Isn't it interesting!

The difference in excitement or "buzz" is expected. For more than five years the Animal Kindom Lodge has hosted millions of Disney fans as guests, diners or mere curiousity seekers. And many have developed a fondness for the resort. It is tangible. It is real.

For the first six months the only thing tangible about Saratoga Springs was an overhead map (with 2/3 of the resort listed as "future development") and a couple of artist renderings of building exteriors. No great surprise that it didn't generate much excitement.

As for the tired old discussion of which resort is more popular, to each their own. Every discussion that ventures down this road is just a re-hash of people applying their own personal bias to the discussion. "I want to be near a park, ergo EVERYONE must want to be near a park." Pheh! :sad2:

Don't like SSR? Book your Home during your 4-month priority (which is all you were ever guaranteed from Day One) and all is well. :wizard:
 
< sigh >


SSR is a great resort.

Maybe someday I'll somehow be able to snag a room there at 6mths, 28 days.

Maybe.

wish me luck.
 
< sigh >


SSR is a great resort.

Maybe someday I'll somehow be able to snag a room there at 6mths, 28 days.

Maybe.

wish me luck.
You can now much of the year through Interval for a 1 BR or studio.
 
I was under the impression that trading INTO a DVC via Interval was next to impossible. Can you use Interval to get into all the DVC resorts, with ease?
 

dvcjim, you do probably have a better chance at that than you do at the 11 month window at either BC,BW. I think there's already a post " you snooze you loose" How disappointing it must be to try and book your vacation with your fingers crossed hoping its available.
 
dvcjim, you do probably have a better chance at that than you do at the 11 month window at either BC,BW. I think there's already a post " you snooze you loose" How disappointing it must be to try and book your vacation with your fingers crossed hoping its available.

And yet that's the system we all bought into. The only people competing for rooms at BCV 11 months out are BCV owners. The number of rooms determines the number of points. The number of points (indirectly) determines the number of owners. If demand is such that more people want to use their points than there are rooms available, some will be disappointed.

Personally I hope DVC will look at reorganizing the point charts to reflect the demand for December reservations. Dec 1-14 no longer deserves to be part of the lowest season in the year. But that's a discussion for another thread.
 
TJ the rub is that when folks bought BC/BW/WL they assumed that future DVC's would be built in locations that would make them on par with the "little 3". Why wouldn't someone assume that? Why would you assume that furture DVC would be NOTHING like the one you just bought?

So that if a BW owner couldn't get into the BW at 5 mths, they could stay at the BC or WL or the brand new DVC called XXX which was right outside of Animal Kingdom, or the DVC built 2 years ago called YYY that was a monorail ride away from MK.

But what happened was that now if you are unable to plan until 3 mths in advance, the DVC you are left with is a MEGA resort, near no park.

Heck, if someone wanted to be a 20 min car ride or a bus ride away from the parks, why would they pay the Premuim price for DVC? Many other time shares in Orlando have nicer rooms, and are much cheaper in cost.

DVC is sold with the concept of being in the "loop" of the parks.

But as I have stated before SSR is a wonderful place, the resort is great, the owners are tremendous people. But quite simply, SSR does not = BW/BC/VW, yet SSR is marketed with the concept of using the SSR points to stay at those other resorts.
 
The difference in excitement or "buzz" is expected. For more than five years the Animal Kindom Lodge has hosted millions of Disney fans as guests, diners or mere curiousity seekers. And many have developed a fondness for the resort. It is tangible. It is real.

For the first six months the only thing tangible about Saratoga Springs was an overhead map (with 2/3 of the resort listed as "future development") and a couple of artist renderings of building exteriors. No great surprise that it didn't generate much excitement.

