Island Tower at Polynesian Villas & Bungalows

[maui22]

Any news yet about when the new tower will begin selling?
(This thread had a lot of random discussions I was scrolling through but didn't see anything)

I feel like if it's opening in December, maybe disney is just going to let cash reservations happen for a while before allowing points to be sold? We're already under 7-months from when building is slated to open.

At this point, we are still waiting for the master declaration to show up on the county comptroller website.
Here is the order of the remaining steps we are waiting for.

1. Master declaration to show up on the county comptroller website.
2. Sales information has been released in the past. (number of days/weeks vary).
3. Sales begin to existing members.
4. Sales to new members.

Starting with VGF (original), we know the timelines for the resorts. Only resort that hasn't seen the master declaration happen more than 140 days prior to opening was the original PVB.

Here are the two that had the shortest window for the master declaration to opening.

	CCV	PVB
Master Declaration on the county comptroller website	146 days before resort opened If IT were to match this ...July 24 (which is in the rear view mirror)	84 days before resort opened If IT were to match this...September 24
Sale Information Released	138 days before resort opened If IT were to match this...August 1	83 days before resort opened 84 days before resort opened If IT were to match this...September 25
Sales to Existing Members Begin	131 days before resort opened If IT were to match this...August 8	79 days before resort opened 84 days before resort opened If IT were to match this...September 29
Sales to New Members Begin	103 days before resort opened If IT were to match this...September 5	51 days before resort opened 84 days before resort opened If IT were to match this...October 27

As you mention, cash bookings could be used for a number of days/weeks so sales could be delayed.

Some believe October 1 will be the start of sales.
Others point out, DVC changed past policy with CFW of waiting for one promotion to end before starting the next sales. For Disney the period they allow someone to cancel a purchase and change to a new resort means wasted work and pencil pushing.

Reality is only a handful of people at Disney truly know what their plans are. Even then, plans can and do change.

 

[hockeydad21]

https://wdwnt.com/2024/07/disneys-c...g-wristbands-to-enjoy-fuentes-del-morro-pool/

I loved reading this! I really hope this test environment will prove effective, and they’ll roll it out to all resorts, or at the very least deluxe resorts (especially Poly!).

 

[kilik64]

https://wdwnt.com/2024/07/disneys-c...g-wristbands-to-enjoy-fuentes-del-morro-pool/

I loved reading this! I really hope this test environment will prove effective, and they’ll roll it out to all resorts, or at the very least deluxe resorts (especially Poly!).

Isnt this what they do at storm along bay already? I know when we went during march in 22 you had to get a wrist band from lifeguard to be let in.

 

[crvetter]

Isnt this what they do at storm along bay already? I know when we went during march in 22 you had to get a wrist band from lifeguard to be let in.

SAB has been doing this for years. VGC at Disneyland will do this too depending on the time of year.

I heard reports that VDH does this too occasionally at Disneyland too.

It is needed at Riviera the amount of people I saw get on the skyliner (leaving the pool) with towels and suits during my June trip was quite high. At least 10-15 people a day I saw but could have also been the same people.

 

[CWTC]

It is needed at Riviera the amount of people I saw get on the skyliner (leaving the pool) with towels and suits during my June trip was quite high. At least 10-15 people a day I saw but could have also been the same people.

It’s needed at the GF too - we were there in early May and it was hard to find any place to sit even on a week day. Maybe they were all GF guests but boy it seemed crowded.

 

[hockeydad21]

It should honestly be done across all resorts’ main pool. I doubt it would be that difficult/expensive to station a booth where you scan in at the entrance to each main pool. No need for paper wrist bands, but every time you enter, a cast member scans you in with your magic band to validate you have a current reservation at X resort.

 

[Sandisw]

https://wdwnt.com/2024/07/disneys-c...g-wristbands-to-enjoy-fuentes-del-morro-pool/

I loved reading this! I really hope this test environment will prove effective, and they’ll roll it out to all resorts, or at the very least deluxe resorts (especially Poly!).

