metalis4ever
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A statement on society today and misguided notions about minorities
After rereading the posts in this thread, I had some thoughts. The OP felt that an incident that took place at a Philadelphia high school should have been treated as a hate crime. The OP then insinuated that hate crime laws are only for the benefit of two privileged groups.
The OP is wrong in this assumption. The law is not limited to only two privileged groups. Furthermore, the OP is upset that the Philadelphia incident is not being treated as a hate crime. The OP's disgust in this is misguided. The incident happened last week. Ten students have been suspended from the school over the incident. The case has been turned over to the police for investigation. It is currently being investigated by the police. Nobody has said that these offenders will not be charged with a hate crime. Here is a quote from the Chief Inspector:
If theres an arrest for aggravated assault or assault and its determined its because of their nationality, that is a hate crime, said Chief Inspector James Tiano.
Perhaps the OP should learn how our legal system works before venting about injustices. Police investigate incidents first. They file charges after the investigation has been concluded. Currently, they have ten suspects, thirty victims, and many possible witnesses. Charges are not always filed the same day or the next day. The police may need some time to get their case together before filing charges. Personally, I believe it to be a hate crime and hope that they are charged with that. However, I am not about to bash the hate crime law before authorities have had a chance to finish their investigation.
Here is another assumption where the OP is incorrect...
The OP felt that only minorities were protected under this law. The OP also felt that everybody should be protected under this law. Well, guess what? Everybody is protected under this law. The OP requested proof that hate crimes were being prosecuted and convictions were made in hate crimes against whites. The OP felt that finding these cases would not be possible. A simple google search proved this assumption wrong.
Since posting the proof, the OP has mysteriously disappeared. No response. No humble apology, as promised. No acknowledgment that the OP's views may have been misguided. Nothing. The OP just abandoned the discussion once factual evidence was brought into it.
I then looked into another case where a different poster felt that a crime against a white person was unfairly, not charged as a hate crime. I explained the reasons why it is currently not being charged as a hate crime. The poster in this situation also did not bother to gather information about the case before voicing opinions. I tried clearing up the misconceptions by providing a link to the actual news story and presenting actual facts. The poster in this situation had the facts entirely wrong. They incorrectly tried to link two separate incidents into one, thinking that the same parties were present at both incidents. This was wrong. They also felt, based on information provided in a blog, not an actual news site, that there were witnesses that had come forward. This was wrong. I provided links and quotes to the poster correcting the inaccuracies in the statements. The poster, upset over facts being brought into the discussion called me aggressive and argumentative. I make no apologies for bringing forth evidence that counters inaccurate information.
What does this say about us as a society? I'm speaking of the attitudes of some posters on this thread. They are so quick to rally around a broad notion, no matter how misguided. Then, when facts and evidence are brought into the discussion, they scatter like mice when lights are shined upon them. The OP was all over this thread and then suddenly disappears when proven wrong. Another poster resorts to name calling when shown inaccuracies in statements about a news story. We, as a society need to learn a bit of humility. When we are wrong, we should be big enough to admit it. There is nothing wrong with an admission of fault. This is how we learn and grow as a people. This is how we open our minds to new possibilities. We cannot grow if we choose to see only what we want to and ignore the things which may not adhere to our preconceived notions. We all need to open our minds up to other viewpoints and possibilities if we wish to grow as a nation and truly all be created equal.
BRAVO!!!!!

