So the way that the "we need to post quotes" strategy works is that someone goes out and tries to find an example that may or may not be good and posts it. Then, several people jump on it to poke holes in it, and if moderately successful in doing that jump up and claim "see, the whole aurgument is invalid" because the example picked wasn't a good one. That avoidance approach and aurgument strategy won't negate the problems being described here.
The other aurgument approach we're hearing is to take points to the extreme to try to show they aren't valid -- nobody is calling for someone to apologize for every wrong they may have ever done. Calling it sanctimonious? Perhaps....
If a person decides the shoe fits regarding continually posting rude replies and being excessively and discourteously aurgumentative, and is willing to come forth and and offer to make a change, that's great. If they can't come forth in a public forum, but are still willing to commit to a higher level of civility, great.
This isn't a majority rules issue, this isn't a call that everyone must unanimously agree that this problem is occurring in every incidence that it is and that everyone must be able to cite every incident of it occurring (I know - probably falls in the taking to extreme category). This isn't a debate with a winning and a loosing side.
It's really quite simple, we have several individuals, even if they are in the minority, who are describing in the posts above that the absence of courtesy by a minor number of posters is causing them to avoid posting, to visit less often, and alienating them from participating in this
DVC community forum. Even if you don't personally see it, or you don't absolutely agree with these people; regardless if you want to call us whimps because we are describing to you that we feel this way, the reoccurring lack of civility is a problem for some of us.
Trying to deny that some people feel this way can no longer happen, people do feel that there is a lack of common courtesy. It is clearly communicated above by more than one person. There is a problem, and claiming denial doesn't alter that fact. Too many people are aggreeing and describing its negative effects.
Now that everyone who reads this is aware, whether they agree or not, should behavior that causes other people to feel this way continue? Why would anyone want to do that?
Posters must decide for themselves. Finger pointing by posting quotes attached to people's names goes against the level of courtesy that is being advocated here. If the shoe fits, decide for yourself to make a change, and avoid causing others these negative feelings. Why not? Why would anyone want to be the cause through thier behavior the negative consequences described above? What's the point? This isn't rocket science, lets agree to a high level of civility and common courtesy, and hold ourselves accountable. What is the purpose of aurguing against that?
Am I pontificating and going on too much? Sure I am, I'm not a very good poster and don't write very well, but is that really a valid reason not to agree to a higher level of courtesy and civility when posting here? Throwing stones at me won't negate the main issue.
Several people above are stating that escessive rudeness and discourtesy by a small minority of posters is a problem. Lets solve it.