I was just there. The CM is there checking until 5 pm each day. She said it was being started slowly at moderate pools that don’t have the MB gate to scan.

Did not know if it would be implemented at other pools that do as I asked both her and front desk people.

At RIV, the CMs had not heard anything different happening there at this time because they have the locking gates.

 

[Salokin]

I was just there. The CM is there checking until 5 pm each day. She said it was being started slowly at moderate pools that don’t have the MB gate to scan.

Did not know if it would be implemented at other pools that do as I asked both her and front desk people.

At RIV, the CMs had not heard anything different happening there at this time because they have the locking gates.

Where you can just tailgate a guest a la at the village, nowhere near as effective as SAB where you have to sneak the whole family in (granny included) via the big slide.

 

[Sandisw]

Where you can just tailgate a guest a la at the village, nowhere near as effective as SAB where you have to sneak the whole family in (granny included) via the big slide.

Absolutely. I hope all pools do in fact implement wristbands.

 

[Stormalong Smiths]

Absolutely. I hope all pools do in fact implement wristbands.

Thank you for reporting back, Sandi!

 

[🍀TwinsMom]

I hope all the pools, no matter deluxe/DVC or not, implement the wristbands and don't just rely on Magic Bands. Every single FB group or DVC chat seems to have folks parking at Springs and using Saratoga pools, folks crashing Riviera's pools (not sure why, they're not super amazing by any stretch,) and Caribbean Beach's pool has always been a standout. I'm nervous about the never-ending chorus of how packed Poly pools and beaches are already, and hearing about folks dumping off the TTC/monorail in beach clothes to follow folks through the gate is not cool. Also read about folks throwing birthday parties at the Kidani/Jambo pools and staying off site.

Up until this summer, I NEVER heard of incidents like this. SAB was always known to be its own entity, which is totally fair. Heck, even Aulani seems to be overrun.

Bring on date-based, color-coded bands for the pools. Works for me!

 

[SugarSweetLee]

...hearing about folks dumping off the TTC/monorail in beach clothes to follow folks through the gate is not cool.

Also read about folks throwing birthday parties at the Kidani/Jambo pools and staying off site.

This is bananas to me.

Also the following through the gate thing is such an awkward position to have legit guests be put in.

 

[intamin]

I hope all the pools, no matter deluxe/DVC or not, implement the wristbands and don't just rely on Magic Bands. Every single FB group or DVC chat seems to have folks parking at Springs and using Saratoga pools, folks crashing Riviera's pools (not sure why, they're not super amazing by any stretch,) and Caribbean Beach's pool has always been a standout. I'm nervous about the never-ending chorus of how packed Poly pools and beaches are already, and hearing about folks dumping off the TTC/monorail in beach clothes to follow folks through the gate is not cool. Also read about folks throwing birthday parties at the Kidani/Jambo pools and staying off site.

Up until this summer, I NEVER heard of incidents like this. SAB was always known to be its own entity, which is totally fair. Heck, even Aulani seems to be overrun.

Bring on date-based, color-coded bands for the pools. Works for me!

Sadly this is what it's come to and unfortunately I do think it is necessary at the very least for resorts that are easily accessible to guests not staying on property.

 

[hockeydad21]

I hope all the pools, no matter deluxe/DVC or not, implement the wristbands and don't just rely on Magic Bands. Every single FB group or DVC chat seems to have folks parking at Springs and using Saratoga pools, folks crashing Riviera's pools (not sure why, they're not super amazing by any stretch,) and Caribbean Beach's pool has always been a standout. I'm nervous about the never-ending chorus of how packed Poly pools and beaches are already, and hearing about folks dumping off the TTC/monorail in beach clothes to follow folks through the gate is not cool. Also read about folks throwing birthday parties at the Kidani/Jambo pools and staying off site.

Up until this summer, I NEVER heard of incidents like this. SAB was always known to be its own entity, which is totally fair. Heck, even Aulani seems to be overrun.

