or Gay Days.

A tiny contingent of people do NOT represent the greater whole but they will only if you allow it.

I think what those jerks did insofar as line jumping or attitude was disgusting, but you shouldn't let it cloud your mind. I know it's hard not to, I'm as guilty as the next person. But that's how stereotypes are formed.

And for the record, I think you confronting them was a job well done. Unless they were completely callous or simply self serving to the the tenth degree, I'm pretty confident you not only embarrassed the heck out them and made them rethink their behavior. I like to think so.

 

[Mom2Ashli]

We had a line jumper. We were there Nov. 5-7. After standing in line for 20 minutes we go thru the turnstiles and this teenager from 4 families back cuts like 8 people. The father says to him get back here and the kid is going no you guys come up here. This goes on for several minutes. Needless to say that the kid stayed where he cut and the family stayed behind. If that were my kid I would have been like get yourself back here for get out of line and sit until we are done.
Yep sorry to say they were from N.J. I know that not all people are like that but this kid was and his family let it happen.

 

[JohnNJ]

Originally posted by Mom2Ashli
Yep sorry to say they were from N.J. I know that not all people are like that but this kid was and his family let it happen.

How can you say the family let it happen? What did you want the parents to do? Rip the kid out of line and cause a big scene?

Most likely, they let the kid ride and took care of the discipline later. If they were really from NJ, they probably beat the crap out of him later in the room.

John-NJ

 

[flyball]

Originally posted by Disney_1derland


The parks were mobbed every day except Tuesday of our trip. It was completely crowded with 60-90 minute waits on the popular rides and 30-45 minute waits everywhere else.

Now, let me strap on my flame proof suit and preface what I'm about to say with:

I know there are many wonderful people on these boards from New Jersey. I have read their posts and have no doubt that they love the magic as much as I do, but apparently we didn't see any of these wonderful residents of New Jersey and only had interaction with their Evil counterparts.

We were the victims of 3 line hopping scams in the same day at MK. Same scenario each time. 12 year old (or therabouts) child alone in line ahead of us. Worried mom comes through and starts exclaiming loudly about how dare the child run off like that they were all scared to death and how he/she had better not do it again. Much drama was involved in all of this. She then gets in line with the child. (I was okay up to that point though I did wonder why the child was rolling their eyes at the mom while getting the lecture) Then, worried mom has to get out of line to get another child out that is waiting for her while she looks for missing kid. (again, okay so far) BUT THEN....She comes back with 3 kids and 2 adults all of whom jump into line ahead of us and then as we progress in the line more and more and more people join them.

The first time I told dh, hey, that was a line jumping scam. One of the adults heard me say it and offered to let us go ahead of them if we would not report them to the cast member. I just looked at him and said, consider this your magic for the trip, I will not report you but you should consider the fact that you are stealing the magic from little girls and that's terribly selfish. He looked stunned. But then, it happened again. The second time the guy looked straight at me and told me that if I didn't like it I shouldn't have come during Jersey Week since everyone knows the park basically belongs to residents of New Jersey during this time and they'd probably kick me out for complaining.

Thats when it occured to me that he and the group before had the same accents. OY! I NEVER would have connected it but get real! The park does not belong to you! Jersey Week is not a sanctioned event.

I did report the second guy and nothing was done. The cast member said they have no real power in those situations.

The third time I just looked at the family and said, let me guess, you're from New Jersey and they smiled and said "how'd you know?" I said well, three times today we've had people cut in line and every time they were from New Jersey and I have just been told that you own the park and I just wanted to say thanks for impacting our magical time, It's great to come here and see that some people are so special and the rest of us don't matter at all. They just stared at me and then got out of line.

Yep, I was mad, but I said it in the nicest way possible and there were other people from New Jersey in line who came to apologize to me after that. To apologize for the 3 very large familys who made their entire state look bad. I was at least touched by that.

But, it didn't even phase us, we had a great time and next time we plan a trip it will NOT be during Jersey Week.

One of the traits we New Jerseyians possess (and I'm originally from New York, so I guess I'm doubly offensive) is that we call a spade a spade. Your remarks are insulting and inflammatory, that's why they're being perceived that way by some. I read this thread because I thought it would shed light on the possible pitfalls of visiting DW during this particular week. I've been reading these boards for less than a year, so I naively expected to gain some useful information about this week. I didn't know that there is an annual Jersey bashing that I should have been aware of. The only item in your post that I find useful and pertinent is the detail about the wait times. Your implication that the line-jumping incidents are some kind of organized Jersey scam is laughable, as is the notion that a Jersey family apologized for the "3 very large families who made their entire state look bad." How did this family know that you had had two other line jumping incidents at the hands of Jersey families that day? How do you know that you didn't see any of "these wonderful residents of New Jersey" and only interacted with their "evil counterparts?" Did you interview everyone you had positive contact with as to their state of origin? We saw rude behavior on our trip as well, but I think it's false logic to assign an entire group the obnoxious label that a few may have deserved. It's your prerogative not to visit during this week due to the crowds, but that's really all you had to say.

