I've decided which camera, help with lenses?

U might want to look at Ritz .com i got the same thing for i think a cheaper price

But u might want to look ki got the same camera
 
I guess if they don't know what auto focus is and intend to use a DSLR as a glorified P & S, they likely won't be in the market for a 50mm 1.8 prime lens, which is a rather specialized lens. A 50mm prime lens will be very frustrating to someone who doesn't understand DOF, etc. It is not considered an entry level, P & S type lens. I don't understand why it keeps coming up every time someone wants a simple, easy to use entry level DSLR.

I have nothing against Nikon and I want to make that clear. If every buyer was properly informed, then this would never be an issue. The problem is that most people making the upgrade are not informed, are starting as auto shooters, and have a limited budget. That does not mean that they are always going to be inexperienced though, but the budget might never expand. Thinking about that, I feel that many could end up learning enough to completely understand DOF, AF, AE, etc. and then realize that their equipment cannot do what they want it to do for their budget. If they know what they are getting into up front, then there are no complaints or disappointments down the road. Besides, even though I am a Pentax shooter, I suggested a perspective D40 buyer consider the D80, not the K200D.

Also, DSLRs are practically flying off the shelves even with the bad economy. Many of these people have no idea what to do with them and leave them in auto. I would be willing to bet that as many as 25% of the owners of prime lenses do not even know what DOF is. Then another 25% probably have heard of it, but do not know how to control it. If only experienced users bought them, they would not be able to move the quantities out the door enough to only charge $100. Remember that here on the DIS we only see a tiny fraction of people interested in getting a DSLR. The majority of the uninformed get their info from the salesman that gets them to buy all sorts of things they do not know how to properly use. Would you trust a BB or CC salesman to set you up with a DSLR setup when you know nothing. :scared1: Unfortunately, many do. I have even seen a significant number of posts on various boards where people have been sold that very lens and a D40/D40x/D60 and are on the board asking what is wrong with their lens b/c it will not focus. They are not very happy when told that it will not AF. Then on places like DPReview, they are publicly ridiculed and run screaming.
 
I own several Nikon DSLRs and I have to admit that my two favorites are the Nikon D60 (which some people have already reccommended to you) and the D300 (which is way out of the range of what you are looking for). The D60 though is a good start you may consider. It is reasonably fast, produces clean crisp shots and it a good transition point from a point and shot to a DSLR. Check out Costco for good deals, I got my D60 body the 18-55 (VR) and 55-200 (VR) bag and a 1GB SD card for $870 with tax, it was a pretty awesome price and that way you can try two different lens and decide what you like.

Also if you have not already checked out the pictures that a D60 can produce check out the flickr group to see peoples photos with a D60 (there is also a D40 and D40x pool so you can compare)

http://www.flickr.com/groups/nikond60users/

http://www.flickr.com/groups/d40slr/

Good Luck! :)
 
I own several Nikon DSLRs and I have to admit that my two favorites are the Nikon D60 (which some people have already reccommended to you) and the D300 (which is way out of the range of what you are looking for). The D60 though is a good start you may consider. It is reasonably fast, produces clean crisp shots and it a good transition point from a point and shot to a DSLR. Check out Costco for good deals, I got my D60 body the 18-55 (VR) and 55-200 (VR) bag and a 1GB SD card for $870 with tax, it was a pretty awesome price and that way you can try two different lens and decide what you like.

Also if you have not already checked out the pictures that a D60 can produce check out the flickr group to see peoples photos with a D60 (there is also a D40 and D40x pool so you can compare)

http://www.flickr.com/groups/nikond60users/

http://www.flickr.com/groups/d40slr/

Good Luck! :)

Thank you so much for the recommendation. I ended up borrowing a friend's D60 last night and taking some test shots. It was obvious I have no clue what I was doing (they didn't have their manual) but the pictures that they showed me along with the ones I just took on auto-mode I thought came out a bunch better than those with my point and shoot digital camera. I'm going to keep it over the weekend and play with it, see if I can find a manual online.

One quick question....the 55-200mm VR lens, do you think that this is a good choice of lens? If I do purchase either the D40 or D60, I am going to get the basic kit first and then hope to get another lens and that is the one I had been eyeing up. Thoughts?
Lastly, thank you so much for the link to flickr. I went on webshots and was trying to find pictures people had taken with a D40 and D60 since both are in my price range (although the D60 at the upper end of it) and the link you provided me is great. I love seeing the type of pictures everyone else has captured! :goodvibes

Ann
 

Thank you so much for the recommendation. I ended up borrowing a friend's D60 last night and taking some test shots. It was obvious I have no clue what I was doing (they didn't have their manual) but the pictures that they showed me along with the ones I just took on auto-mode I thought came out a bunch better than those with my point and shoot digital camera. I'm going to keep it over the weekend and play with it, see if I can find a manual online.

One quick question....the 55-200mm VR lens, do you think that this is a good choice of lens? If I do purchase either the D40 or D60, I am going to get the basic kit first and then hope to get another lens and that is the one I had been eyeing up. Thoughts?
Lastly, thank you so much for the link to flickr. I went on webshots and was trying to find pictures people had taken with a D40 and D60 since both are in my price range (although the D60 at the upper end of it) and the link you provided me is great. I love seeing the type of pictures everyone else has captured! :goodvibes

Ann

Link to D60 Users Manual.

The 55-200 is very good lens, especially for its price. It Pairs well with the 18-55mm kit lens. For longer reach and more money there is also the 70-300mm VR lens.
 
Here are a few thoughts from my recent experience. I was in a similar position a few weeks ago. I have used various PnS cameras (and a very old Oly film SLR) for many years, including an Oly 5060 underwater. However, I really wanted the extra speed, flexibility and low light performance of a DSLR (particularly for a trip to WDW). I may also house the camera for underwater use at some point.

My initial decision point was what lens system I wanted to go with, and which camera I felt most comfortable with. I eliminated Pentax, Sony etc because of the greater range of lenses available for Nikon and Canon, plus the greater choice of housings available for these brands if I took it underwater. When moving to a DSLR I believe I am buying into a lens system more than a specific camera body.

I tried a D40, D60, and D80, plus a Canon XSi in various photo shops, and preferred the controls and handling of the Nikons. I eliminated the D60 as it offered few additional features to the D40 (eg still had no focus motor in the body), but cost £100+ more than the D40 here in the UK. At this time the D90 was being launched, but at £800+ with a kit lens, was more than I was prepared to pay for a first DSLR. I discounted the D80, as, even though the prices were coming down, it still was not a cheap camera.

Finally I looked at the D40. Amazon had it for £220 with the 18-55 kit lens. For that price I could buy the kit, and still have enough to buy another decent lens (compared with the XSi or D80) . Also, as I had no legacy lenses, the absence of a focus motor on the camera was not an major issue. I intended that any future lenses I bought would have a focus motor and vibration reduction anyway. The megapixel count was a non-issue to me as the D40 has a good sensor, and I have previously enlarged 5mp shots from my Oly 5060 to a good size with no visible loss of quality.

So I now have the D40, and, for the price, I am very impressed. It is well built, the auto-focus and stabilisation works well, and, as far as I am concerned, it works very well in relatively low light, even with the kit lens. For the price of reasonable PnS, I have a camera that offers far better image quality (especially in low light) than any PnS or Bridge camera. In a year or two I may outgrow the camera body, but I will (hopefully) have learned how to use a DSLR effectively, and can re-use the lenses on any other digital Nikon body.
 












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