Bring on date-based, color-coded bands for the pools. Works for me!

I’ll never forget when a good friend of mine bragged to me a few years ago about how him and his extended family of like 8 snuck into AKL’s Uzima Springs pool after having lunch reservations at Boma. I made it pretty clear how I thought that was wrong, but he brushed it off acting like ‘what’s the big deal - it’s only 8 people.’ Meanwhile he doesn’t realize if 5+ families do this every day, you’re looking at a pretty significant increase of people at the pools.

 

[GADisneyDad14]

Apologies if I got behind on this, but have we noted Disney added view descriptions to the Poly website?

Standard View - “Views of Parking Area”
Preferred View - “Views of Pool or Golf Course”
Theme Park View - “Views of Magic Kingdom Park and Seven Seas Lagoon”

I think that’s what we all assumed and/or already knew, but nice to see it in writing.

 

[atthebeachclub]

I’ll never forget when a good friend of mine bragged to me a few years ago about how him and his extended family of like 8 snuck into AKL’s Uzima Springs pool after having lunch reservations at Boma. I made it pretty clear how I thought that was wrong, but he brushed it off acting like ‘what’s the big deal - it’s only 8 people.’ Meanwhile he doesn’t realize if 5+ families do this every day, you’re looking at a pretty significant increase of people at the pools.

Not to mention the liability…

 

[HyperspaceMountainPilot]

Apologies if I got behind on this, but have we noted Disney added view descriptions to the Poly website?

Standard View - “Views of Parking Area”
Preferred View - “Views of Pool or Golf Course”
Theme Park View - “Views of Magic Kingdom Park and Seven Seas Lagoon”

I think that’s what we all assumed and/or already knew, but nice to see it in writing.

I’m not sure that is what many people have prepared themselves for— looks like basically everything on the lagoon side higher than the 3rd (?) floor with even a glimpse of park across the lagoon is going to be TPV, and the point chart will reflect it.

Looks like there will be 2-3 floors of Standard on one side of the building and then preferred view the rest of that side, and 2-3 floors of preferred view over the pool that will probably be extremely competitive, and then 40% of the tower is TPV, is that what we’re all thinking now?

 

[Salokin]

I’m not sure that is what many people have prepared themselves for— looks like basically everything on the lagoon side higher than the 3rd (?) floor with even a glimpse of park across the lagoon is going to be TPV, and the point chart will reflect it.

Looks like there will be 2-3 floors of Standard on one side of the building and then preferred view the rest of that side, and 2-3 floors of preferred view over the pool that will probably be extremely competitive, and then 40% of the tower is TPV, is that what we’re all thinking now?

What floor do rooms start on? I imagine most of 1st (ground to us brits) will be amenities, I’d be surprised if there were any non TPV rooms lagoon side (may have to crank your neck at times to see!)

Preferred view will be like BWV right with golf and pool the equivalent of garden and pool ie won’t be able to book separately, just request?

 

[davidhr]

At this rate we might get info first about CCV2/Reflections than any new info for the the tower

 

[mkatsy]

Unless someone with direct knowledge of the comptroller or Disney filing dates, I'm not sure we know the answer.

Riviera makes me think it takes just a couple/few days. However, many things can happen. Paperwork gets temporarily lost, someone gets sick, someone has a child so the comptroller could be understaffed, holidays, etc. Just from my memories of tracking actual sales data many years ago, I would see periods where gaps happened and I could never tell why. At one point, I tracked the signing dates for the deeds and the dates they showed up on the county website. The worst one I recall was a 6 month delay from the date the person signed until the date it showed up on the comptroller website.

Here is an example of Riviera. The Master Declaration "First Amendment" shows a date of October 4, 2019 was written in. That appears to be the date everyone signed off on it. The document showed up on the comptroller website on October 7, 2019. From that date forward, I believe all future declarations showed the "First Amendment" with a date of October 7, 2019.

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Somebody is going to be cleaning their car and stumble across the paperwork … oops, forgot to submit this