As for the tired old discussion of which resort is more popular, to each their own. Every discussion that ventures down this road is just a re-hash of people applying their own personal bias to the discussion. "I want to be near a park, ergo EVERYONE must want to be near a park." Pheh! :sad2:

Don't like SSR? Book your Home during your 4-month priority (which is all you were ever guaranteed from Day One) and all is well. :wizard:

I think your assessment of the situation is probably more on target than any I have ever read.

The "buzz" surrounding AKV is certainly very strong, and, in truth, probably much stronger than was ever surrounding SSR. Before I receive flames from all SSR owners, please note that I just did an add on at SSR knowing that AKV was approved and would be selling before I even closed on my SSR contract. There is a distinct difference in the "buzz" surrounding a resort and someone's "love" of a resort. My guess would be that most OKW owners did not buy there because of its close proximity to the parks or even because it is close to DTD, but because of other personal reasons such as it was the only one selling, room sizes are HUGE, or because they wanted a more "resort" feel than a hotel atmosphere. There are lots of reasons that someone would choose any of the wonderful DVC resorts.

As for the "buzz", I don't foresee it going away any time real soon...as tjkraz stated the Animal Kingdom Lodge has a following. Let's face it, it is the only resort at WDW that offers the "animal view" rather than just pool, woods, etc.
 
WHOA!!! I did NOT want this to be construed as an SSR bashing thread! I wanted only to point out that I think DVC did their homework on this one and did what members wanted rather than what was convenient.


I agree and was thinking the same thing. The last "buzz" like this was when the BCV went on sale and I'm not even sure it was as big. The sheer number of threads and excitement displayed in them is quite amazing.

The next "buzz" will be when the Contemporary DVC goes on sale.;)

HBC

Yes, I agree. Even though CRV would not be my dream, I know it is the dream of a lot of folks here.
 
I don't agree with the marketing scheme, we purchased 300 points at SSR and just added 150 for AKL, We chose SSR for SSR and AKL for AKL.For the amount of money we paid for SSR we could have purchased a sizable resale for BC or BW, But we didn't want to!!! To each is own as to their choice of resorts. Good luck with those ressies and the 45 minute wait to get a hamburger at Beaches and creams.
 
Good luck with those ressies and the 45 minute wait to get a hamburger at Beaches and creams.

Can you believe that in December we had NO WAIT at Beaches and Cream? We were seated right away. I almost passed out from the shock.
 
There is a buzz here about AKV but on the resort board AKL has a reputation of love it or hate it kind of resort. Some people complain about the remote location, not near a park , dark rooms not enough restaurants etc. And yet some love it. I am a big fan of AKL so I can't wait to stay there! I will be happy to stay at any DVC. They all have different qualities and atmospheres. My mom always said "you can please some of the people some of the time but you can't please all of the people all of the time". That is what is so great about DVC, we have a so many choices.
 
TJ the rub is that when folks bought BC/BW/WL they assumed that future DVC's would be built in locations that would make them on par with the "little 3". Why wouldn't someone assume that? Why would you assume that furture DVC would be NOTHING like the one you just bought?


We've seen this type of post many times from a couple of individuals who used to frequent these boards.

To comment on your question, why would anyone assume that DVC would never do another large stand alone resort like OKW again. I think if folks assumed that all future DVCs would be like the "little 3" that assumption would be very foolish since there are a very limited amount of sites for this to even be possible.
 
That is the rub.

The largest resort, and it's the least popular.

Obvioulsy that will strain the system.

DVC needs to come up with something on site at SSR that makes it stand out. DD simply doesn't do it.
And the disontinuing of the midnight fireworks at PI doesn't help. I seem to remember that DVC was planning on building a viewing place so that people could watch those fireworks.
 
Least favorite, no interest, based on what. The opinion of this forum.:confused3

While I certainly enjoy this forum as much as anyone, surely no one thinks it is the end all to DVC and it's members. There are literally thousands of members that have never even visited this forum or know of it.