 

[RESINDUDE]

I was there last year during Jersey week. I came back and posted the same type of observation. I was drilled for it on these boards. I will never go back during this week. Loud obnoxious rude behavior was everywhere. They were all from Jersey, they all said it. Never again.

 

[BCVBRUCE]

Originally posted by flyball
One of the traits we New Jerseyians possess (and I'm originally from New York, so I guess I'm doubly offensive) is that we call a spade a spade.

Well this is one FORMER NEW JERSEYIAN who could not agree with you more. That is also why I am SOOOOO glad I moved from NJ 20 years ago and will never go back to live. So, LETS PLAY SPADES!!!

1) The original poster already said that she understands that the incidents are not representative of all people from NJ.(Obviously not good enough!)

2) The rude people who cut in line SAID they were from NJ, that it was Jersey Week, that they owned the park and that they could probably have the victim, in this case, kicked out if they complained. These are not stereotypical assumptions on the part of the original poster, it is a stated fact by the offensive party.

3) The original poster stated several times that she would not go back to WDW during "Jersey Week", not because of the people but because of the crowds.

4) It does not matter if the "Line Jumping" incident took place three times or one time. One time is rude enough.


I am totally not surprised at the reaction by those, who are SOOOOOOOO offended and who are ganging up on the original poster. It reminds me of every time I go to visit my family. If one person diagrees with a member in my family, everyone gets louder and louder and louder trying to talk over everyone else, just so they can beat the one dissenting opinion into the ground. EXACTLY WHAT IS HAPPENING HERE!!!

Oh yea, did I mention the F!@# bomb? I love it when the F!@# bomb gets dropped, only to show everyone else that you are more serious than the other loud mouth in the group. At least the F!@# bomb has not been dropped yet. Then we all would know this was serious.

Wow, it has been a year since I visited my family. I was starting to miss a bunch of angry New Jerseyians arguing over something insignificant.

One poster, from NJ, mentioned that DIS board NJ bashing is an annual event. Ask yourself, WHY???

Everyone, please grow up.

Bruce,

 

[flyball]

Originally posted by RESINDUDE
I was there last year during Jersey week. I came back and posted the same type of observation. I was drilled for it on these boards. I will never go back during this week. Loud obnoxious rude behavior was everywhere. They were all from Jersey, they all said it. Never again.

"Obnoxious, rude behavior" comes in all forms. Dissing an entire group of people on a public forum based on the actions of a small cross-section qualifies as "obnoxious, rude behavior" in my book.

 

[JohnNJ]

Originally posted by RESINDUDE
I was there last year during Jersey week. I came back and posted the same type of observation. I was drilled for it on these boards. I will never go back during this week. Loud obnoxious rude behavior was everywhere. They were all from Jersey, they all said it. Never again.

I can see why you were "drilled". You made a similar assumption to the OP. IMHO, you deserved it.

Everyone can read it here:

http://www.disboards.com/showthread.php?s=&postid=4421966#post4421966

John-NJ

 

[sters]

Originally posted by Mom2Ashli
We had a line jumper. We were there Nov. 5-7. After standing in line for 20 minutes we go thru the turnstiles and this teenager from 4 families back cuts like 8 people. The father says to him get back here and the kid is going no you guys come up here. This goes on for several minutes. Needless to say that the kid stayed where he cut and the family stayed behind. If that were my kid I would have been like get yourself back here for get out of line and sit until we are done.
Yep sorry to say they were from N.J. I know that not all people are like that but this kid was and his family let it happen.

I'm sure, if you'd cared to ask, most of the people surrounding you were rule-abiding and patient New Jersey folk since the vast majority of guests that week are from New Jersey. The line-jumpers may have been from New Jersey, but so is everyone else. I'm sure the percentage of rude New Jerseyians that week would equal the percentage of rude people from other spots any other week. New Jersey doesn't corner the market on bad behavior. To imply so is sterotypical and a demonstration of bad manners on your part. Shame on you!

 

[flyball]

Originally posted by BCVBRUCE
Well this is one FORMER NEW JERSEYIAN who could not agree with you more. That is also why I am SOOOOO glad I moved from NJ 20 years ago and will never go back to live. So, LETS PLAY SPADES!!!

1) The original poster already said that she understands that the incidents are not representative of all people from NJ.(Obviously not good enough!)

2) The rude people who cut in line SAID they were from NJ, that it was Jersey Week, that they owned the park and that they could probably have the victim, in this case, kicked out if they complained. These are not stereotypical assumptions on the part of the original poster, it is a stated fact by the offensive party.

