Disdreaming479
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Absolutely. And besides, we’re on Disney property, I wanna see Disney. You ask most people what they associate the word ‘Disney’ with and 10 times out of 10 it’s going to be the movies. Why do we vilify IP from the movies when that literally is Disney.this debate about DVC/Disney putting too much IP into some of their resorts is nonsense. When done tastefully with classic movies and characters, it’ll always be a hit. The classics like Mary Poppins, Lion King, Moana, Little Mermaid, Aladdin, Frozen, Snow White, etc will never go out of style in a hotel/DVC room…as long as you do it tastefully.
What they did jamming the incredibles into the Contemporary was the exact opposite of tasteful. It was more along the lines of the Value Resort themes.
Ah yes, the Nordic Riviera!With direct walkway to Riviera!
Then subtly introduce Frozen elements into next Riv refurb.
Some fun with the numbers. Might help on guesses for point charts. Using numbers from his article plus my own phone call.
@pkrieger2287
Dec 17
If I have the discount (25%) right, crazy that a duo theme park view room appears to be more than a longhouse deluxe studio lake view. I realize it is higher up and will not have its view blocked, but surprises me.
- PVB longhouse SV studio shows as $1238.63 on WDW website( without DVC discount), so I think it would be roughly $929 for that night.
- PVB longhouse LV studio $1505.25 (without DVC discount). Using 25% discount would be $1128.75
- Tower Duo Standard view $696.94
- Tower Duo Theme Park view $1159.88
- Tower Deluxe studio view $1271.54
- Tower 1BR standard view $1346.63
- Tower 2BR penthouse theme park view $5024.25
Room | Nightly | Points | ||
Longhouse SV | $929 | 14 | $ 66.36 | /pp |
Longhouse LV | $1,129 | 19 | $ 59.41 | /pp |
Avg | $ 62.88 | /pp | ||
Tower duo SV | $697 | 11 | points | |
Tower duo TPV | $1,159 | 18 | points | |
Tower Deluxe SV | $1,271 | 20 | points | |
Tower 1BR SV | $1,346 | 21 | points | |
Tower 2BR TPV | $5,024 | 80 | points |
If they would just take my brilliant idea to build Disney’s Winter Kingdom outside of Buffalo we could have an Arendelle castle AND a Frozen hotel. The snow would be a bonus! Adds realism!Now, what likely hotel theme could we shoehorn- er, lovingly integrate Frozen into![]()
Flipping that back to points if points & price are the same approximate ratio:
Tower duo SV - 11 pts
Tower duo TPV - 18 pts
Tower Deluxe SV - 20 pts
Tower 1BR SV - 21 pts
Tower 2BR Penthouse TPV - 80 pts
Ratios seem a bit off from usual, especially the 1BR vs Tower Deluxe SV, but that's approximately what those dollar amounts would suggest given 14 points longhouse at $929/night and 19 points longhouse LV at $1128/night.
Yep, definitely agree there. Was just strictly going off of the ratio/cost per point.I don’t think you are going to see the 1 bedrooms that low because the cash side doesn’t price them the same way points are done.
I expect the 1 bedrooms and larger to be on par with RIV and VGF.
It's "Architectural Digest" meets "Flaming Shots" ... I just want to be there when the first person stumbles out of Trader Sam's and pulls a Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas in that pristine lobby.Ultimately the rooms are nice. I don't love the colour palette but their layout is considered and they seem higher end.
What I don't connect with is that the rooms don't feel like Disney. There is nothing in here that connects with the original Polynesian. This seems to create an identity crisis for resort. One half wants to go in the authentic celebratory Aulani direction, other half makes a joke of it with kitsch.
Exactly!Absolutely. And besides, we’re on Disney property, I wanna see Disney. You ask most people what they associate the word ‘Disney’ with and 10 times out of 10 it’s going to be the movies. Why do we vilify IP from the movies when that literally is Disney.
if they ever do expand the RIV area by taking some of Caribbean beach, then I hope they turn it into an Aegean themed hotel with some Hercules and/or Aladdin IP pumped into it with greek and middle eastern inspired restaurants.Ah yes, the Nordic Riviera!
Lol I've heard worse ideas![]()
Wow. Seeing the cash rates and points side by side really brings home why many people like to rent points at $20/pt or so.Flipping that back to points if points & price are the same approximate ratio.
Ratios seem a bit off from usual, especially the 1BR vs Tower Deluxe SV, but that's approximately what those dollar amounts would suggest given 14 points longhouse at $929/night and 19 points longhouse LV at $1128/night.
Room Nightly Points Longhouse SV $929 14$ 66.36 /pp Longhouse LV $1,129 19$ 59.41 /pp Avg $ 62.88 /pp Tower duo SV $697 11points Tower duo TPV $1,159 18points Tower Deluxe SV $1,271 20points Tower 1BR SV $1,346 21points Tower 2BR TPV $5,024 80points
I admit my view goes against the grain for how most view the Poly. With Disney, there is a resort for everyone’s tastes. But if we are talking transportation, it was a real failure for us when we stayed there, just google monorail breakdown on Sept 20, 2019 and it will become clearer. There were other issues too which admittedly tainted my view of the resort overall. That being said, we love all the resorts but the Poly, due to that particular stay, will remain at the bottom of our list. I do love the interior designs of the new tower which does give me pauseI always find this take fascinating when we have DVC resorts that have 7 bus stops with few amenities and practically no theming at all.
But carry on.
Yep, definitely agree there. Was just strictly going off of the ratio/cost per point.
Could also be that they are wanting to give people a taste of the 1BRs to get them addicted and are discounting them accordingly.
ETA: I'm also really happy to have a small dishwasher and real dishes in a studio.
Those 1BRs will be half the points of the 2BR. The 1BRs everywhere are wildly overpriced on points, as evidenced by the prices they charge in cash.Flipping that back to points if points & price are the same approximate ratio.
Ratios seem a bit off from usual, especially the 1BR vs Tower Deluxe SV, but that's approximately what those dollar amounts would suggest given 14 points longhouse at $929/night and 19 points longhouse LV at $1128/night.
Room Nightly Points Longhouse SV $929 14$ 66.36 /pp Longhouse LV $1,129 19$ 59.41 /pp Avg $ 62.88 /pp Tower duo SV $697 11points Tower duo TPV $1,159 18points Tower Deluxe SV $1,271 20points Tower 1BR SV $1,346 21points Tower 2BR TPV $5,024 80points
So what’s the point guess on the Penthouses?Those 1BRs will be half the points of the 2BR. The 1BRs everywhere are wildly overpriced on points, as evidenced by the prices they charge in cash.