I was really hoping that we had moved on from putting SSR down. I guess not. :sad2:
 
TJ the rub is that when folks bought BC/BW/WL they assumed that future DVC's would be built in locations that would make them on par with the "little 3". Why wouldn't someone assume that? Why would you assume that furture DVC would be NOTHING like the one you just bought?

I can think of at least three reasons: Old Key West, Vero Beach and Hilton Head Island.

In fact, let's break this down a little further:

BWV Owners: When BWV was first offered, the DVC inventory included OKW, Vero, HHI and BWV. Seems like BWV owners should have known exactly what they were getting into. Their resort was the only one out of FOUR existing DVC properties within walking distance of a theme park.

VWL: Perhaps the only group with any room to complain by your standards.

BCV: During most of the period while BCV points were for sale, plans for SSR and even Eagle Pines were public knowledge. These folks were (or should have been) well aware of the plans to build resorts in another location.

And everyone who has bought via resale over the last 4+ years has known exactly what DVC had in store.

So that if a BW owner couldn't get into the BW at 5 mths, they could stay at the BC or WL or the brand new DVC called XXX which was right outside of Animal Kingdom, or the DVC built 2 years ago called YYY that was a monorail ride away from MK.

And we all know what happens when one makes assumptions.

I'm also unclear as to why AKV falls into your desired category. You are aware that you can't walk or take a boat from AKV to the park, right? How does the bus travel distance from AKV to AK compare with OKW/SSR to Epcot?

But what happened was that now if you are unable to plan until 3 mths in advance, the DVC you are left with is a MEGA resort, near no park.

And before SSR, OKW was the only resort consistently available 3 months out.

Heck, if someone wanted to be a 20 min car ride or a bus ride away from the parks, why would they pay the Premuim price for DVC? Many other time shares in Orlando have nicer rooms, and are much cheaper in cost.

You do know that SSR is about 2 min up the road from OKW, right?!?! Sorry, but I'm not even going to dignify the implication that SSR's location is sub-standard when its entrance is 1/4 mile up the road from the flagship DVC property.

And speaking as someone who tends to make his way to Downtown Disney on about 75% of the nights during our trip, being 10 minutes from DTD is just as valuable--perhaps moreso--as being within walking distance of a theme park.

DVC is sold with the concept of being in the "loop" of the parks.

I'm sensing that personal bias again, here. To YOU that may be true...

But as I have stated before SSR is a wonderful place, the resort is great, the owners are tremendous people. But quite simply, SSR does not = BW/BC/VW, yet SSR is marketed with the concept of using the SSR points to stay at those other resorts.

And the same is true of all of the resorts since OKW. DVC's marketing has always placed an emphasis on the entire program. All we were ever promised is a set of points each year and a 4-month priority to book at Home (subject to availablility, and the Christmas '07 reservations are demonstrating how even that is not sufficient at times.)

Here's the problem I have with your mindset, Jim. You've made it clear that you believe that the deciding factor in resort choice for all DVC members is location. I'm here to tell you (as will THOUSANDS of others if you choose to listen) that is simply not true.

Which resort is actually the "most popular"? Heck, I don't know any more than you do. And even if people can't get into the "most popular" resort one year out of fifty, I don't see many people crying in their soup about it. It's the nature of the beast.

Yes, BCV, BWV and VWL will fill up quicker than SSR. Consistently. But SSR is SIX TIMES as large as VWL!!! If SSR is 75% booked at 7 months for any given date, it still has 200+ rooms open to non-members. If VWL is 75% booked for the same date, it has about 35 rooms available to non-members. It doesn't take a math wiz to figure out that those 35 rooms will be booked before the 200+ at SSR.

If SSR isn't your favorite, so be it. Do what you know to be necessary to make sure you book before that is the only option. Your attempts to generalize the likes and dislikes of 100,000+ members just come across as sour grapes.
 
Being able to walk to a park, or take a 5 min boat ride is something that the vast majority of DVC owners want.

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It is? wow-I must have missed that survey. How sad...:sad2:
 















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