3) The original poster stated several times that she would not go back to WDW during "Jersey Week", not because of the people but because of the crowds.

4) It does not matter if the "Line Jumping" incident took place three times or one time. One time is rude enough.


I am totally not surprised at the reaction by those, who are SOOOOOOOO offended and who are ganging up on the original poster. It reminds me of every time I go to visit my family. If one person diagrees with a member in my family, everyone gets louder and louder and louder trying to talk over everyone else, just so they can beat the one dissenting opinion into the ground. EXACTLY WHAT IS HAPPENING HERE!!!

Oh yea, did I mention the F!@# bomb? I love it when the F!@# bomb gets dropped, only to show everyone else that you are more serious than the other loud mouth in the group. At least the F!@# bomb has not been dropped yet. Then we all would know this was serious.

Wow, it has been a year since I visited my family. I was starting to miss a bunch of angry New Jerseyians arguing over something insignificant.

One poster, from NJ, mentioned that DIS board NJ bashing is an annual event. Ask yourself, WHY???

Everyone, please grow up.

Bruce,

I just want to say, Bruce, that you're the only poster on this thread who has resorted to "yelling" and referencing obscenities to get your point across. My point was that people were insulted because the OP's original remarks were generalizations, which are often not received well. Yes, specific things happened on the trip, but there was definitely editorializing that seemed to be designed to incite some degree of controversy.

 

[RESINDUDE]

Thanks JonhNJ, I did not have time to search for my other post, glad you did.
It was not an assumption, it was an observation. For some reason, the people with loud obnoxious rude behavior were from Jersey. It was a running joke with our family when we would see this behavior. We would say, are you from Jersey? The reply was always, yes, how did you know?
These are the facts. I hate to generalize but that is what we have found. It seems these people like to think they own the park and nobody else is important.
My favorite one is when a group of them would get on a bus and shout across the bus what they were doing, where they were going. They are the most important people in the world.
It sickens me.
Never again.

 

[TinyToonThor]

As a rule, people from "up North" are rude. Why would the Jersey people be any different?

 

[Poohbear123]

"I don't know WHERE they were from, but they were rude..." They could have been from Miami, as we have REALLY rude people here! The girls jumping the lines, and hopping on the bus was most likely from Miami or ANYWHERE USA! I also noticed A lot of people were smoking in line, and not anywhere near the designated "smoking sections."

 

[drgnfly30]

As a rule, people from "up North" are rude.

the people with loud obnoxious rude behavior were from Jersey. It was a running joke with our family when we would see this behavior.

In my opinoin those comments are out & out insults & generalizations. As a whole it is really nothing but stereotyping people who reside in Jersey... Do you also stereotype other races, religions, or people with sexual orientations other than your own?

While I didn't agree wholly with the OP impression of the crowds (see my earlier post) there is no need for others to chime in & make matters worse by insulting others. Is this how you teach your children to treat others? The world is a big place - not everyone will act in a manner you feel is acceptable. We need to respect others differences not judge them.


You can flame away but you'll have to try to find something wrong with us Delawareans first....

Christine

 

[BCVBRUCE]

Originally posted by flyball
I just want to say, Bruce, that you're the only poster on this thread who has resorted to "yelling" and referencing obscenities to get your point across. My point was that people were insulted because the OP's original remarks were generalizations, which are often not received well. Yes, specific things happened on the trip, but there was definitely editorializing that seemed to be designed to incite some degree of controversy.

1) I am referencing obscenities. I am not using obscenities, nor would I. I am merely stating a fact about how my family, who are from NJ, speak. My family are probably the rudest, loudest and most obnoxious people from NJ I know. Heck, they were probably one of the groups of people who cut in line.

2) I am not yelling either. However, that proves my point. You perceive that I am yelling and you feel the need to strike back and repeat your point, which we have all heard numerous times by all the so called offended New Jerseyians. Get over it.

3) There was not a ounce of editorializing in the original poster's comments.

4) Does the truth hurt that much??? Why can't you all accept the fact that on three seperate occassions, three seperate goups of people from NJ cut in line and were rather rude about it? Why then, can't the response be, " Hey, we (people from NJ) are sorry you had such a bad experience, and we agree with you that not all people from NJ act like this." You know, like the original poster stated. These people from NJ embarrassed other good people from NJ(probably good people like you). Why defend them?

5) Flaming on the OP and re-enforcing her misconceptions about people from NJ is not working.

6) Again I ask. Why is it that every year posts about New Jerseyians surface and every year you all get spun up? Change the perception. Do not re-enforce it by getting mad year after year after year.

7) I thought cutting in line was something we worried about when we were 5?

Have A Great Day,
Bruce